Kack Zassian Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Florida Mason Raymond 2nd Round Pick Vancouver Mike Weaver Marcel Goc Gives us a very high end 3rd line center, and a very underrated shutdown defenseman who had ridiculous success with Jason Garrison in the past. Hansen Goc Higgins <-- uber checking line Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Tanev Garrison Weaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 i dont mind it, but seems like we are giving up quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 No. We have too many D as is, and Weaver used to play for us already. We didn't sign Garrison to use him strictly in a shutdown role and pair him with a guy who won't do much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Getting rid of mayray won't help us IMO. Fair trade tho value wise ... I just wouldn't do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 No. We have too many D as is, and Weaver used to play for us already. We didn't sign Garrison to use him strictly in a shutdown role and pair him with a guy who won't do much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 i dont mind it, but seems like we are giving up quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How the west was won Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 No. We have too many D as is, and Weaver used to play for us already. We didn't sign Garrison to use him strictly in a shutdown role and pair him with a guy who won't do much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nah. We need to keep Raymond and no real need for Weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nah. We need to keep Raymond and no real need for Weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Nah. We need to keep Raymond and no real need for Weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf smell Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Sounds decent, now if only we could get a goalie an return to finish it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 In all fairness, if we bring in Goc (and assumingly move Schroeder to wing) Sedin Sedin Kesler Booth Kesler Schroeder Hansen Goc Higgins Kassian Lapierre Weise/Pinnizzotto doesn't leave a whole lot of room for Raymond (and he is a relatively expendable piece for us with some decent trade value). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 9, 2013 Author Share Posted March 9, 2013 Raymond is too important IMO, one of the few players providing secondary scoring. Weaver isn't really a need, maybe next year but there will be other options. Garrison has looked fine on the right side so far so we can just leave him there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 * Meant Burrows on the top line, not Kesler - I don't know if I agree that Raymond is too important. He has looked good this season... but Marcel Goc is the closest thing to 2009-2010 Manny Malhotra around. - Weaver gives us a guy who we know would fit into the lineup in at least 1 combination. I think its a foregone conclusion that Ballard is on his way out by next year. So we bring in a guy who can log heavy minutes when needed to, but is priced as a 3rd pairing guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 We would then have to move Ballard, and Raymond once again is providing secondary offense. Maybe Raymond for Goc one for one, but I am also not keen on giving up our 2nd as this draft is so deep, and I don't think Weaver is worth the 2nd. I would consider Raymond for Goc, but seeing as we are already struggling to score goals, trading away our 2nd leading scorer wouldn't solve our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Were on pace for 15 less goals this year than we were last year (which a healthy Kesler more than accounts for). I think with the emergence of Schroeder, and Jensen making noise (and Kassian looking for a bigger role) we have the pieces available to make Raymond expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted March 11, 2013 Author Share Posted March 11, 2013 I wouldn't go that far, Schroeder though impressive hasn't produced all that much, Jensen had a great year in the SEL but isn't ready to jump in and be a major contributor, and unless he shows that he is in the AHL then we shouldn't even bother calling him up (so far he has had 1 uneventful game) Kassian could maybe supply some of that but with the way Raymond is playing I don't think he covers it completely. Plus from there perspective Raymond is an upcoming UFA so he really doesn't add anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 I don't think any of these guys 100% substitute for Raymond. I feel like Gocs heavy lifting ability down the middle is more of a need than Raymonds secondary offense. I would rather see Schroeder take over for Raymond than see Lapierre take over for Manny Malhotra (2009-2010 version). (Hope that makes sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 At this point, all I care about is that they pull off a trade so shake things up a little. The team is lost right now.... though we do seem to go through this for a spell every year. This year we may not have the time to pull our socks back up. Florida has sucky goaltening, and Markstrom doesn't appear to be ready for primetime... so maybe they could still be interested in Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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