coastal1 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Boysss! Lets calm down here... if we win tonight we're tied with four the teams for third place. Lets ease our fingers off that panic button now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I think fans have every right to be critical. Especially the ones that go to the game and spend ridiculous amounts of money to support their team but get rewarded with uninspired/boring hockey. Charging premium ticket prices for garbage product is robbery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 When I say this I mean that we're pretending to be contenders when the core of our team has simply run it's course in terms of being "elite". Like Iginla, the Twins are on the decline, but play well enough to help make this team contend for a playoff spot and will possibly do so for the next few years. Making the playoffs is different than winning in the playoffs and with the team we have assembled now we'll be having 1st round exits much like Calgary did after their cup run. We're tied up in so much salary that there is little room to inject new blood and retool/rebuild properly. A lot of dead weight/poor contracts. Like Calgary, our defense core is getting older, slower and their level of play has just dropped considerably. It's a little overrated in that sense and we've got way too much money tied up in a core that's all underachieving minus Tanev. Like Calgary our Prospect pool isn't in the greatest shape. Only real potential stud is Nicklas Jensen but he might be a few seasons away from being a real solid NHLer. Like Calgary, we're stubborn in accepting change. Whether it be come a coaching staff or the type of player personnel that we acquire. MG has done a piss poor job since after the cup run in managin our assets and acquiring the right pieces. It's quite clear to see that our team is being out coached on a nightly basis. The Canucks management have to rebuild now!A good season to start is this year when it's a shortened season. New blood is important to keeping an organization fresh and it's clear that the coaching staff and certain players have worn our their welcome. We're an extremely stale, boring and predictable hockey team with no edge or swagger. This core is a fragment of the 2011 team and it's quite obvious that it's not just a slump. I don't want to be like Calgary where they have nothing to look forward to for the near future because they made terrible decisions when it was the proper and justified time to rebuild. Canucks are heading down that path with relying on the Twins and having long term contracts in place to older players past their prime. We need to rebuild this team and it's core because they've ran their course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPS Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 In the 2000-2001 season, we got 27 year old Naslund, 25 year old Bertuzzi and 25 year old Morrison. That's the year that the 20 year old Sedin twins started their NHL career. So roughly you would want a 7 year gap (or less) between your current 1st line and your future 1st line. This is very important, as that means your new players start learning from your best players in their prime. They are developed in a culture of winning. They are trained with self confidence. This season (2012-2013) we got 32 year old Sedins and 28 years old Kesler. This year we got 22 year old Kassian, 22 year old Schroeder and 20 years old Jensen. So will the likes of Kassian, Shroeder and Jensen be as effective as the Sedins when they turn prime? If they are, are they "loyal" enough to stay at a reasonable salary? I don't know enough to answer that. But if not, management really got to start thinking about it. If we do trade, we are probably better off trading for 22-25 year old talents than draft picks. The draft picks will be too young. By the time they get up to the NHL the Sedins would be near retirement age, and cannot demonstrate as well as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Having difficulty figuring out how we are trending towards copying Calgary. - Vancouver doesn't have one defenseman making over $6M (who should be making $4.5 at best) - Vancouver has a capable starter for when they trade Luongo. Calgary has nothing in the pipeline. - Vancouver has two point per game players in their early 30s, Calgary doesn't have 1 player producing at that rate. - Calgary's GM nearly gave up a 1st and a 3rd round pick for literally nothing. To my recollection, no other GM has done that. - Calgary traded a top 20 defenseman in the league for Matt Stajan (other players gone from that trade). The Canucks aren't playing well, and all GMs make mistakes, but the Flames have been managed poorly for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Knight Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 We're Calgary , hopefully we rebuild now instead of trying to hold on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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