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#1 Tanev

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:22 PM

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I remember it quite clearly last year... LA and SJ were in a battle for 8th spot.
Most people (myself included) were hoping SJ would take 8th place because LA had 'sleeping giant syndrome', and they could wake up at any time (and we all know that they did wake up in the playoffs).

Fast forward to this year, and the reigning President's trophy winners for the past 2 years may limp into the playoffs. I'm not sure if CHI or ANA will be too comfortable playing us regardless of how we are playing in the regular season.

As Canucks fans, I think we all know that the regular season means nothing, as long as we make the playoffs. If we do finish 7th or 8th, and get Kesler (and Booth) back for the playoffs, we are still capable of competing with anyone in the Western Conference. Add a few depth players, and possibly sort out our goaltending issues, and we are THAT team.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:26 PM

I hope so, This entire season has been a bit of a write off. Without Kesler the team cannot live up to its potential. I think we still have a juggernaut team when healthy. God help us if Kesler goes down with another injury before the playoffs.

Simply put, yes we could play the underdogs come the end of april, but first we have to MAKE the playoffs.

Couple games against Avelanche, Columbus, Edmonton coming up, hopefully that can be a jumpstart for the team.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:27 PM

well let's count the IFs in there:
-Kesler is back to his old form (hmm after three major surgeries in two years?)
-Booth is back to the player he was before the Richards hit
-we sort out the goaltending issue
-we add depth players.

And you left out, we find a third line center and we don't have any more injuries. Well, do you feel lucky?
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:28 PM

I think we have the talent to be THAT team, but the differenct between us this year and CHI/LA previous years is that CHI/LA had all their players primed and ready to go whereas if we do get Kes and Booth back just before playoffs there will be rust that they need to shake off. Remember, out 2nd line center has almost missed a calender year of hockey. We can definitley be THAT team if everyone's back and healthy a few weeks before playoffs, but it all comes down to timing really.
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THIS:

 

Lecavalier had a terrible season and was flamed into submission for his poor play.

 

Yet, only 1 player on the Canucks scored more goals than him. That 1 player had 5 more goals (6 more points) but played 8 more games, averaged 6 and a half more minutes of ice a game, and took 107 more shots on net.

 

Kind of speaks volumes to how ugly the Canucks play was this past season.

 


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:28 PM

well let's count the IFs in there:
-Kesler is back to his old form (hmm after three major surgeries in two years?)
-Booth is back to the player he was before the Richards hit
-we sort out the goaltending issue
-we add depth players.

And you left out, we find a third line center and we don't have any more injuries. Well, do you feel lucky?


You need to be lucky to win the Cup. LA was lucky. Boston was lucky. Chicago was lucky. Pittsburgh was lucky. Detroit was lucky.

LA had just as many IF's going into the playoffs last year as well.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:30 PM

LA had young assets and a bold gm not afraid to make a move. They were determined, were underachievers
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:32 PM

did u watch chicago play against us

they had how many breakaways and how many 2 on 1s???


lol
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:33 PM

We look more like the San Diego Chargers of the NHL. Basically the San Jose Sharks, whatevers in the water down there, has flowed upstream.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:33 PM

You need to be lucky to win the Cup. LA was lucky. Boston was lucky. Chicago was lucky. Pittsburgh was lucky. Detroit was lucky.

LA had just as many IF's going into the playoffs last year as well.

The only IF for LA last year was WHEN. all the pieces were there once the coach was changed
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:34 PM

Interesting viewpoint.

I agree to a certain extent, although LA was hot going into the playoffs, we need to atleast get some confidence and go in on sort of a roll. Even if it isn't a major hot streak.

We also need another center.

