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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

Would Briere welcome a trade back to Buffalo?


Me personally? No. I don't care who he plays for. I never want to see Briere's name anywhere near the Stanley Cup.

The rest of the Sabres fanbase is split. He still get boos though every time he comes to town.

*edit* Just realized you were talking about Briere wanting to come back to Buffalo. I seriously doubt it. He's getting older and joining the Sabres in the next three years won't net any older player a shot at the cup.

Edited by SabreFan1, 13 March 2013 - 04:19 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

this one would be interesting if it happened.


Absolutely no chance of that happening.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 04:32 PM

Does it? Without Miller, Buffalo needs a starting goaltender unless they trade him for a starter. And ideally, you would want to test out the replacement before selling the known product (Miller). For example, if we offer Schneider, I think we could get some good pieces in return.

I think this is a very interesting development. Vancouver seriously needs some help on the blue line, and Buffalo is looking to sell. They have the #1 rental player in my mind, and that is Robyn Regehr - you know - that guy that led the blue line on an improbable Flames Cup run nearly a decade ago.

Regehr is that missing piece Vancouver has desperately needed - he's to Vancouver what Willie Mitchell was to LA - that veteran gritty defensive defenseman. 32 years old at $4.02mil? Instant upgrade on whoever is in on that musical chair that is the 3rd pairing. I'd even overpay if we had to because he is what we are missing on our defense.

Now, I'm not saying Regehr should be the main piece in the deal, but if we could get him as the immediate help along with some future prospects, I would consider it a success.

Proposal

To Vancouver: Robyn Regehr, Zemgus Girgensons/Joel Armia, 2013 2nd round pick

To Buffalo: Cory Schneider, Keith Ballard


Wouldn't happen. Even though Girgensons isn't having a stellar year with Rochester, he's another hard working and hockey hungry youth that has a lot of serious potential. Armia just has too much raw talent. It would be a bad idea to trade him. I think the Sabres realize that the ship won't be righted any time soon. There are just too many holes to fill. In my opinion, the best that our fanbase can hope for is to wallow in mediocrity for another couple of seasons until our prospects come into their own and are ready to do some damage in the NHL.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:22 PM

It would definitely make sense. Next year is the last year of his contract and if you watch some of his interviews, you can tell that he's sick of losing here and wants a real shot at the cup.

The only problem with the trade is that our backp Enroth sucks and is inconsistant for the most part.

Also look for the Sabres to unload Vanek for the same reasons. Vanek will most likely be looking for a raise or at least to stay at his current salary of just over 7 mill. per year. As great as he is, he isn't worth that kind of money anymore.

It has become obvious that our roster needs to be blown up and rebuilt.

Can you imagine how good 'nucks could be if they could pick up Vanek next year for maybe one or two first round picks and a decent prospect. The Canucks could trade Luongo or Schneider to another team for at least one first rounder and a prospect for sure.


I don't think Canucks have any prospects Sabres are interested in. They are loaded with young forwards so they would only be interested in Tanev. But Canucks are very weak on the blue line so...
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Drive to airport: Bieksa, Edler

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:26 PM

Wouldn't happen. Even though Girgensons isn't having a stellar year with Rochester, he's another hard working and hockey hungry youth that has a lot of serious potential. Armia just has too much raw talent. It would be a bad idea to trade him. I think the Sabres realize that the ship won't be righted any time soon. There are just too many holes to fill. In my opinion, the best that our fanbase can hope for is to wallow in mediocrity for another couple of seasons until our prospects come into their own and are ready to do some damage in the NHL.


You do realize that I meant either Girgensons or Armia - not both?

And you do realize that you are getting back Cory Schneider who will solidify your goaltending situation for the next 7-8 years in the post-Miller era?

There are many holes to fill in your organization, but the biggest hole to fill upon the departure of Miller would be in net. Cory Schneider would fill that void and it is always much easier to re-build a team around a stable starting netminder than without.

I can see why you would be hesitant to part with Armia (especially if you are also selling Vanek and Pominville) at the moment but not with Girgensons. Buffalo has a solid group of young centers in Hodgson, Grigorenko and Ennis.

