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#181 boxiebrown

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

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For the record, for centers from 2009-2010 through 2011-2012, Kesler had the 17th most points and 24th most assists. During that time, two of his primary wingers set career highs in goals (Raymond and Samuelsson, both in 09/10). Last year, when he was supposedly "a black hole offensively that makes his linemates useless," his two most frequent wingers scored at more than a 20 goal pace.

But please, keep believing this "Kesler is a third line center" nonsense. It's a great way to weed out idiots.
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#182 Edlerberry

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:21 PM

But please, keep believing this "Kesler is a third line center" nonsense. It's a great way to weed out idiots.


A playmaker who could put up decent numbers on the second line with Kesler doing what he does on the third line(and playing all special teams situations to get his minutes up) would make us much deeper than Kesler on the 2nd line and then a regular 3rd line center.
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Toronto will take a step back next year.
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July 8-2013

Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


#183 boxiebrown

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:02 PM

A playmaker who could put up decent numbers on the second line with Kesler doing what he does on the third line(and playing all special teams situations to get his minutes up) would make us much deeper than Kesler on the 2nd line and then a regular 3rd line center.


Sure, and if we had Crosby and Nash, Henrik and Daniel would make a great 2nd line! People seem to be under the impression that there is a huge number of centers out there who are better offensively than Kesler, and that teams are just dying to trade them to us. There isn't. Kesler is an exceptionally good 2nd line center.
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

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Only on CDC will you actually see someone refer to Kesler as a "3rd line center".

Wow...
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:16 PM

$4.000 cap hit.


Four bucks? What a steal!
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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:18 PM

A playmaker who could put up decent numbers on the second line with Kesler doing what he does on the third line(and playing all special teams situations to get his minutes up) would make us much deeper than Kesler on the 2nd line and then a regular 3rd line center.


No offense gushy, but only someone who thinks Edler will ever be nominated for a Norris, would refer to Kesler, who has actually won a Selke, as a third liner.

That's rich.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:47 PM

Lot's of talk about Dan Boyle on twitter....thoughts?
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#188 DeNiro

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:32 PM

Lot's of talk about Dan Boyle on twitter....thoughts?


To the Canucks?

Absolutely! We haven't been the same team since the loss of Ehrhoff.

This team is built on having a strong powerplay. Without a powerplay QB, we're lost.

Boyle, Streit, or Campbell would completely change the dynamic of this team.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

To the Canucks?

Absolutely! We haven't been the same team since the loss of Ehrhoff.

This team is built on having a strong powerplay. Without a powerplay QB, we're lost.

Boyle, Streit, or Campbell would completely change the dynamic of this team.


Somehow all three of those guys would be healthy scratches for andrew alberts lol. I'd love Garrison with any one of them on the point for our PP. Should break the funk a bit
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#190 thad

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:57 PM

this kesler argument is stupid.

it's this simple: on paper, kesler is a 1st liner on a bad team, or a 2nd liner on almost any team.

in reality, however, he's a black hole that makes his linemates useless offensively and should therefore not be relied upon to anchor a scoring line, rather dedicating his icetime to shutting down the best players on the other team, killing penalties, and even letting him play in front of the net on the powerplay.

in other words, if you're going to play to kesler's strengths, as any successful team should do, it would be as a shutdown center, which is traditionally a 3rd line role. that isn't to say that he should have the 3rd most icetime amongst centers, or be paid like a "3rd liner" or even be third on the depth chart; it just means that he should be paired with players that complement his game and deployed in a role that benefits the team as much as possible.


Agree, IMO the best way to do that is..

Sedin sedin _____
Burrows kesler Hansen

The question isn't who can we get to put with kesler, it's who else can we put with twins because that 2nd line would be unreal. It maximizes kesler burrows and Hansen's skills.

Put kassian back up there. Get him goin, rush his development, whatever, but give him a solid stretch of games with the twins and see if be can handle it. He has once already.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:53 PM

Curious who the Canucks are looking at in Montreal, guessing a centre. Habbs assistant Gm was at Canucks game last night. They've had scouts watching Van a lot this season. And Bowman was watching Habs game tonight in Montreal. Bowman has also stated publicly he's looking for a centre. So I'm guessing a centre in Montreal is up for grabs. Eller? he's been rumored to be on the block before. Would Connauton and a 2nd or 3rd get the deal done?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:13 PM

To the Canucks?

Absolutely! We haven't been the same team since the loss of Ehrhoff.

This team is built on having a strong powerplay. Without a powerplay QB, we're lost.

Boyle, Streit, or Campbell would completely change the dynamic of this team.


^ To me thats the greatest need for the Canucks, not necessarily a De-man that can shoot a rocket but more so a guy that can skate well, has vision and offensive flare.
Secondary scoring threat would be a close second
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:10 PM

Ryan Kesler was built to be a 50-goal scoring RW. I don't think he can achieve that potential as our 2nd line centre and i think he'd do much better on the wing.
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