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#151 morrissex95

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:20 PM

Trade Deadline predictions
In: Ott, Bjugstad, Theodore and Fleishmann
Out: Booth and Luongo

Daniel Sedin-Henrik Sedin-Zack Kassian
Alex Burrows-Tomas Fleishmann-Ryan Kesler
Chris Higgins-Steve Ott-Jannick Hansen
Mason Raymond-Maxim Lapierre-Dale Weise
Sestito, Pinizotto

Dan Hamhius-Kevin Bieksa
Alex Edler-Jason Garrison
Keith Ballard-Chris Tanev

Schneider
Theodore

THIS IS OUR YEAR!!!
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:15 PM

It is strictly a rental because we can't afford a 5m 3rd line center


Besides... The Canucks already have a five million dollar 3C...
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#153 Canucks_Hockey_101

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:42 PM

Lappy doesn't replace Manny for a # of reasons, not as good on faceoffs or defensively, and he is right handed.

We need a center, this is how I see our center depth, with what calibre of player they are.

Henrik: 1st
Kesler: 1st
Lappierre: 4th
Ebbet: Depth
Schroeder: Offensive Depth

Riberio might not be bad, but I would want him as a Winger on Kesler's line, which would leave us in need of a center for the third line.

And if we want Ott, it will start with a 1st, then we will have to add. There will have to be an overpayment cause Buffalo doesn't have interest in moving him, and the price tag would make no sense for us.

I would look at someone along the lines of Mattias, Goc or Bozak. Any of them would be great fits IMO.


...and this is how I see the Canucks' depth at center:

Henrik: 1st
Kesler: 3rd
Lappierre: 4th
Ebbet: Depth
Schroeder: Offensive Depth
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:43 PM

...and this is how I see the Canucks' depth at center:

Henrik: 1st
Kesler: 3rd
Lappierre: 4th
Ebbet: Depth
Schroeder: Offensive Depth


LOL.

Elite two way, 70 Point, 25-40 goal third line center.

Nice, although I don't think we have the depth to put a 1st line calibre player on the third line. Unless you want Ebbett to play over him.

Edited by Smashian Kassian, 16 March 2013 - 05:44 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:54 PM

I wonder what happened to all of the whiners who were crying over how MG wasn't doing anything.

What else do you think he does all day?


Sweats a lot?
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:18 PM

Steve Ott.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 11:26 PM

Not sure if this roster will be cap friendly but here it is

In: Gaborik (if the Rangers fall out of the playoff race/retain some of Gaby's cap hit), Jagr, Roy, Fistric
Out: Luongo, Booth, Ballard, Sauve, picks

Sedin - Sedin - Gaborik
Burrows - Kesler - Jagr
Raymond - Roy - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Fistric - Tanev

Schneider

Three way trade with Vancouver, New York and someone else?
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In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:41 AM

THIS IS OUR YEAR!!!


This probably isn't our year.

Maybe next year.



But probably not next year either.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 06:58 AM

LOL.

Elite two way, 70 Point, 25-40 goal third line center.

Nice, although I don't think we have the depth to put a 1st line calibre player on the third line. Unless you want Ebbett to play over him.


70 points? haven't seen that in a couple years.... oh wait 1 year with 70 points makes you an elite two way 70 point center... cool
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:21 AM

Not sure if this roster will be cap friendly but here it is

In: Gaborik (if the Rangers fall out of the playoff race/retain some of Gaby's cap hit), Jagr, Roy, Fistric
Out: Luongo, Booth, Ballard, Sauve, picks

Sedin - Sedin - Gaborik
Burrows - Kesler - Jagr
Raymond - Roy - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Fistric - Tanev

Schneider

Three way trade with Vancouver, New York and someone else?


ROFL. Our crap for other teams talent. In fact, why don't you lower the bar even further? I'm sure other GM's are willing to get even more fleeced by your proposal.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:39 AM

LOL.

Elite two way, 70 Point, 25-40 goal third line center.

Nice, although I don't think we have the depth to put a 1st line calibre player on the third line. Unless you want Ebbett to play over him.


2 Good Seasons does not make someone an elite player. Hes a great player....but he is not "elite".

Edited by Sanj, 17 March 2013 - 09:40 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:53 AM

70 points? haven't seen that in a couple years.... oh wait 1 year with 70 points makes you an elite two way 70 point center... cool


Umm ya he had two consecutive 70 point seasons. He also was injured last season.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:36 AM

Umm ya he had two consecutive 70 point seasons. He also was injured last season.


lol he is almost 30 he will never hit 70 points again. Also what good is a player when they get hurt every year come back and get hurt 7 games later?
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:43 PM

lol he is almost 30 he will never hit 70 points again. Also what good is a player when they get hurt every year come back and get hurt 7 games later?


1.) How do you know he won't?
2.) With him healthy we are 3x the team we are now (secondary scoring, pp, pk, defensive ability)
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:30 PM

...and this is how I see the Canucks' depth at center:

Henrik: 1st
Kesler: 3rd
Lappierre: 4th
Ebbet: Depth
Schroeder: Offensive Depth


HOW THE @(#$& IS KESLER A THIRD LINE CENTRE???????
WTH?!?!?!?!?
Has the world turned upside down or something????

