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The real reason for our spot in the standings.

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Hmm, that's actually quite interesting. Good find. I still don't think this is why we suck, but it's definitely a contributing factor.

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The real reason is lack of wins, the Luongo thing is affecting the team more than anyone wants to admit, and we miss Kesler...lack of scoring and other teams being more prepared.

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Interesting stats, I didn’t know that we had such a good record against the east in that last few years. Unfortunately, in the playoffs (except the SCF), we are going to have to figure out how to beat the teams in the west as well. That will not change regardless of how many regular season games we play against eastern teams.

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Thanks knoxdown, that does make me feel a bit better. Now what sort of stats do you have that point towards this team starting to play with a bit more fire?

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So... the real reason we aren't winning more is we don't play any of the Eastern teams?

Ok, kidding aside, I'd seen the stats before about how we fair against each conference and each division. Only this year are we feasting more on our own division significantly more than the other teams we play so it generally has been a false argument. We have benefited this year from that though, and done more poorly against other teams. It may be just injuries, but could also be play of the healthy players, coaching, or any number of things contributing.

All we have to do now is make a superthread of all the threads where CDC'ers say they think they know what's wrong and do them - that'll fix everything, right?

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Interesting find, thanks for posting!

I knew we did well vs east teams, but had no idea it was that good

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I appreciate the argument you put forward, but right off the top I can see that roughly 66.66% of teh points in games against the east were captured by the Canucks over the last four years on average...so what was it against the west in those years? it is a comparison thing that counts.

My guess is 59% maybe 57%...so the difference is a ten % boost in points from the east vs points from the west...and in a 36 point season, like last year, against the east that is 3.6 points total..next year if it is indeed 30 games against the east, and it looks to be, then we are talking about a 6 point uptick over the course of the 60 point eastern games.

Again I like your stuff, good post, but when your talking about relative win ..east vs west..you need to put in the west stats too or its open to skewing to fit the narative.

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Thanks knoxdown, that does make me feel a bit better. Now what sort of stats do you have that point towards this team starting to play with a bit more fire?

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It's not the coach, it's the players not performing and Gillis not pulling the trigger on a trade.

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I knew we did well vs east teams, but had no idea it was that good

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That is a good point..... but still, it isn't "the real reason" why the Canucks are down in the standings.

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gillis is trying to make moves but you have to have willing partners..in making trades, they have to determine which players could help this team. will they fit into our cap and what do others teams want for those players? when the right deal presents it's self, gillis will pull the trigger....how stupid would it be to give up a second round pick and mason raymond for a ufa that would only be a rental?

for all those that are saying gillis refuses to make trades, he is trying not to make a bad trade.

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I appreciate the argument you put forward, but right off the top I can see that roughly 66.66% of teh points in games against the east were captured by the Canucks over the last four years on average...so what was it against the west in those years? it is a comparison thing that counts.

My guess is 59% maybe 57%...so the difference is a ten % boost in points from the east vs points from the west...and in a 36 point season, like last year, against the east that is 3.6 points total..next year if it is indeed 30 games against the east, and it looks to be, then we are talking about a 6 point uptick over the course of the 60 point eastern games.

Again I like your stuff, good post, but when your talking about relative win ..east vs west..you need to put in the west stats too or its open to skewing to fit the narative.

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The real reason why the Canucks are down in the standings is...................... wait there is no reason, it's because of nothing

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Only this year are we feasting more on our own division significantly more than the other teams we play

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