kazin! Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Actually it is Canada - if you accept that we are a multicultural country with no official culture and do not place one culture above another.We do force people to speak English or French outside of very limited circumstances. It seems many people misunderstand what it means to have English as an official language. Per the Canadian Multiculturalism Act AND WHEREAS the Constitution of Canada and the Official Languages Act provide that English and French are the official languages of Canada and neither abrogates nor derogates from any rights or privileges acquired or enjoyed with respect to any other language; ... 3. (1) It is hereby declared to be the policy of the Government of Canada to ... (i) preserve and enhance the use of languages other than English and French... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Now is the public school system one of those "very limited circumstances"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psylocke Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm a 1st generation Canadian-born Chinese. I have perfect English and I'd say fluent Mandarin and Cantonese. To give you all some perspective I grew up in White Rock and went to UBC. I now work in the Richmond School District. The influx of Chinese immigrants is absolutely staggering. Never mind Richmond, White Rock is even becoming more and more Chinese. This is going to be an even bigger problem in the next 20 years. Look at the public schools in Richmond. I can walk into a classroom and see 1 Caucasian child. There are many classrooms that are 100% mainland Chinese. I have to say "English at school please" probably 5 times in one day. Some kids don't speak a lick of English. This is almost like 1997 again, but with a completely new player in the mainland Chinese, who if you know anything about the types of Chinese, are a whole different game. Edit: Guess I should give my opinion on the topic... I think all signs should have English on them. I'm sick of seeing neighbourhoods (Richmond, Victoria Dr. in East Vancouver, parts of Burnaby) being exclusively Chinese and catering exclusively to such. Sometimes I have to remind myself that I'm in Canada. Sometimes when I leave White Rock it's like I hopped in a portal to Asia. Don't get me started on UBC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I would think there are more people of other ethnicities (First Nations, Indian, Oriental, etc.) than there are French people... I think it should just be live and let live. If you can't read something on the menu at a CHINESE restaurant, go to White Spot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodzillaDeuce Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 No , People have rules they need to follow Chinese is not recognized as a official language in Canada , English and French are and i 100 percent agree that if Chinese people want to be in business in Canada then the official languages need to be used or go back to communist China and open your business there because if you want to live here you then need to adapt to Canadian policys and in brace this countries culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 No , People have rules they need to follow Chinese is not recognized as a official language in Canada , English and French are and i 100 percent agree that if Chinese people want to be in business in Canada then the official languages need to be used or go back to communist China and open your business there because if you want to live here you then need to adapt to Canadian policys and in brace this countries culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellins Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I think kazin! and I share the same view then. You can leave the businesses out of this but you gotta admit there are some Chinese immigrants out there who have come here and couldn't care less about learning English because they know they can get by just fine without it. I saw it in high school when you had students who looked like they were really trying to get a handle on the language and even made English-speaking friends, then you had the other students who again, seemed like they couldn't care less and kept to a social circle of similar people. Lo and behold the latter still struggled with English all the way through grade 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Then put in your request with the restaurant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I think kazin! and I share the same view then. You can leave the businesses out of this but you gotta admit there are some Chinese immigrants out there who have come here and couldn't care less about learning English because they know they can get by just fine without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the people. Noam Chomsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the people. Noam Chomsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 C'est vrai, c'est vrai qu'on a été battus, au fond, par quoi? Par l'argent puis des votes ethniques, essentiellement. ("It's true, it's true we were beaten, yes, but by what? By money and ethnic votes, essentially.") ~ Quebec PQ Premier Jacques Parizeau October 30, 1995 conceding defet in the Quebec separatism referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 And then Mr. Parizeau had to resign, which I know I don't need to tell you:) Would would the FLQ be called in BC, the LFBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 C'est vrai, c'est vrai qu'on a été battus, au fond, par quoi? Par l'argent puis des votes ethniques, essentiellement. ("It's true, it's true we were beaten, yes, but by what? By money and ethnic votes, essentially.") ~ Quebec PQ Premier Jacques Parizeau October 30, 1995 conceding defet in the Quebec separatism referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five For Fighting Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 It is getting out of hand. I work in retail and was asked where our Chinese Flyer is. I said sorry we are in Canada so it's either the one we have or I can print you one in French =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Harper already sold us to the Chinese, let the assimilation begin.. I think it would be hilarious if they passed this law and all the chinese people put just Chinese and French on all their signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 It is getting out of hand. I work in retail and was asked where our Chinese Flyer is. I said sorry we are in Canada so it's either the one we have or I can print you one in French =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Don't worry Deb, the KKK and neo-Nazis are on there way to help you defend your euro-centeric vision of white Canadian culture. EDIT - misspelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pouria Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I'm a 1st generation Canadian-born Chinese. I have perfect English and I'd say fluent Mandarin and Cantonese. To give you all some perspective I grew up in White Rock and went to UBC. I now work in the Richmond School District. The influx of Chinese immigrants is absolutely staggering. Never mind Richmond, White Rock is even becoming more and more Chinese. This is going to be an even bigger problem in the next 20 years. Look at the public schools in Richmond. I can walk into a classroom and see 1 Caucasian child. There are many classrooms that are 100% mainland Chinese. I have to say "English at school please" probably 5 times in one day. Some kids don't speak a lick of English. This is almost like 1997 again, but with a completely new player in the mainland Chinese, who if you know anything about the types of Chinese, are a whole different game. Edit: Guess I should give my opinion on the topic... I think all signs should have English on them. I'm sick of seeing neighbourhoods (Richmond, Victoria Dr. in East Vancouver, parts of Burnaby) being exclusively Chinese and catering exclusively to such. Sometimes I have to remind myself that I'm in Canada. Sometimes when I leave White Rock it's like I hopped in a portal to Asia. Don't get me started on UBC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Habitat Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 My main concern with this is not the signage itself but with how there are so many prople who refuse to learn english. it's clearly dividing people within communities apart. It divides co workers ( and I'm not just talking about Chinese). People don't want to associate with each other. It's pushing us apart from a community stand point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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