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#1 Makall

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Posted 11 March 2013 - 11:32 PM

Increasingly, this year I am seeing thread after thread flaming Luongo when we lose a game - and he's only playing HALF the time. But when Schneider plays and loses, it's the defense or the whole team sucks.

And quite frankly, most of the games loss this season were by Schneider. Nevertheless, Schneider is made out to be the messiah of the Vancouver Canucks. He will solve all problems and win. He will get us the Stanley Cup. He will cure cancer.

Looking at the evidence, I don't know how Schneider came to be the Messiah of Vancouver.
-2011 Luongo in net and we get to Game 7 of Stanley Cup Finals. The outcome of which caused a riot because of how important of a game it was to Vancouver and Canucks.
-2012 Luongo in net and we get President's Trophy AGAIN and make the playoffs AGAIN. But because of the constant psychological r ape cause by Vancouver residents, Luongo breaks. A man can only take so many death threats by bandwagoners before he snaps and goes into a depression. Yet he takes the fall again for the loss and another riot (smaller) forms calling for Luongo to be traded.
-2013 Schneider gets his chance to shine as the messiah. He's getting over 50% of the games and look at where we are now. We are doing even worse than since Luongo got backed up. President's Trophy? We will be lucky to even get to the playoffs this year which I doubt if Schneider continues as "number 1".

Is the power of Schneiderman waning? Or rather did he even have any power in the first place and it wasn't just hype. I have a feeling that Schneider will not get us to the playoffs, let alone save the team with his mysterious powers.

But I bet I know who's going to take the blame again for the fails this year. Luongo. The best scapegoat we ever had. The scheneider fans will most likely ignore the stats and say that Luongo playing half the games (even though he won most of them) made Schneider worse or that he used a voodoo curse on the team.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 11:32 PM

Of course he can.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 11:42 PM

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I hope he can score because some games he may have to if he wants to win.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 11:52 PM

Canucks don't have a game for a couple days and look at the threads that are popping up....
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 11:54 PM

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Luongo and Schneider aren't the issue, everything going on in front of them is
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:04 AM

I completly agree, I love Lu and I think Scneider is pretty great but I don't think he is the ginger messiah that he is made out to be. In all honesty, we're lucky to have either one.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

Where is the minus button?
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:20 AM

The way the team plays sometimes, Price/Rinne/Lundqvist couldn't save them.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:26 AM

I don't know, but I'd name my grandchildren after him if he could prevent more of these Lu versus Schneider threads!

It's getting bloody ridiculous.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:17 AM

Yes, if he surrenders his salary so that the team can acquire FA at the deadline.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:20 AM

neither goalie deserves any blame. this team's flaws right now go well beyond the crease. we've scored more than two goals only twice in our last 8 games ... doesn't matter who is goalie, no tender is going to 'save' the canucks ... it's going to take an entire team turnaround. and it starts with goal scoring, not goal saving.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:22 AM

I hope he can score because some games he may have to if he wants to win.


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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:05 AM

It will be the biggest mistake in team history if we go with Schneider over Luongo just a gut feeling both good goalies just think we will regret it later we take luo for granted
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:30 AM

Frankly I'm sick of these Lou fan versus Schneider fan threads. Did we really need yet another? There's plenty to add this to.

I'd prefer to keep Schneider but at this point I'd just like to see one of the two traded for an offensive upgrade and move on. Althouigh the threads will simply change to: "We traded the wrong goalie" for the next few years after every bad loss.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:50 AM

Luongo and Schneider aren't the issue, everything going on in front of them is


Sort of like Game 7 of the SCF yet people were dumping on Luongo
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 08:53 AM

I'm not trying to bash Lou by saying this but you blind if you can't understand why there is resentment for him, I'll give you a hint it has nothing to do with the reg season.

Lou almost every year has slow starts and bad numbers at the start of the season. This year he has played much better to start but anyone who is a Lou and starts to rag on Cory for not having a great first 14 games (some have been good) is just trolling and ignoring the fact that even your superstar Lou almost every year has had similar starts.

