RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Poor argument here, could ask you, How did the coaching change in LA work out? But would be a weak rebutal at best, as one has nothing to do with the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 In a playoff position and with the same amount of points as the third seed. Sorry, if I'm not part of the Chicken Little crowd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The scary thing is the teams we beat had their 2nd or third strings in net. I guess Kessler should be back soon but it won't make a difference. This team is missing a lot. Even though it's missing a lot, they still have enough talent to compete but it hasn't shown. Gillis is part to blame too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Proven wrong? he had nobody left against the Bruins. This whole idea of "the team lost, so that proves I'm right" is why I can never take your opinion as anything more than whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Actually, the comment was directed at the "look how it worked out for LA and Pittsburgh" crowd and was designed to show that change for change's sake is just as likely to fail as succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 i don't think Howard, Niemi or Bobrovsky are 2nd or 3rd stringers. However, all three have outplayed the Canucks' goaltenders of late. The Canucks have pretty consistently outshot their opponents during the last while, but for whatever reason, are not burying their chances while their goaltending is not making the timely save. (The Nashville game being the exception on all fronts) If this were not the case, then I'd be concerned about the coach having lost the room and the team lacking effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 And constantly giving AV a free pass because of injuries is simply making excuses for him. He got badly outcoached against the hawks in round 1 that year with all hands on deck so your argument is simply wrong. He had lots of guys left.....unfortunately his decisions throughout the entire season to destroy the confidence of some of them and not get them ready to step in and contribute is his own fault......and is exactly my point. Other teams seems to withstand serious injuries to key players and have others step in and contribute. Because their coaches get the most out of the entire 23 man roster instead of having to rely on injured players.....AV plays a guy 25 minutes with a busted shoulder or a broken hand while he has guys in the press box or in the minors who have had their confidence shattered throughout the season. Of course they aren't ready to step in - because the coach made sure they wouldn't be able to by playing favorites...Most definitely good and potential cup winning personnel decisions to be able to withstand injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 i don't think Howard, Niemi or Bobrovsky are 2nd or 3rd stringers. However, all three have outplayed the Canucks' goaltenders of late. The Canucks have pretty consistently outshot their opponents during the last while, but for whatever reason, are not burying their chances while their goaltending is not making the timely save. (The Nashville game being the exception on all fronts) If this were not the case, then I'd be concerned about the coach having lost the room and the team lacking effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron_Gland Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 AV shouldn't have been here after last year's debacle, which in my opinion started before the playoffs. Daniel Sedin goes out with a concussion with about 10 games left. AV & group assume he'll be back by Game 1 of the playoffs since concussions have known to be pretty black and white when it comes to return dates (!!!), so what does he do in the remaining time? Put Lapierre on Henrik Sedin's line along with a bunch of other line combinations. And guess what, there was a bit of chemistry and the team played well for the most part. So what happens when the playoffs start? Lappy never see's the ice with Henrik Sedin even when it was found Daniel was out for longer. Booth gets thrown in last minute and the line shows near zero chemistry. If the plan was to play Booth with Henrik anyway, WHY NOT GIVE THEM 10 REGULAR SEASON GAMES TO GEL? Why on earth would you throw them together in the playoffs and hope your new line combination works? Why when it wasn't working did you not give Lappy a chance with Henrik? I understand you needed centres so doing that was probably not the best idea, but then why waste (majority of) 10 regular season games with them playing together if you had no intention of keeping them on the same line? That collosus mistake, along with 'assuming' Daniel would be back should have gotten AV fired. He almost seemed irked that Daniel wasn't ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk diggler Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Lindy Ruff is a poor choice. He's never won the Cup and his credentials/success in the NHL is on par with AV. Canucks need someone younger with new, flexible ideas and an overwhelming passion for the game. A winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dildo Faggins Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Brown should also be on the hot seat as well, since he's responsible for the PP, which has been abysmal this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 And constantly giving AV a free pass because of injuries is simply making excuses for him. He got badly outcoached against the hawks in round 1 that year with all hands on deck so your argument is simply wrong. He had lots of guys left.....unfortunately his decisions throughout the entire season to destroy the confidence of some of them and not get them ready to step in and contribute is his own fault......and is exactly my point. Other teams seems to withstand serious injuries to key players and have others step in and contribute. Because their coaches get the most out of the entire 23 man roster instead of having to rely on injured players.....AV plays a guy 25 minutes with a busted shoulder or a broken hand while he has guys in the press box or in the minors who have had their confidence shattered throughout the season. Of course they aren't ready to step in - because the coach made sure they wouldn't be able to by playing favorites...Most definitely good and potential cup winning personnel decisions to be able to withstand injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Agreed. He does a great job at killing some of his players confidence. Ballard was playing good for us and in my opinion should have been given a chance on the powerplay. Ballard was suppose to take over for Ehrhoff and he was never given a real chance. Why not put Ballard and Garrisson at the point on the powerplay? Ballard has good offensive skill for a dman. Now he's in press box. The other thing with AV that drives me nuts is that he has his favourites. That's not how you run a succesfull company. Edler has played worse than Ballard and he's in the lineup and on top of that he's on the 1st pp unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Look at a lot of the shots though.....from the perimeter right into the glove or the crest. They are not generating a ton of quality scoring chances with all those shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Lindy Ruff is a poor choice. He's never won the Cup and his credentials/success in the NHL is on par with AV. Canucks need someone younger with new, flexible ideas and an overwhelming passion for the game. A winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 ` You are correct Gilli splayed in the NHL but only barely. Perhaps his and AV's pro hockey careers/playing style, explain their passion for project players and mid-level two-way checkers. Nothing like creating a masterpiece in your own image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferlands_Head Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 The Canucks haven't been good since our BIG win against the Bruins last year. We've been on a downward slide. Yes we lost Daniel for pretty much the playoffs but I don't think it would of made that much of a difference. Our pp continues to not get it done and we spend over $5 mill for a guy with a cannon and he sits on the bench while Hamhuis misses the net on the pp. The Penguins and Kings made a big coaching change and won the cup. I think the perfect guy for this team is Lindy Ruff. I think he could be the guy to help us win the big trophy. The Canucks need a kick in the a** to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 Where did you get the idea that Ballard was supposed to replace Ehrhoff? The guy had 1 point in 21 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I don't change for just the point of making a change works. I think change should be made when a team continues to underachieve. The fans and the owners invest too much money and time to these teams, that we all deserve better. This has been an ongoing problem with the Canucks for the past year and half. The other thing is if you think Ruff is the guy that can bring you to the promise land, you make that move. I'm not saying he's the guy but if that's who upper management thinks is the guy they should act. Gillis typically thinks outside the box and he hasn't ever had his guy as the coach. He inherited Av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia2006 Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share Posted March 18, 2013 I didn't even think they had a good game vs Boston they were lucky to get 4ppg and had nothing 5on 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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