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#31 John.Tallhouse

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:09 PM

IS A BEAST?!?!
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#32 Erik Karlsson

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

I wonder if that Connor McDavid kid is going to be the next Crosby, or come close to it.
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#33 JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 09:42 PM

I hear he's pretty good.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:34 PM

Well, those of us who thought he was on the decline and going dormant that even the Sedins were better... we ain't seen nothing yet!
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:06 AM

And he is still only 25. Be afraid... be very afraid.
Doesnt seem like Gretzkys records will ever be broken, but Crosbys pace this year is 1.73 ppg.
Gretzkys career is 1.9.

Different eras, could you one day perhaps make the arguement that Crosbys the best player to ever play?
Lebron vs MJ, and I'm going for Lebron.



People can add up the numbers and awards and compare teams etc...and Gretzky beats Sid up and down in most categories.

Taking that all away, here's a point to ponder.....

The LA Kings won the Stanley Cup in 2012. If Gretzky had not been traded to LA back in 1988 (He was later given the choice to back out, but he decided to go anyway) I'm not so sure the Kings would still be there today. Hell, a lot of teams might not be here today, and I'm not just talking about the Sun Belt ones either.

As much as the NHL tries to market Crosby as their premier player in the league, the Gretzky trade was responsible for much of the success the league had south of the border, and that impact alone puts him higher on my list IMHO.

It's all opinion I guess, but I believe Gretz was the greatest human to wear skates and play the game. Maybe one day, if Sid plays until he's 40, he might beat some of his records. It's the Brodeur/Roy argument all over again.
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What are you talking about? The Flames are one of the teams that gets good value contracts


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Posted 13 March 2013 - 01:32 AM

What a phenomenal hockey player.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:06 AM

It's so much fun, but also virtually impossible to compare great players from different generations. Everything has changed so much, that the numbers just don't translate. As far as comparing greatness, I think the fairest approach is to measure how successful each player was compared to their peers within their own era.

Gretzky in the 80s:

- Regularly scored about 50% more points than the league's next best scorer
- 4 Stanley Cups in 5 years. Easily could have been 7 in a row (84-90) if not for Steve Smith (86) and The Trade (88).
- Non-stop Hart and Art Ross trophies

Crosby so far:

- Generally about Top 3 in scoring. Hasn't played a full season in 3 years, but it feels like he's 10-20% ahead of the next best scorer now.
- 1 Stanley Cup
- Will likely collect his 2nd Hart and Art Ross trophies in 7 years

Crosby is amazing, but Gretzky did two things that Crosby has yet to touch: (1) sustained #1 status, and (2) a measurable performance gap between himself and the next best player. He's had to share the spotlight too often with players like Ovi, Sedin(s), and Stamkos. Until Mario came along, no one came close to challenging Wayne's numbers until 1988.
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#38 DownUndaCanuck

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:17 AM

Just amazing what he's done to Kunitz. Malkin turned a very skilled James Neal into a 40 goal scorer, Crosby is turning a 2nd/3rd line checker into a superstar.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 11:02 AM

Gretzky in the 80s:

- Regularly scored about 50% more points than the league's next best scorer
- 4 Stanley Cups in 5 years. Easily could have been 7 in a row (84-90) if not for Steve Smith (86) and The Trade (88).
- Non-stop Hart and Art Ross trophies

Crosby so far:

- Generally about Top 3 in scoring. Hasn't played a full season in 3 years, but it feels like he's 10-20% ahead of the next best scorer now.
- 1 Stanley Cup
- Will likely collect his 2nd Hart and Art Ross trophies in 7 years


Yes! Like you said the game has changed and is constantly changing and, as a result, you can't accurately compare points over the generations. How you compared Gretzky and Crosby is the best way to compare cross generational players in my opinion.
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