Canuckler87 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Recently, Brian Burke made a comment at an event that went something along the lines of "sometimes you do the work, and somebody else gets the credit". While no doubt he could've been referring to Nonis.. could this not apply to Gillis as well? I like Gillis as a GM, and im certainly not saying he's a bad one. But im curious to know why Brian Burke doesn't get the same type of respect around here. Many of the top players from the 2011 cup run; the Sedins, Kesler, Edler & Bieksa (not to mention guys like Schneider & Hansen) were drafted by Burke. Not to mention we had some great years under him during the time of the West Coast Express. That was coming out of the disastrous last couple years of the 90's where we had messier. Now Toronto is having a bit of success after Brian Burke has left. But it's fair to say that the team was built by him. My question is why is Burke often portrayed in a negative light by some fans & media? Was it because of his outspoken nature? .. (He had a couple gems here like when announcing the Bure trade after Pavel asked out he said "Im very PLEASEDD to announce that Pavel bure has been dealt.) .. if you guys find more of these outbursts during his time here, please post them in this thread! It'd be a good laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 can i have some cake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Kessel trade really screwed em. Toronto could have Seguin and Hamilton right now if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Recently, Brian Burke made a comment at an event that went something along the lines of "sometimes you do the work, and somebody else gets the credit". While no doubt he could've been referring to Nonis.. could this not apply to Gillis as well? I like Gillis as a GM, and im certainly not saying he's a bad one. But im curious to know why Brian Burke doesn't get the same type of respect around here. Many of the top players from the 2011 cup run; the Sedins, Kesler, Edler & Bieksa (not to mention guys like Schneider & Hansen) were drafted by Burke. Not to mention we had some great years under him during the time of the West Coast Express. That was coming out of the disastrous last couple years of the 90's where we had messier. Now Toronto is having a bit of success after Brian Burke has left. But it's fair to say that the team was built by him. My question is why is Burke often portrayed in a negative light by some fans & media? Was it because of his outspoken nature? .. (He had a couple gems here like when announcing the Bure trade after Pavel asked out he said "Im very PLEASEDD to announce that Pavel bure has been dealt.) .. if you guys find more of these outbursts during his time here, please post them in this thread! It'd be a good laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Sounds like when Burkie took over the Ducks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Burke was abrasive and not a good "front man" for the image the new owners want. In addition, he tied his horse to the coach WIlson wagon for too long and that likely cost him with the new owners as well. Maybe a lesson in there for MG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brahma Bull Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The main reason why people dislike him is because he is annoying and is obsessed with running his mouth and being in the spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marleau_12 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Kessel trade really screwed em. Toronto could have Seguin and Hamilton right now if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I don't have a big problem with the guy, but... Question: Can Burke ever just shut the hell up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 He's hated because he's an egotistical jerk who phones people's bosses to have them fired if he doesn't like what their saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Amazing how there's already so much hate in this thread for BB. He's a great GM. He's had one bad trade and many good ones. People just can't let it go even though he's made 3 NHL teams a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I don't think his hockey sense is ever really questioned too much and it's more his stubbornness and brash nature. He's really outspoken and holds no punches, which doesn't always translate well. But I think anyone who knows anything about hockey really pays him his dues with regard to his leadership and overall knowledge of the game. I'll always give props to him and the way he handled his son's situation really escalated my respect for him as a person as well as a hockey guy. But, as part of the ol'gentleman's club, the whole power thing comes into play in a bit of a Donald Trump way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 is he talking about himself when he was with the Ducks? it has something to do with managing the team other than giving out contracts when it comes to winning in the NHL. This is the second time Nonis took over a team from Burke and this is the second time he turns the team around with the same core who failed when Burke was managing the team. I think Nonis should have more credit than "I did the work but he eats the cake." same as Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Kessel trade really screwed em. Toronto could have Seguin and Hamilton right now if im not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The trade made sense at the time. ANY GM in the league would have made that deal if they were in Burke's position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Sounds like when Burkie took over the Ducks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Honestly, you can look at any GM and say they inherited a good player from a previous GM's draft pick or trade. When Burke joined he got Naslund and Bertuzzi from Pat Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
37yrsncounting Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Recently, Brian Burke made a comment at an event that went something along the lines of "sometimes you do the work, and somebody else gets the credit". While no doubt he could've been referring to Nonis.. could this not apply to Gillis as well? I like Gillis as a GM, and im certainly not saying he's a bad one. But im curious to know why Brian Burke doesn't get the same type of respect around here. Many of the top players from the 2011 cup run; the Sedins, Kesler, Edler & Bieksa (not to mention guys like Schneider & Hansen) were drafted by Burke. Not to mention we had some great years under him during the time of the West Coast Express. That was coming out of the disastrous last couple years of the 90's where we had messier. Now Toronto is having a bit of success after Brian Burke has left. But it's fair to say that the team was built by him. My question is why is Burke often portrayed in a negative light by some fans & media? Was it because of his outspoken nature? .. (He had a couple gems here like when announcing the Bure trade after Pavel asked out he said "Im very PLEASEDD to announce that Pavel bure has been dealt.) .. if you guys find more of these outbursts during his time here, please post them in this thread! It'd be a good laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The trade made sense at the time. ANY GM in the league would have made that deal if they were in Burke's position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papayas Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The trade made sense at the time. ANY GM in the league would have made that deal if they were in Burke's position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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