Although if we can do those things then I like our chances alot more.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:38 PM

I appreciate the attempt at optimism, but... no.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

you need depth, something that LA has/had, something we don't have.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

LA had Quick, Doughty and Kopitar. Great young players at major positions getting better and better.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:44 PM

you need depth, something that LA has/had, something we don't have.



and skill
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:45 PM

well lets see... Gillis does like to follow what the last camps did... Boston wins get big and tough and less skilled.... LA wins the cup by just getting into the playoffs and now we might just get in to the playoffs.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:48 PM

Our top 6 sucks and we don't have a Norris caliber blueliner, combined with under-performing goalies and you have a crapty team. But even with the roster we have now, we should still be able to EASILY walk away with the NW division.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:50 PM

DEPTH DEPTH DEPTH, we sure have a lot of 3rd and 4th liners on this team..... frack depth we need a dominant player that can carry this team when the Sedin's aren't.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:50 PM

Our top 6 sucks and we don't have a Norris caliber blueliner, combined with under-performing goalies and you have a crapty team. But even with the roster we have now, we should still be able to EASILY walk away with the NW division.


Soooooooo crapty..
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:54 PM

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:54 PM

DEPTH DEPTH DEPTH, we sure have a lot of 3rd and 4th liners on this team..... frack depth we need a dominant player that can carry this team when the Sedin's aren't.


We have Kesler as that player....
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:58 PM

We have Kesler as that player....

oh yea, 3 major reconstructive surgeries in 2 years: shoulder, hip and wrist, that's going to work out well.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:01 AM

Nope, unless we get another top six forward, right handed top six dman, and a bottom six centre ( and Maybe another depth winger if Booth doesnt return).

Clowe, Engelland, Torres, and Smith would be great.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:02 AM

You really think that if Vancouver got seeded 8th that they could beat Chicago if they were 1? Yikes.

This is not the same team that beat them in 2011, not even close. No depth, lackluster goaltending, out of sync defense, weak powerplay, streaky goal scoring by the top 6, etc. etc. Those are just the obvious problems, not even going to touch whatever character/emotional issues the Canucks have this season.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:03 AM

Hopefully what you say comes true. That said though, Schneider or Lu would have to be ON FIRE to get it done, and everyone would need to be in sync and greatly physical.

Brown - Kopitar - Carter (similar set-up but this line's much bigger than Twins - Burr, and also better finishers)
Penner - Richards - Williams (Booth/ Kassian = Penner? Kesler's similar to Richards but we have no Williams)
King - Stoll - Lewis (no shutdown 3rd line center (Higgins?), Kassian/ Booth could be King, Hansen can play the Lewis role)
Clifford - Fraser - Nolan (Sestito - Lapierre - Pinizzotto should get it done)

Mitchell - Doughty (shutdown guy-wise we're similar but no Dought Bieksa's not Drew)
Scuderi - Voynov (different styles really, Edler and Garrison are more offensive)
Martinez - Greene (Ballard - Tanev; Chris is undersized for the shutdown role; Martinez might be better than Ballard)

Not saying the talent's not there but it'll happen differently IMO.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:07 AM

LA wasn't missing its entire 2nd line for the whole season.

LA wasn't one giant defensive gaffe (had best GAA in NHL).

There is no similarities in these two teams.

If AV gets canned, perhaps theres one similarity.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:18 AM

Far too many ifs to be "that team"...

This team is missing depth and sadly skilled players that can create a spark; sadly were below an average team at this moment... just look at our stats, we have not been the same team since the play off run two yars ago and our management hasnt done anything to fix this
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:21 AM

I remember it quite clearly last year... LA and SJ were in a battle for 8th spot.
Most people (myself included) were hoping SJ would take 8th place because LA had 'sleeping giant syndrome', and they could wake up at any time (and we all know that they did wake up in the playoffs).

Fast forward to this year, and the reigning President's trophy winners for the past 2 years may limp into the playoffs. I'm not sure if CHI or ANA will be too comfortable playing us regardless of how we are playing in the regular season.

As Canucks fans, I think we all know that the regular season means nothing, as long as we make the playoffs. If we do finish 7th or 8th, and get Kesler (and Booth) back for the playoffs, we are still capable of competing with anyone in the Western Conference. Add a few depth players, and possibly sort out our goaltending issues, and we are THAT team.


If we get a new coach like LA did then yes we could be "that" team.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:27 AM

All the 8th seeded team in the playoffs think they are THAT team....lol
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:27 AM

no we're not that team at all. lol
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:29 AM

If the team's mentality and strategy stays this way, there's no way we are that team.
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