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#121 6of1_halfdozenofother

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:06 PM

Luongo, Raymond, Schroeder, Ebbet for Campbell, Versteeg, smithson, Clemmesnsen, matthias, conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick

booth and or ballard moved or bought out in the summer to make room for cap

sedin sedin burrows
higgins kesler booth
lapierre versteeg hansen
matthias smithson kassian

hamhuis bieksa
edler campbell
tanev garrison

schneider
clemmensen

Edited by bolt, 12 March 2013 - 05:10 PM.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:47 PM

Versteeg is hurt. Knee.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:09 PM

For those asking for Campbell, I went to Capgeek and merely added Campbell to the roster for next season. Here it is:

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
David Booth ($4.250m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Jannik Hansen ($1.350m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Alexander Edler ($5.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Cory Schneider ($4.000m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,546,208; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (15-man roster):- $3,246,208

You'll notice that this is only a 15 man roster, and the team is already $3+ million over the cap.

Figure out which goalie you would prefer to trade, delete that amount from the cap, and then also figure out who else has to go so you can get enough players on the roster for next season.

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#125 Gollumpus

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:18 PM

Luongo, Raymond, Schroeder, Ebbet for Campbell, Versteeg, smithson, Clemmesnsen, matthias, conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick

booth and or ballard moved or bought out in the summer to make room for cap

sedin sedin burrows
higgins kesler booth
lapierre versteeg hansen
matthias smithson kassian

hamhuis bieksa
edler campbell
tanev garrison

schneider
clemmensen


You're a touch over on the cap.

http://capgeek.com/

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#126 Gollumpus

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

Stop trying to make C Wall happen. It's not going to happen.


But it's so "fetch".

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:37 AM

Luongo and Schroeder

for

Versteeg and Bjugstad

Edited by mpt, 13 March 2013 - 02:37 AM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:16 AM

I'm thinking that the Luongo to Florida boat has finally sailed and he isn't on it. Him going there made some sense before the season started and there was a chance that the Panthers would be playoff bound. Now, not so much.

1.) If Florida wants to dump cap AND salary, why would they pick up Luongo?

Luongo does have a good contract, with a reasonable cap hit for a contending team. However, with the Panthers looking to be giving up already on this season and their goal is to reduce expenditures, trading for Luongo doesn't help them.


2.) Getting Luongo would be nice if they were looking to make some noise in the playoffs, not if they are looking to re-build.

Luongo could probably help the Panthers get at least as far into the playoffs as they did last season, but if all of the veteran forwards and d-men are potentially being moved there's little to no chance of this.


3.) If the Panthers are looking to re-build, how does moving any of their younger players and top prospects (Huberdeau, Bjugstad, Gudbranson, Shore, Kulikov, Petrovic, Markstrom...) help them get better down the road?

Luongo could help develop the team in general, and Markstrom in particular, but not at the expense of any of the Panthers' high picks, top prospects and good young players.


Otherwise, there's still a chance that TB could re-kindle an interest in Luongo.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:29 AM

My playoff lineup

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Jensen-Kesler-Booth
Raymond-Bjustad or Versteeg-Burrows
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Weise, Sestito

or

Sedin-Sedin-Jensen
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
Raymond-Bjustad or Versteeg-Burrows
Higgins-Lapierre-Hansen
Weise, Sestito

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Garrison-Campbell
Edler-Tanev
Barker

Luongo

Schneider, Schroeder, 1st (Ballard) - Campbell, Bjustad, (Versteeg)

Edited by Mrock-763, 13 March 2013 - 06:01 AM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:29 AM

When Versteeg is on, he's an absolute gamechanger. Great pickup for any team.

Keyword is WHEN.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 06:39 AM

Luongo, Raymond, Schroeder, Ebbet for Campbell, Versteeg, smithson, Clemmesnsen, matthias, conditional 2nd or 3rd round pick

booth and or ballard moved or bought out in the summer to make room for cap

sedin sedin burrows
higgins kesler booth
lapierre versteeg hansen
matthias smithson kassian

hamhuis bieksa
edler campbell
tanev garrison

schneider
clemmensen


when was the last time you saw a 9 player (plus picks, even) swap in the nhl?
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#132 Monty

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:51 AM

Keyword is WHEN.


