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#61 MoneypuckOverlord

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:22 PM

The way I see it: Samuelsson > Booth

1st > Ballard. Plus the possibility of Grabner staying.

Doesn't matter what Florida did with what they got, just matters what we gave up.


The thing is right now even Samuelsson is not playing. He is on injured reserves but I really don't think he's injured.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:22 PM

Didn't no Joker was hanging out in Vancity.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:25 PM

Luongo and a 1st for Versteeg and Campbell. Ship Ballard and a pick out for Talbot. Booth and a 4th for Jagr

Sedin - Sedin - Jagr
Burrows - Kesler - Versteeg
Higgins - Raymond - Hansen
Lapierre - Talbot - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Garrison - Campbell
Edler - Tanev

Schneider

Not sure if thats cap friendly I just quickly came up with that idea
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:26 PM

Here, I'm taking a stab at it:

To Vancouver:
Brian Campbell
2nd Round Pick

To Florida:
Schneider
2nd Round Pick

Vancouver gets Garrison's d-man partner from Florida. This is a pair that has proven it works, and works extremely well on the PP. We need help!
Florida gets a bonafide #1 goalie. Clearly they need a goalie down there.
2nd round pick swaps balances the deal. We get a 2nd rounder in the 31-35 range, and they get ours in the 45-55 range.

THEN

To Vancouver:
Patrik Berglund

To St. Louis:
Alex Edler

Vancouver gets their 2C/3C centre. Good size, great skill, will help tremendously.
St Louis gets their top pairing, left handed defenceman to play with Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Berglund-Kassian
Raymond-Kesler-Hansen
Higgens-Lapierre-Weise/Sestito

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Campbell-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev

Luongo
backup?

you made a separate topic as well, why?
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:29 PM

When I moved from Winnipeg to Van in January it seemed like it? :rolleyes:

Vancouver = Northern Florida soon.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:36 PM

Here, I'm taking a stab at it:

To Vancouver:
Brian Campbell
2nd Round Pick

To Florida:
Schneider
2nd Round Pick

Vancouver gets Garrison's d-man partner from Florida. This is a pair that has proven it works, and works extremely well on the PP. We need help!
Florida gets a bonafide #1 goalie. Clearly they need a goalie down there.
2nd round pick swaps balances the deal. We get a 2nd rounder in the 31-35 range, and they get ours in the 45-55 range.

THEN

To Vancouver:
Patrik Berglund

To St. Louis:
Alex Edler

Vancouver gets their 2C/3C centre. Good size, great skill, will help tremendously.
St Louis gets their top pairing, left handed defenceman to play with Pietrangelo or Shattenkirk.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Berglund-Kassian
Raymond-Kesler-Hansen
Higgens-Lapierre-Weise/Sestito

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Campbell-Garrison
Ballard-Tanev

Luongo
backup?


We still need Clemmensen or Theodore from FL. All and all this would increase our cap hit by around $3M this year and $1.5M from losing Edler's pay raise.

Gutsy big bold moves but I actually like them. The only problem is we lose a lot of size on our D, which is below average in size already.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:48 PM

I doubt it fits; but had me ::D pretty quick.

Awesome line up!

Luongo and a 1st for Versteeg and Campbell. Ship Ballard and a pick out for Talbot. Booth and a 4th for Jagr

Sedin - Sedin - Jagr
Burrows - Kesler - Versteeg
Higgins - Raymond - Hansen
Lapierre - Talbot - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Garrison - Campbell
Edler - Tanev

Schneider

Not sure if thats cap friendly I just quickly came up with that idea


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:52 PM

Any deal we make with Florida should include a trade-back clause ;)
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 01:53 PM

If you think Gudbranson is better than Tanev right NOW, then check yourself into your local insane asylum. Tell the Joker I said hi.


The fact that you believe The Joker is a real person is laughable, just like your belief that Tanev is better than Gudbranson, now or in the future.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:06 PM

C'mon Tallon, be an idiot and let Huberdeau go. It would give us one big piece we're missing. markstrom clearly isn't ready for prime time.