It's a pretty fair deal in my opinion. We give you a solid netminder for a rental that could push us over the top, a solid prospect and a draft pick.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 05:56 PM

You do realize that I meant either Girgensons or Armia - not both?

And you do realize that you are getting back Cory Schneider who will solidify your goaltending situation for the next 7-8 years in the post-Miller era?

There are many holes to fill in your organization, but the biggest hole to fill upon the departure of Miller would be in net. Cory Schneider would fill that void and it is always much easier to re-build a team around a stable starting netminder than without.

I can see why you would be hesitant to part with Armia (especially if you are also selling Vanek and Pominville) at the moment but not with Girgensons. Buffalo has a solid group of young centers in Hodgson, Grigorenko and Ennis.

It's a pretty fair deal in my opinion. We give you a solid netminder for a rental that could push us over the top, a solid prospect and a draft pick.


Yep, I knew you meant one or the other. It's just my opinion that it wouldn't be a great decision on the Sabres part. I do see the merits of what you are saying though. You would definitely find Sabres fans who would definitely disagree with me.

I personally think it's time to turn the page on this era of Sabres hockey. Regier is going to be fired at the end of this season and I think it's time for the Sabres to dismantle his 15-16 years of mediocrity. Jettison most of the current core players, and give the next GM a fresh start with a blank slate. Since our owner is worth 3 billion dollars, money will never be an issue. The Sabres will always hover near the top of the salary cap.

Edited by SabreFan1, 13 March 2013 - 05:56 PM.

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:35 PM

Buffalo should give their head a shake and re-sign him for a couple more years.

Bryz for Miller proposals... can't be serious - Miller has significant value while Bryz, next to Dipietro, has probably the most negative value of all the contracts remaining in the NHL. The Flyers would have to throw in a huge incentive like a bluechip young player at least, and I still doubt Regier bites. If Regier hasn't learned the negative value of a terrible contract yet, he should no longer be an NHL GM.
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Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:40 PM

To Edmonton: Ryan Miller and Reghr

To Buffalo: Dubnyk, Whitney and Paajarvi.


Edmonton wins that and laughs all the way to the bank.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:08 PM

Yep, I knew you meant one or the other. It's just my opinion that it wouldn't be a great decision on the Sabres part. I do see the merits of what you are saying though. You would definitely find Sabres fans who would definitely disagree with me.

I personally think it's time to turn the page on this era of Sabres hockey. Regier is going to be fired at the end of this season and I think it's time for the Sabres to dismantle his 15-16 years of mediocrity. Jettison most of the current core players, and give the next GM a fresh start with a blank slate. Since our owner is worth 3 billion dollars, money will never be an issue. The Sabres will always hover near the top of the salary cap.


Fair enough. I think there would be Vancouver fans who would disagree with me for that too.

Personally, I think Buffalo is on the right track and they'll bounce back quick if the choose to go the blow up and tank way. Add one or two lottery pick superstars (MacKinnon, Jones, Drouin, etc) to the current group of young centers Hodgson, Grigorenko, Ennis and Girgensons (on his way), Armia on wing, Myers maturing, having some good role players, etc, could bounce back the PIT/CHI way, rather than the tank and fail way of EDM and CBJ.
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Posted 14 March 2013 - 05:43 PM

Miller?
I've always called him a Freddie Prinze Jr on crack lookalike.


He looks like luongo spend 5 years on east Hastings
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:37 PM

....and it's stupid comments that makes a player unpopular in a dressing room and hurts Miller's trade value.

Kaleta was upset that the Sabres added a 1 game suspension onto the 5 games that he had already served. Kaleta was just saying that he didn't like sitting and that he wanted to get in the game to help his team.

This was Miller's reaction to Kaleta.... http://prohockeytalk...row-up/related/

I can't imagine Luongo or Schneider saying this about a fellow teammate.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:59 PM

....and it's stupid comments that makes a player unpopular in a dressing room and hurts Miller's trade value.