Did you guys see how good Datsyuk was last night??
Kesler won the Selke trophy over him!
Yes, Datsyuk had injuries that year, but still, Kesler was still up there with him.

This argument is done.

I bet no one can name at least 5 second line centres better than him, or even 1 third line centre.

Edited by - PikaBOO -, 17 March 2013 - 01:36 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

Not sure if this roster will be cap friendly but here it is

In: Gaborik (if the Rangers fall out of the playoff race/retain some of Gaby's cap hit), Jagr, Roy, Fistric
Out: Luongo, Booth, Ballard, Sauve, picks

Sedin - Sedin - Gaborik
Burrows - Kesler - Jagr
Raymond - Roy - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Fistric - Tanev

Schneider

Three way trade with Vancouver, New York and someone else?


I'd love those players, but it's just too much (for realism) at a Trade deadline. If I had that lineup:

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Jagr-Kesler-Gaborik
Raymond-Roy-Hansen
Higgins-Lapierre-Kassian

Defense is fine, might try Fistric with a more offensive d-man though.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:51 PM

lol he is almost 30 he will never hit 70 points again. Also what good is a player when they get hurt every year come back and get hurt 7 games later?


The Sedins were near 30 when they hit their prime.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:54 PM

Whether you think Kesler is elite or not, there isn't a chance in hell he's a 3rd liner.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:36 PM

...and this is how I see the Canucks' depth at center:

Henrik: 1st
Kesler: 3rd
Lappierre: 4th
Ebbet: Depth
Schroeder: Offensive Depth


Kesler is as solid of a 2nd lliner as anyone. If anything he is 1b n hank is 1a
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:52 PM

My guess is the first round pick and B-level prospects are in play for a trade.

Thinking B-level prospects: Bill Sweatt, Anton Rodin, Adam Polasek, Yann Sauve?
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

2 Good Seasons does not make someone an elite player. Hes a great player....but he is not "elite".


He also had 59 points and 25 goals in 08-09, playing an elite defensive game and got nominated for the Selke.

I guess if they 2 or 3 seasons don't make a player elite.

Than you and I could come up witha a Laundry list of players who are considered Elite, who actually aren't.

70 points? haven't seen that in a couple years.... oh wait 1 year with 70 points makes you an elite two way 70 point center... cool


2 Years actually, Back to back. (With the first being higher than the 2nd) and a year of 25 goals and 59 points the year prior to that.

Thanks for coming out.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

My guess is the first round pick and B-level prospects are in play for a trade.

Thinking B-level prospects: Bill Sweatt, Anton Rodin, Adam Polasek, Yann Sauve?


That's more like C level prospects. :/
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

THEY have been trying to get them since last trade died line thats how we lost hodgson
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

THEY have been trying to get them since last trade died line thats how we lost hodgson

How is that how we lost Hodgson?
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

this kesler argument is stupid.

it's this simple: on paper, kesler is a 1st liner on a bad team, or a 2nd liner on almost any team.

in reality, however, he's a black hole that makes his linemates useless offensively and should therefore not be relied upon to anchor a scoring line, rather dedicating his icetime to shutting down the best players on the other team, killing penalties, and even letting him play in front of the net on the powerplay.

in other words, if you're going to play to kesler's strengths, as any successful team should do, it would be as a shutdown center, which is traditionally a 3rd line role. that isn't to say that he should have the 3rd most icetime amongst centers, or be paid like a "3rd liner" or even be third on the depth chart; it just means that he should be paired with players that complement his game and deployed in a role that benefits the team as much as possible.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:15 PM

Unless your name is Crosby, anyone under 6'2 and 210 pounds is not welcome to our team. We have enough Raymonds, Sedins and Ebbett.


Lol ur hilarious the leagues top 5 scorers are all under 6'2 210 do u have a hard on for big men? I guess guys like Stamkos, St. Louis, Kane and Tavares aren't welcome here and you'd rather have John Scott and Frazer McLaren.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

Ryan Kesler who played with busted hip last year, put up 49 points as a 2nd line centerman who does everything, including playing defence. 50 point 2nd line centerman is very standard in the NHL. Ryan Kesler did that while playing Injured. NOw imagine him healthy.

Anyone who thinks he's a 3rd line centerman needs to check in to a doctor right away!
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

I have a man crush for Ott. I said it before and I'll keep saying it till we get him.

Because of course Gillis refers to my posts for guidance.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:26 PM

this kesler argument is stupid.

it's this simple: on paper, kesler is a 1st liner on a bad team, or a 2nd liner on almost any team.

in reality, however, he's a black hole that makes his linemates useless offensively and should therefore not be relied upon to anchor a scoring line, rather dedicating his icetime to shutting down the best players on the other team, killing penalties, and even letting him play in front of the net on the powerplay.

in other words, if you're going to play to kesler's strengths, as any successful team should do, it would be as a shutdown center, which is traditionally a 3rd line role. that isn't to say that he should have the 3rd most icetime amongst centers, or be paid like a "3rd liner" or even be third on the depth chart; it just means that he should be paired with players that complement his game and deployed in a role that benefits the team as much as possible.


This is stupid.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

Whether you think Kesler is elite or not, there isn't a chance in hell he's a 3rd liner.

Maybe. But it sure would be a luxury to have that option.
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