Luongo + prospect and pick

for

Huberdeau

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:10 PM

Love to get Brian Campbell, a pucking mover and a #1 D. He'll help out our powerplay tremendously Sedin Sedin Kesler Campbell Edler
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:18 PM

I would trade Schneider in a heart beat for Bjugstad I don't think he is an untouchable
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

Luongo, Edler for Campbell, Versteeg
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

Campbell is the worst defensive dman in the league. For a team struggling in their own end how can you people want this guy?
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

The fact that you believe The Joker is a real person is laughable, just like your belief that Tanev is better than Gudbranson, now or in the future.


You're delusional. Tanev has moved up to the top-4 pairing and has been the best d-man on our team night after night. Gudbranson isn't even good enough to stay on the panthers full time lol. Give your head a shake you scrub haha.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

goc is a really good faceoff player
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

Luongo
Schroeder
Edler

Mattias
Gudbranson
Versteeg

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Versteeg
Hansen Mattias Kassian
Higgins Lapierre Vestito/Weise

Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Gudbranson
Ballard Tanev

Schneider
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

Campbell is the worst defensive dman in the league. For a team struggling in their own end how can you people want this guy?


I don't think this is a fair assessment of the guy. Keep in mind he plays for the worst team in the league, and plays the 4th most minutes out of all players in the league (over 26min a game). You could put any defenceman on that team, force him to play 26+ min/game, and you'd see similar +/- results.

Here's food for thought. Campbell was +28 in 2010-11 on the powerhouse Blackhawks team. Seabrook was even, and Keith was a -1.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:06 PM

We lost 2 of our last few trades with them. Let's find a new trading partner for now...

Don't forget shirokov for duco!
Or Andrew peters for hordichuck!
Or Sean Zimmerman for Nathan paestch


Haha. Yeah, I kinda feel like this about dealing with Florida again...

Mike Gillis: Sitting in office at Rogers Arena when office phone rings. Leans over to see that it's Dale Tallon's personal cell number on the call display. Presses the "Call Forward" button to send to voice mail. Then immediately phones Dale Tallon's office number and leaves message to call him back if he's interested in dealing Bjugstad and Versteeg.


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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

Campbell/Luongo centred deal is still ideal IMO. Campbell is the piece this defense is missing. He's twice the player Ehrhoff is
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

goc is a really good faceoff player


You are biased cuz you are German.

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

Just listening to Donnie Taylor on Team 1040 who was responding to all this talk about the Panthers being in play for Lui and he brought up a good point in that why would the Panthers want to bring in a high priced veteran goalie at this point when they likely have one eye towards Seth Jones and the first overall pick.

Valid point I think which will probably apply to any cellar dwellers rumoured to be a destination for Lui. Doesn't mean that things wouldn't happen over the summer however.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

haha pretty much.

Tanev > Gudbranson (Don't even start with the "Gudbranson has potential to be better" argument)

Schneider > Markstrom

Raymond = Matthias

Bad trade.


If Gillis pulled off a Tanev for Gudbranson trade he'd be GM of the century and Tallon would be fired immediately. There is not a single GM in the league that wouldn't consider that highway robbery.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

Just listening to Donnie Taylor on Team 1040 who was responding to all this talk about the Panthers being in play for Lui and he brought up a good point in that why would the Panthers want to bring in a high priced veteran goalie at this point when they likely have one eye towards Seth Jones and the first overall pick.

Valid point I think which will probably apply to any cellar dwellers rumoured to be a destination for Lui. Doesn't mean that things wouldn't happen over the summer however.


If they unload their vets and wait till the trade deadline to get Lu, they'll be getting the number 1 with or without him.

Also if they unload enough salary in trades it will offset Lu's salary anyways, so it's irrelevant.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:03 PM

If Gillis pulled off a Tanev for Gudbranson trade he'd be GM of the century and Tallon would be fired immediately. There is not a single GM in the league that wouldn't consider that highway robbery.