Kaleta was upset that the Sabres added a 1 game suspension onto the 5 games that he had already served. Kaleta was just saying that he didn't like sitting and that he wanted to get in the game to help his team.

This was Miller's reaction to Kaleta.... http://prohockeytalk...row-up/related/

I can't imagine Luongo or Schneider saying this about a fellow teammate.


I don't think his comments really hurt his trade value, but I do agree that it was uncalled for. Miller should just go talk to Kaleta, not the media.

Things just haven't been going well for Miller in a while now.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:13 PM

....and it's stupid comments that makes a player unpopular in a dressing room and hurts Miller's trade value.

Kaleta was upset that the Sabres added a 1 game suspension onto the 5 games that he had already served. Kaleta was just saying that he didn't like sitting and that he wanted to get in the game to help his team.

This was Miller's reaction to Kaleta.... http://prohockeytalk...row-up/related/

I can't imagine Luongo or Schneider saying this about a fellow teammate.


You seem to be skipping past the fact that Kaleta told the media that he was "pissed off" and essentially said he didn't like the way his team was playing and that going out and playing pissed off hockey is what the Sabres should be doing.

Thing is - he just took a suspension and missed 5 games - not helping his team much in the process. And then to tell the media he's pissed off by his team's decision...

Was Miller's response the part that was out of line?

I don't see Luongo or Schneider saying this about a teammate because I don't see any of their teammates firing off shots publicly about being pissed off with their team.

Edited by oldnews, 17 March 2013 - 11:14 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:25 PM

Miller should spend less time worrying about what his teammates are saying and more time focusing on his own play.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:31 PM

Both Kaleta and Miller acted unprofessionally IMO. If you have something to say, say it directly to the person your message is intended for. Complaining to the media just creates a whole bunch of unnecessary attention and will just lead to further problems.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

You seem to be skipping past the fact that Kaleta told the media that he was "pissed off" and essentially said he didn't like the way his team was playing and that going out and playing pissed off hockey is what the Sabres should be doing.

Thing is - he just took a suspension and missed 5 games - not helping his team much in the process. And then to tell the media he's pissed off by his team's decision...

Was Miller's response the part that was out of line?

I don't see Luongo or Schneider saying this about a teammate because I don't see any of their teammates firing off shots publicly about being pissed off with their team.


I agree with Kaleta and so does half of the team. They basically say many of the same things in their post game interviews that he does. Only difference is, he doesn't mince words when he says it.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:49 PM

Both Kaleta and Miller acted unprofessionally IMO. If you have something to say, say it directly to the person your message is intended for. Complaining to the media just creates a whole bunch of unnecessary attention and will just lead to further problems.


The author of the article was right. Between Stafford wanting a trade and Miller shooting his mouth off a lot and the angry fans, etc. The Sabres are creating their own drama. It reminds me of "The bickering Bills" of the late 80's, early 90's.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:54 PM

I agree with Kaleta and so does half of the team. They basically say many of the same things in their post game interviews that he does. Only difference is, he doesn't mince words when he says it.


Why did the Sabres suspend him?

What is Kaleta pissed off about?

Is it the team's on-ice performance, the way the team is being managed, or the fact that he was suspended?
If it's the on-ice performance, the irony is that his recent performance hurt his team in two ways.
If it was for one of the other reasons, he probably shouldn't take it to the media - the result is predictable - the media feeds on it.
Miller wasn't mincing words either.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:02 AM

"Ron Rolston, hinted that the scratch was a quasi-extension of Kaleta’s suspension."

Kaleta was “pissed off” about the decision, and that “no matter if you're a fan, a player, you guys know what's going on."

"Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News suggested that the Sabres players were pushing for that additional punishment along with their coach."

“We handled it. He doesn’t have to go to you guys and say that stuff. There: I’m addressing it now and I’ll go and talk to him about it. There’s no reason to say that.”

Just a bit of relative context Sabresfan1 - Byron Bitz, who most of us in Vancouver liked as a depth forward in our lineup, nailed Kyle Clifford from behind in game 1 of the playoffs last year - took a major, got a 2 game suspension - Canucks gave up a pp goal - the difference in the game. Bitz didn't play again - wasn't re-signed.
No dramatics - but it;s fairly evident that cost him his roster spot here.

