Patrick Kane Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Those guys aren't 4th line players, especially Booth. He is playing very well he has just been snake bitten. It happens. Without the injury last year he would have been a 20 goal scorer, and I don't know in whos world 20 goals isn't secondary production. Raymond has also regained form, and Jannik Hansen has proven himself as a viable secondary scorer it seems. And even the Penguins only have 3 offensive threats. Even looking at what it takes to win, the trend is defense, not offense. Look at last year, all the offensive teams were out early. Young have to be able to play defense, and to be big and fore-check. We have made steps to get those players, Booth was a great add, Kassian was also a nice add, Garrison was a nice add, but we need to add a 3rd line center. Lets say we get Goc or Bozak, they will be respresented by X Daniel - Henrik - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Kassian/Higgins Raymond - X - Hansen Even with this we have alot of options. - The Amex line played very well together, they are a 2nd line option. - Kassian and Booth are playing very well together, they are a 2nd line option, if you throw Kesler in the middle - Kassian has proven he can play with the twins, then Burrows and Kesler have chemistry - Raymond and Kesler have played well together in the past - Hansen has evolved and can play on the 2nd or 3rd line and be a legitimate threat. We need a center first and foremost. Cause we could bring in a top 6 forward, say Roy. And he could struggle, then what? Is he bad too? Remember Booth was a top 6 forward (I still think he is) not he isn't good enough. So what is to say that top 6 forward will be good enough, and who is available? Whats the price tag? These are all things we must consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Wow, Patrick Kane being incendiary towards Canuck fans following a decisive win... yet he's somehow a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 There is a reason we got Booth for Samuelsson/Sturm. He just wasn't that great. Yes, Florida wanted to dump his cap-hit. But why? He just wasn't that great, and still isn't that great. Would be an EXCELLENT 3rd liner, let alone 4th. He can probably play in the top 6 instead of Raymond, but you don't want MayRay on the 4th line. We all know Booth/Kesler styles don't fit. AMEX had a good run for 2 weeks, that's it. Sedin-Sedin-Burrows Raymond-Kesler-Jagr Higgins-Goc-Hansen Booth-Lapierre-Kassian Stanley cup contenders. I doubt Buffalo gives up Ott anyays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 We are having a great hockey discussion. Ask DeNiro and Smashian Kassian themselves. No hatred, insults, attacks. Just a great discussion between smart users. Would you like to attempt to join into the discussion, rather then show your displeasure towards me wherever I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yeah I agree with this. He's a big Hawks fan too but like Darth it seems clear he is very much a Nucks fan aswell, otherwise I don't think he would be made a mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Jason pominville for the win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovocop55 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 nice to get him... need to get rid of weise... he looks so bad in fighting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 You can't have it both ways. We either go for it by trading some prospects/picks, or we admit this teams window is closed and start planning for the future. I for one don't believe this teams window is closed, and think we need to go for it. You gotta take that leap of faith though. I think it would be pretty sad if we never loaded up with the core we have, and always wondered what if we had just one more impact player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Darth Kane and Patrick Kane are two different posters. Patty helps run Fantasy land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I think we are a Jagr and an Ott type player away from being serious contenders again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Well atleast we know Gillis is trying to get a 3rd line Center. Don't know why he always waits until the trade deadline to get one when we haven't had one all year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 That's where we currently stand after 2011. I agree fully. Go for it and lose, that's fine, but hold nothing back. I want that from the players, coaches and management. It's better to have loved and lost...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Raymond + Schroeder + 2nd + mid-level prospect for Roy + Morrow Canucks get the center they need + a perfect mentor for Kassian who probably has at least one good post season left in him. Dallas gets two future pieces who already did show some chemistry together. Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Morrow - Kesler - Booth Higgins - Roy - Hansen Pinizzotto - Lapierre - Kassian Weise, Sestito Roy = saviour for 2nd PP unit? Trade one of the goalies for future pieces in the summer and the Canucks won't miss a beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's not like he sits on his hands and waits for his next radio interview. What do people think he does all day? We could certainly make use of Ott's faceoff and hitting ability, as well as the points he brings. He's not all that good a possession player mind you, but plays against super tough opposition. Would it be better use of out cap space to go after him for 3C or aim for a 2nd line playmaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I think I'd rather have Vermette for the extra 750k. Vermette may not hit as much as Ott, but he's as good or better in the faceoff circle, has more upside imo, doesn't stir as much shat, and is a hardworking two way kind of player who I think would be a good fit to play with Higgins and Hansen. Ott's underlying numbers are pretty unimpressive, and something about the guy just screams warning signs to me. Haven't really caught the Ott bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Not sure if I'm sold on Roy being our third line center. I like Morrow, but if we're paying that price for rentals, I would rather go all out and get Morrow and Ott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFCanuck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I wonder what happened to all of the whiners who were crying over how MG wasn't doing anything. What else do you think he does all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I think I'd rather have Vermette for the extra 750k. Vermette may not hit as much as Ott, but he's as good or better in the faceoff circle, has more upside imo, doesn't stir as much shat, and is a hardworking two way kind of player who I think would be a good fit to play with Higgins and Hansen. Ott's underlying numbers are pretty unimpressive, and something about the guy just screams warning signs to me. Haven't really caught the Ott bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Derek Roy for a 4th? Paulsson cost 2 fourths. Alberts cost a 3rd. Get your head out of your asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Derek Roy for a 4th? Paulsson cost 2 fourths. Alberts cost a 3rd. Get your head out of your asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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