All Gudbranson is is potential. Right now Tanev is the better player. He's playing top 4 minutes on the Canucks and is a career plus player. Gudbranson has not lived up to potential so far. Every hockey analyst will tell you this. Does Gudbranson have potential to be better than Tanev in a few years? Sure. Does that mean you should trade someone who has proven he can play consistently for someone who has potential to be better? I'm not so sure.

People are often blinded by the fact that Gudbranson was drafted 3rd overall and automatically assume he must be better than someone who went undrafted. So, I understand why you think Gudbranson is better even though he has not shown it on the ice

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:03 PM

Just listening to Donnie Taylor on Team 1040 who was responding to all this talk about the Panthers being in play for Lui and he brought up a good point in that why would the Panthers want to bring in a high priced veteran goalie at this point when they likely have one eye towards Seth Jones and the first overall pick.

Valid point I think which will probably apply to any cellar dwellers rumoured to be a destination for Lui. Doesn't mean that things wouldn't happen over the summer however.


Yes.. MG and his 'patience' missed the Florida boat, the only Florida team that might want Luongo is Tampa. They still see themselves as a playoff team.

Dont screw it up now Gillis...
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:09 PM

Yes.. MG and his 'patience' missed the Florida boat, the only Florida team that might want Luongo is Tampa. They still see themselves as a playoff team.

Dont screw it up now Gillis...


Something tells me Gillis was waiting for Weiss, but he ended up having a season ending injury. Probably a good thing we didn't acquire him anyways.

There's still options out there.

Don't be surprised if Detroit gets in the mix. Rumor has it Filipula is on the trading block.

Something like Filipula and Sheehan would be a good trade.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

Something tells me Gillis was waiting for Weiss, but he ended up having a season ending injury. Probably a good thing we didn't acquire him anyways.

There's still options out there.

Don't be surprised if Detroit gets in the mix. Rumor has it Filipula is on the trading block.

Something like Filipula and Sheehan would be a good trade.


He's on the trade block? are they having issues re-signing him?

Anyways, Filipula would be amazing centering our 3rd line, would fit right in with Higgin and Hansen.

Something like Ballard ++ for Filipula and Ferraro's son would be good.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

What about

Cory Schneider
Mason Raymond
Chris Tanev

for

Markstrom
Gudbranson
Matthias


Wow....overrate Tanev much? Only in Van, where the veteran D are playing so badly and the defensive strategy is so flawed would a non physical guy who adds no offense but all he does is not make massive mistakes defensively would be considered a franchise type D......lol

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

All Gudbranson is is potential. Right now Tanev is the better player. He's playing top 4 minutes on the Canucks and is a career plus player. Gudbranson has not lived up to potential so far. Every hockey analyst will tell you this. Does Gudbranson have potential to be better than Tanev in a few years? Sure. Does that mean you should trade someone who has proven he can play consistently for someone who has potential to be better? I'm not so sure.

People are often blinded by the fact that Gudbranson was drafted 3rd overall and automatically assume he must be better than someone who went undrafted. So, I understand why you think Gudbranson is better even though he has not shown it on the ice


You pay for potential. The kid just turned 21. There is not a single analyst who believes that Gudbranson is a letdown thus far, his career hasn't even started.

I'm not blinded by anything, I've watched both of them play plenty. Tanev has been defensively consistent and at this point is more defensively consistent than Gudbranson, but at over two years younger (which is a huge gap at that age) Gudbranson is better offensively, will learn the defensive game, has more size, makes huge hits and brings energy. Tanev is consistent, great. Gudbranson has the potential to be a franchise D-man.

Let's put it this way; would you trade Willie Mitchell for Gudbranson? How about even Mitchell at the peak of his career for Gudbranson today? I'm assuming you would, and if you wouldn't then there's really no point in continuing this conversation because you're delusional. Tanev's career ceiling is a poor man's Willie Mitchell, and his type of game is easily replaceable. Gudbranson's game is not.
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