Edited by oldnews, 18 March 2013 - 12:11 AM.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:03 AM

Why did the Sabres suspend him?

What is Kaleta pissed off about?

Is it the team's on-ice performance, the way the team is being managed, or the fact that he was suspended?
If it's the on-ice performance, the irony is that his recent performance hurt his team in two ways.
If it was for one of the other reasons, he probably shouldn't take it to the media - the result is predictable - the media feeds on it.
Miller wasn't mincing words either.


Pretty sure he meant on ice performance and the suspension. Not positive but it seemed like it during his interview.

Second 3/17 interview box- http://video.sabres....nsole?catid=668
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:09 AM

Just saw all of Miller's post-game interview on the front page. He was a jerk right of the bat. They asked him when the Sabres will put in a good 60 minute effort and he said something to the effect of, "If you're making a betting pool put me down for April 15th". His wife works on a Charlie Sheen's new TV show. Sheen's nuttiness must be wearing off on Miller.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:15 AM

Just a bit of relative context Sabresfan1 - Byron Bitz, who most of us in Vancouver liked as a depth forward in our lineup, nailed Kyle Clifford from behind in game 1 of the playoffs last year - took a major, got a 2 game suspension - Canucks gave up a pp goal - the difference in the game. Bitz didn't play again - wasn't re-signed.
No dramatics - but it;s fairly evident that cost him his roster spot here.


Good point. Still irritates me to see someone mouth off like that.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:26 AM

Miller is a lund
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:56 AM

BUF
Luongo
Ballard
1st

VAN
Miller
Ehrhoff
Ott

Note: Ehrhoff's salary is $10.000 MIL but his cap hit is 4.000 MIL.

TOR
Edler
Schneider

VAN
Kessel
Rielly

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:59 AM

Just saw all of Miller's post-game interview on the front page. He was a jerk right of the bat. They asked him when the Sabres will put in a good 60 minute effort and he said something to the effect of, "If you're making a betting pool put me down for April 15th". His wife works on a Charlie Sheen's new TV show. Sheen's nuttiness must be wearing off on Miller.


Would Sabres fans be interesting In LUongo? Miller straight up for Luongo. Get it er done Regher!
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:16 AM

I'm not surprised by this at all. The writing has been on the wall there for pretty much the whole season.

I had proposed this type of situation in the Luongo thread.

1) Miller to Washington for Kuznetsov, Neuvirth
2) Schneider, Ballard, 1st for Vanek, Myers, Neuvirth
3) 4th, 5th for Goc

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Lou
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

He decided to step it up further yesterday and told media that Kaleta 'needs to grow up'

Always good calling out your teammates to media.... after you called out your coach..... got him fired.... called out your team.... and basically pinned everything on them.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:21 AM

I'm not surprised by this at all. The writing has been on the wall there for pretty much the whole season.

I had proposed this type of situation in the Luongo thread.

1) Miller to Washington for Kuznetsov, Neuvirth
2) Schneider, Ballard, 1st for Vanek, Myers, Neuvirth
3) 4th, 5th for Goc

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Higgins-Goc-Hansen
Pini-Lappy-Kassian

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Myers
Garrison-Tanev

Lou
Neuvirth.


:)
was just thinking of a similar three way with Luo to Buffalo, Miller to Toronto... Foligno, Scrivens coming back...

Miler for Bozak, Scrivens, 2nd

Luo for Foligno, Scrivens, 3rd.

Ebbett, 4th for Goc.

Vanek and Myers would be epic though.

Edited by oldnews, 18 March 2013 - 11:38 AM.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:35 AM

:)
was just thinking of a similar three way with Luo to Buffalo, Miller to Toronto... Foligno, Scrivens coming back...


Can you guess who loses that trade?
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

Can you guess who loses that trade?


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Sounds like you could use an affirmation today.

Why don't you spell it out - who loses that deal?

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