Yup, which is why I said "when," goof.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 07:53 AM

when was the last time you saw a 9 player (plus picks, even) swap in the nhl?


last time I played NHL 13
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:44 AM

booth for samuelsson and sturm...not kidding, get some experience back in the dressing room!

Sturm is in Germany now.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:45 AM

Yup, which is why I said "when," goof.

Guy has been a WHEN since he left the Hawks..goof.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 09:54 AM

Only players I'd like from Florida are their untouchables.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 10:18 AM

Guy has been a WHEN since he left the Hawks..goof.


Which is why, again, I said "when." Wow, people here really have a problem with reading, don't they?EDIT: Should also be noted that statistically, Versteeg has put up better numbers playing for Toronto/Philadelphia/Florida than he did playing in Chicago. But I see what you're saying.

Edited by Monty, 13 March 2013 - 10:32 AM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:42 AM

http://www.stltoday....19868ae5b4.html

Kris Versteeg, W, Panthers: There isn’t much scoring help on the trade market. Versteeg has scored in streaks during his NHL career, but injuries derailed his season. His $4.4 million cap hit through the 2015-16 season will be a lot for the next team to swallow.

Brian Campbell, D, Panthers: Here is another highly-skilled, highly-paid puck rusher capable of posting dreadful plus-minus rankings. He is pulling a shade more than $7.1 million under 2016, so a bidding team will really, really need an upgrade for their power play.

Just speculation, but still... Two players I'd love to see here. Booth + Luongo straight swap :lol:
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:37 PM

For those asking for Campbell, I went to Capgeek and merely added Campbell to the roster for next season. Here it is:

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Mason Raymond ($2.750m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) / Jordan Schroeder ($0.900m) / Chris Higgins ($1.500m)
Tom Sestito ($0.650m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Dale Weise ($0.650m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
3rd Pairing Dman ($1.500m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Backup ($1.500m)
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You'll notice that this is only a 15 man roster, and the team is already $3+ million over the cap.

Figure out which goalie you would prefer to trade, delete that amount from the cap, and then also figure out who else has to go so you can get enough players on the roster for next season.

regards,
G.


I'll bite.

Updated above: Total cap hit based on above is 61.446m. Almost 3.000m in wiggle room. Buyout or trade Ballard and Booth. Trade Edler for top end prospect or even a 1st rounder+more.
Might even be able to replace Raymond at a lower cap hit to free up more space. Could Edler fetch Couturier? That would save another 1.4m. So we can see it's definitely doable.

Here's one with a top end prospect like Couturier on the roster:

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($4.500m)
Jordan Schroeder ($0.900m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Chris Higgins ($1.500m)
Tom Sestito ($0.650m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Dale Weise ($0.650m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Jason Garrison ($4.600m)
Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) / Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m)
3rd Pairing Dman ($1.500m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m)
GOALTENDERS
Roberto Luongo ($5.333m)
Backup ($1.500m)

Total cap hit: $60.071m -- over $4m cap space to play with for upgrades. With this scenario, you could even keep Ballard and still have almost $1.5m to work with.

Edited by HKSR, 13 March 2013 - 01:40 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:43 PM

That is quite the small defence. I dont know why anyone here would sport wood to get Campbell on our team. He was NOT the straw that stirred the drink in Chicago. Sure he might help hold Garrisons hand to get 15+ goals but 7.2mil is alot to get that. I rather spend that on someone more useful like a Corey Perry if you throwing that money around.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 06:28 PM

I could see Gillis going after Matthias, but Florida probably want to keep him so his price might be too high.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 08:36 PM

No no no ... Only take prospects from them geez have we not learned a thing.. My florida wish list. Eric g and howden
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

http://m.tsn.ca/nhl/...HL&feedId=82008

So Versteeg is out for the season. Frankly, with how Yannik Hansen is playing, I don't know if we need another top 6 forward. 2/3s of a 3rd line that can pk would be great!
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

They have Markstrom already, and they're not going to trade their next franchise player and their captain.

Markstrom isn't looking like anything special.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 12:02 AM

It's the least likely target because he's the panthers' franchise player, but I'd love to see Huberdeau in a canucks jersey.
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