The fans didn't start turning on Lou till three playoff meltdowns. It's only out of spite that anyone would be pointing there finger at Cory or Lou this season and just trolling. They both have played well and both have played poor but goaltending has not been the problem with the nucks this season.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:00 AM

Schneider has been given the chance to run with the ball, so far, he's drop them every single time.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:19 AM

It will be the biggest mistake in team history if we go with Schneider over Luongo just a gut feeling both good goalies just think we will regret it later we take luo for granted


Woah, what a claim? Biggest mistake in team history. WOW. Even if Schneider only provided this team with average goaltending or even worse sub par goaltending he's only got a 3 year deal with a 4mil cap hit. Not the worst thing in the world, Now on the other hand It would cost this team a great deal more if say we traded Cory and kept Luongo only to have him choke in the playoffs again & again, Then we'd be stuck with the 5.3 cap hit for the next 9 years. Much bigger mistake.

Schneider has been given the chance to run with the ball, so far, he's drop them every single time.


I don't know what ball your talking about but this year there is only 2 games where goalies could be the blame for the loss. Game 1 vs Anaheim (Cory played in net) and our 8-3 blowout in Detroit. (Luongo played). This team has played pourly, No goalie has a GA of 0 and a SA% of 1.0 so how can you expect Cory to have this. He has played great, so has Luongo but unless you expect these goalies to be perfect their should be no blame on the goalies.

Edited by ForsbergTheGreat, 12 March 2013 - 10:20 AM.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:48 AM

Unfortunately no. Thank god we have lord luongo
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:58 AM

Remember that season, where we couldn't score a goal to save our lives?

Who was the goalie that came in and single-handedly brought us to the playoffs? He's usually sitting on the bench for some reason, and tonight he makes his return.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

Here's the thing with either Schneider or Luongo: They're human. They have good days and bad days. They get sick. They get tired. They get stressed. They will never be perfect. Neither is a god, nor a savior.

Both of these guys are good goalies. We'll hopefully be in good hands with either of them. I just wish fans could climb off their backs so they could be in good hands with us for a change.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

My opinion keep Luongo ,trade Schneider. Not just now ,but I filing nervousness if the other team going over our blue line,if Schneider is the goalie. This guy is good , but never "never" coming close to Luongo!
Any other team kiss Luongo a... every day , only Vancouver want her to go. Big mistake , take that to the bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

Remember that season, where we couldn't score a goal to save our lives?

Who was the goalie that came in and single-handedly brought us to the playoffs? He's usually sitting on the bench for some reason, and tonight he makes his return.




THAT'S WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT :bigblush:
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:41 AM

Woah, what a claim? Biggest mistake in team history. WOW. Even if Schneider only provided this team with average goaltending or even worse sub par goaltending he's only got a 3 year deal with a 4mil cap hit. Not the worst thing in the world, Now on the other hand It would cost this team a great deal more if say we traded Cory and kept Luongo only to have him choke in the playoffs again & again, Then we'd be stuck with the 5.3 cap hit for the next 9 years. Much bigger mistake.



I don't know what ball your talking about but this year there is only 2 games where goalies could be the blame for the loss. Game 1 vs Anaheim (Cory played in net) and our 8-3 blowout in Detroit. (Luongo played). This team has played pourly, No goalie has a GA of 0 and a SA% of 1.0 so how can you expect Cory to have this. He has played great, so has Luongo but unless you expect these goalies to be perfect their should be no blame on the goalies.



If the 8;3 Detroit loss U blamed on Luongo , then U don'y know sh... about hockey
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:43 AM

Schneider can't save this group. Loungo can't either. There are bigger issues to deal with.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

Scneider definitely can save this team... he will bring a great return near the deadline for something which can help this team over the top... awesome contribution if you ask me.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:01 PM

Ban this guy !
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

Not the way he's been playing till now, maybe in the long term...but like some said before: this team has much bigger issues!

Edited by AngNMGN99, 12 March 2013 - 12:09 PM.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:15 PM

Luongo > Schneider
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 12:16 PM

every team has a rough patch, its the ability to persevere that defines players
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