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#31 Canucks fan in chicago

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:23 PM

Instead of going after tall guys we should go after guys who actually have some skill.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:24 PM

not to nitpick a player i know virtually nothing about, but that goal was far more lucky than it was beauty.


Right, cause scoring from your knees is so easy...
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:24 PM

If I'm a UFA I look at the Canucks prospect pool and the age of the team and realize that there's going to be some opportunities here in the next couple years.

Yeah especially as a defenseman. You could be getting call ups as early as next year if your right handed and have a confident start to the season.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:26 PM

Instead of going after tall guys we should go after guys who actually have some skill.


We have skilled guys, what we need is role players. This guy will fill a role for us in the near future.

And he does have skill. His skill is roughing up guys, winning faceoffs, and playing sound defensive hockey.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:27 PM

Right, cause scoring from your knees is so easy...


And roofing it. what a Beauty
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:27 PM

Right, cause scoring from your knees is so easy...


no ... it's not ... which is one of the reasons that goal was lucky.

i'd bet the farm that 9 times out of 10 that puck hits the crest.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:35 PM

Neither was Chara when he first broke into the NHL with the Islanders...he didn't start playing physical until 3-4 seasons into his NHL career.

The only big, talented guys that I can recall stepping into the NHL and being a dominant physical force immediately are Scott Stevens, Chris Pronger and to some degree Luc Phaneuf. As we all know, love them of hate them, Stevens and Pronger were very special players.


Great points, I'm from pg where chara played junior. He had to learn to be smart positionally because he could barely skate at all, let alone backwards and lining a guy up for a hit.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:40 PM

If we can't get DeKesyer (The best available) I would like to get Sustr and/or Taker.

Lagainere wouldn't be bad either. But I want the others a tad more.


STOP COPYING EVERYTHING I AM GONNA SAY BEFORE I SAY IT!!!

DeKesyer would be #1 for me. Sustr would be an interesting piece, but we will see.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:43 PM

STOP COPYING EVERYTHING I AM GONNA SAY BEFORE I SAY IT!!!

DeKesyer would be #1 for me. Sustr would be an interesting piece, but we will see.


LOL.

Yeah DeKesyer should be priority #1 although I doubt we will get him, hopefully we knab Sustr though, or else Taker.

Either of the latter 2 would be great if we don't land DeKesyer.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:44 PM

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:51 PM

We have to be getting close to our 50 contract limit. We only have, what, 3 sliding contracts?

I think this puts us at 51 contracts - 3 sliding = 48, not leaving us much wiggle room until the offseason.


I was hoping that rule would change to increase the number of contracts under the new collective agreement but I assume it didn't.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:56 PM

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Instead of going after tall guys we should go after guys who actually have some skill.


Canucks draft skill players like Schroeder, Hodgson
OMG CANUCKS NEED MORE GRIT WE'RE SO SOFT AND SMALL

Canucks sign tough players like Lain, trade for players like Kassian
OMG CANUCKS NEED MORE SKILL EVERYONE HAS HANDS OF STONE


I don't understand CDC, like, ever.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

no ... it's not ... which is one of the reasons that goal was lucky.

i'd bet the farm that 9 times out of 10 that puck hits the crest.


Which is exactly what makes it impressive.

You don't think any skilled goal scored in the NHL doesn't need a little luck? Even some of the best goals ever needed some help from the defenders and the goalie.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:32 PM

Canucks draft skill players like Schroeder, Hodgson
OMG CANUCKS NEED MORE GRIT WE'RE SO SOFT AND SMALL

Canucks sign tough players like Lain, trade for players like Kassian
OMG CANUCKS NEED MORE SKILL EVERYONE HAS HANDS OF STONE


I don't understand CDC, like, ever.


Yeah totally, but you missed one more thing! The next CDC response is the classic "we should trade Schroeder, Hodgson, Kassian, Luongo, Sweat, Pyatt, Rome and a 7th round pick for Ovechkin." It's a pretty fair trade *chuckle*. Note the sarcasm.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:36 PM

Dekeyser isn't coming to Van.

He's going to Detroit.

And Detroit can give him playing time too.

Lain's not going to be a top 6 player. Bottom 6 for sure. Most likely a fourth line centre. If he ends up being a third line player, that's fantastic, though, I don't see it happening.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:38 PM

remember MG personally went to scout Lagainere.........hopefully he come here
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

remember MG personally went to scout Lagainere.........hopefully he come here


We need Sustr more IMO, but I'd be happy with both.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

We need Sustr more IMO, but I'd be happy with both.


We have tonnes of contract spots for next season - and will likely be letting some of underwhelming prospects walk (Rai, Sauve etc.) --- so might as well sign them both.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:50 PM

Neither was Chara when he first broke into the NHL with the Islanders...he didn't start playing physical until 3-4 seasons into his NHL career.

