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#1 AllCanucksAllTheTime

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:21 PM

Vancouver / Anaheim

To Ana: Booth, Garrison, Ebbett, 5th rd.

To Van: Ryan, Steckel


Anaheim won't have enough money to resign Bobby Ryan now with the two 8yr deal they game Getzlaf & Perry. Plus Ryan is a goal scorer that can play with the Sedins, and Steckel is a great faceoff guy for the 3rd line.


Vancouver / Toronto

To Tor: Luongo

To Van: Kulemin, Blacker, 2nd rd.


Toronto still needs stability in net, Lou gives them that. With the return of Lupul, Frattin can move down to the 2nd line with Kadri & JVR leaving no room for Kulemin. And Jesse Blacker is a prospect defenseman who can start making the transition to the NHL.


THEN: We sign Brent Johnson to back up Schneids.

***Given Booth's injury this trade will probably have to wait until the offseason***

Projected Lineups:

Sedin - Sedin - Ryan
Kulemin - Kesler - Burrows
Higgins - Steckel - Kassian
Weise - Lapierre - Hansen

Edler - Hamhuis
Bieksa - Tanev
Ballard - Blacker

Schneider
Johnson
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THIS:

 

Lecavalier had a terrible season and was flamed into submission for his poor play.

 

Yet, only 1 player on the Canucks scored more goals than him. That 1 player had 5 more goals (6 more points) but played 8 more games, averaged 6 and a half more minutes of ice a game, and took 107 more shots on net.

 

Kind of speaks volumes to how ugly the Canucks play was this past season.

 


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:32 PM

Why would Anaheim do that? And why would Garrison waive his NTC.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:35 PM

if we made it a 1st to Anaheim they might listen. maybe. I think we would have to give a top prospect as well. the 2nd trade is not bad.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:40 PM

Well, I'm just assuming Garrison would. I personally never liked the signing. Not for the amount of money he got.

Anaheim's second line is getting old. Selanne and Koivu are about to retire, and so are a few of their D-Men. Lookng back I guess Ebbett and a 5th is a little low, giving a first is too much unles we get a 3rd back.. Maybe try this?


To Ana: Garrison, Booth, Ebbett, 1st rd.

To Van: Ryan, Steckel, 3rd rd.
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THIS:

 

Lecavalier had a terrible season and was flamed into submission for his poor play.

 

Yet, only 1 player on the Canucks scored more goals than him. That 1 player had 5 more goals (6 more points) but played 8 more games, averaged 6 and a half more minutes of ice a game, and took 107 more shots on net.

 

Kind of speaks volumes to how ugly the Canucks play was this past season.

 


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:15 AM

Vancouver / Anaheim

To Ana: Booth, Garrison, Ebbett, 5th rd.

To Van: Ryan, Steckel


Anaheim won't have enough money to resign Bobby Ryan now with the two 8yr deal they game Getzlaf & Perry. Plus Ryan is a goal scorer that can play with the Sedins, and Steckel is a great faceoff guy for the 3rd line.
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Why would Anaheim do that? And why would Garrison waive his NTC.

As already stated, the first deal makes no sense so I stopped reading. If Anaheim can't afford Ryan then why would they want Booth and Garrison's contracts back?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 11:58 AM

What I meant is that they can't afford to tie up all that salary in one player. But getting a top 4 d-man and a 2nd line pwf with offensive upside for the same price would help balance their scoring.
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THIS:

 

Lecavalier had a terrible season and was flamed into submission for his poor play.

 

Yet, only 1 player on the Canucks scored more goals than him. That 1 player had 5 more goals (6 more points) but played 8 more games, averaged 6 and a half more minutes of ice a game, and took 107 more shots on net.

 

Kind of speaks volumes to how ugly the Canucks play was this past season.

 


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

Anaheim doesn't accept, and I don't see the second deal as being that desirable on the Canucks end.

I'll try to do this as unbiased as possible with deals that are more realistic.

To Vancouver: Bobby Ryan
To Anaheim: 1st, Raymond, Schroeder

To Vancouver: Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens, Joe Colborne
To Toronto: Luongo, 3rd
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

Since the year is all over the place right now that pick could be high or low.. maybe a conditional 3rd or 4th depending on how high it is. But I like that trade.

I like the second one for the most part, just concerned with the fact that in 3 years we could be facing another ridiculous goalie controversy. Not that it matters as long as we win games, I'm just sayin.

If the Ryan trade went through I still say move Booth for picks.. His contract is too much considering the production we get out of him.
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THIS:

 

Lecavalier had a terrible season and was flamed into submission for his poor play.

 

Yet, only 1 player on the Canucks scored more goals than him. That 1 player had 5 more goals (6 more points) but played 8 more games, averaged 6 and a half more minutes of ice a game, and took 107 more shots on net.

 

Kind of speaks volumes to how ugly the Canucks play was this past season.

 


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:51 PM

SO many things wrong with the Ducks proposal.


1) Ryan is signed for 2 more years beyond this season, so resigning him isn't an immediate concern

2) If it was a concern, why would they ship out a combined $6.2M caphit (Ryan and Steckel) to take on a $9.425 cap hit (Garrison, Booth, Ebbett)

3) Ryan is by far the best player in this deal. Anaheim gets a lot worse by doing this deal. Booth Garrison and Ebbet COMBINED couldn't replace the points from losing Ryan.

4) Booth is out long term. Why would Anaheim trade for a guy that has had injury woes for pretty much his whole career and has no timetable for a return from this one?

5) IF the Ducks were shopping Ryan Im sure that 28 other teams would be able to offer a much better package than 2 overpaid under performing guys and a borderline AHLer

Edited by qwijibo, 19 March 2013 - 12:52 PM.

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