The only big, talented guys that I can recall stepping into the NHL and being a dominant physical force immediately are Scott Stevens, Chris Pronger and to some degree Luc Phaneuf. As we all know, love them of hate them, Stevens and Pronger were very special players.


Jovo stepped in and played huge right off the bat as a 19 yr old - I remember his ability (as a rookie) to handle Lindros (drilled him really nicely a couple times - his game actually changed and he became less physically dominant, but not making the point to try to contradict what you're saying - just one of the few rare players who stepped in and were physical forces from the get-go.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:55 PM

We have tonnes of contract spots for next season - and will likely be letting some of underwhelming prospects walk (Rai, Sauve etc.) --- so might as well sign them both.


There's no way we let Sauve walk. He hasn't lived up to his 2nd round selection but he's far from a write off.

Guys like Rai, Tochkin, Honzik, Anthony, Schneider, Desbiens, Mullen, and Joslin will all be taken off the books before Sauve.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 04:55 PM

Which is exactly what makes it impressive.

You don't think any skilled goal scored in the NHL doesn't need a little luck? Even some of the best goals ever needed some help from the defenders and the goalie.


it's why I differentiate between beautiful skilled goals and fun-to-watch fluky goals. for example, if i remember correctly, in 2010 the "goal of the year" competition came down to the sedins' goal against calgary, and a goal where stamkos batted in his own rebound out of mid-air while falling. you're a smart enough guy to figure out how i'd classify each of those goals, and needless to say i think the right one won.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:00 PM

There's no way we let Sauve walk. He hasn't lived up to his 2nd round selection but he's far from a write off.

Guys like Rai, Tochkin, Honzik, Anthony, Schneider, Desbiens, Mullen, and Joslin will all be taken off the books before Sauve.


Honzik doesn't have a contract - so doesn't matter.

Yes- Desbiens, Mullen and Joslin will walk - but similar depth will likely be signed to replace them.

S. Schneider and Rai are RFA at season's end - and likely will not be re-signed

Tochkin still has another year.

Sauve has been passed by Polasek, Andersson, Connauton and Tanev in the depth chart; he will be passed by Corrado. With Price and Tommernes as being probably signed (as they will lose their rights) - that puts Sauve against ALL those players for depth positions behind Bieksa, Hamhuis, Garrison and Edler (PLUS the possibility of Sustr and Dekayser)

Edited by Squeak, 16 March 2013 - 05:04 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:01 PM

Right, cause scoring from your knees is so easy...

he said lucky , not easy .....You dont need to try and interpit anything because the words are in front of you young child

These guys sound like nothing to get excited about.
Sure one guy is big, Chara is huge and has turn into a franchise dman but just because your big dont doesn't mean your the next Chara chancest are he turns out to be the next Valabik

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:03 PM

Laganiere is very intriguing. Sustr I am not entirely sold on yet.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

it's why I differentiate between beautiful skilled goals and fun-to-watch fluky goals. for example, if i remember correctly, in 2010 the "goal of the year" competition came down to the sedins' goal against calgary, and a goal where stamkos batted in his own rebound out of mid-air while falling. you're a smart enough guy to figure out how i'd classify each of those goals, and needless to say i think the right one won.


Like I said, even a goal like that needs luck in the form of the defenders not getting a stick on the puck, and the goalie biting on the play.

The Sedins don't score a goal like that 9 times out of 10 in practice, let alone in a game situation. So I really don't see the difference.

You act like the only difference between a skilled goal and a lucky goal is the manner in which it's scored. If that were true, you could replace Stamkos with any player in that situation and they should score. But I think we both know that's not true.

Lucky or not, highlight reel goals like all 3 of these need a highly skilled player involved.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

It hard to say whether Sustr or Lagainere who we need more...........both will address our need of a big defenseman and a big top 6 center? If we could only get one probably go after Sustr is more likely
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:05 PM

he said lucky , not easy .....You dont need to try and interpit anything the words are in front of you young child


the weird little tip play to the slot that preceded the goal was also very lucky to work out as it did.
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

Closest NHL comparable is probably Tyler Myers. Most people will immediately think Chara, but Sustr apparently doesn't play with much of an edge. He uses his positioning and hockey sense rather than his body.

Hopefully that can change once he packs on some more pounds. He seems a little light fr 6'8" right now.


You can always bulk them up but it's pretty hard to stretch them any taller. He'll get bigger but even though he's a little light, he's also strong and his reach would be incredible. Pretty tough to get around a guy with a 10 foot wingspan and an 8 foot stick :lol:
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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:07 PM

he said lucky , not easy .....You dont need to try and interpit anything because the words are in front of you young child


Thanks for the opinion old man. Nobody asked though. ;)
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