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#61 n00bxQb

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:11 PM

He must be very young

He's been a member of the forum since 2003. He can't be THAT young unless he joined when he was 5.

Odds are the OP is just uneducated.
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#62 canacks1970

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

Wha????I usually don'tread your posts, this is why






+1 MG knows how to hitch a ride on the (Burke/Nonuts) coat tail express





Just like Burke winning the cup with the Ducks. Didn't he benefit from the previous regime?
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:14 PM

Honestly people many people on this board sometimes! A few small spelling mistakes, big deal. I posted this from my iPhone and did not proof it correctly and so many complaints. Did I not get my question across? I have been a member on this site for what ten years. So annoying it makes me want to stop posting

If you want to be taken seriously, take your original post seriously. Clearly you didn't otherwise you would have proofread it.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:09 PM

Just like Burke winning the cup with the Ducks. Didn't he benefit from the previous regime?


Burke inherited a pretty good team. But that team was not going anywhere without the two Norris winning defenceman he brought in.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

If you want to be taken seriously, take your original post seriously. Clearly you didn't otherwise you would have proofread it.


Apparently my post received much response, so go shove it if you have such a problem with my spelling. And BTW I have a degree in business and own and run two million dollar business's in Vancouver. Yourself ? I am taken seriously everyday with my bank account. Also a season ticket holder. Yourself?
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:55 PM

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:03 PM

Apparently my post received much response, so go shove it if you have such a problem with my spelling. And BTW I have a degree in business and own and run two million dollar business's in Vancouver. Yourself ? I am taken seriously everyday with my bank account. Also a season ticket holder. Yourself?


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

You should add Volpatti and Pahlsson to "notable net losses".

Add Malhotra to gains.


I'd agree with you that they were notable losses and gains, but Gillis signed Volpatti and traded for Pahlsson - they weren't inherited from before.

Malhotra I'll add since he's still part of the team. Thanks!
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Wow I can't believe peoples replies...
Im done here. You people are disgusting..


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:26 PM

Apparently my post received much response, so go shove it if you have such a problem with my spelling. And BTW I have a degree in business and own and run two million dollar business's in Vancouver. Yourself ? I am taken seriously everyday with my bank account. Also a season ticket holder. Yourself?

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

:lol:


Apparently you had no response. Myself I live and breathe sports. It is my hobby. I follow all sports religiously. I support the love of the game. I don't wait to find an opportunity to bash another who takes passion in sport also. What bothers me so much about this board and after ten or years I have never said it before, is that all this board does is bash each other. And never holds fun discussion about the game they are supposed to love. Sorry if I spelled wrong, or spoke up. But Canucks board, at least allow your members to edit their posts. And this is really the worst place to post ever. Good night. Go Canucks forever my team. Good night from a Vancouverite! Oh did I spell it all right. Better tripple check, oh whoops triple spelt wrong, oh is whoops even a word, !)z
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:11 AM

Gillis is really bad at trading, thats no secret. But out of all of Gillis shortcomings, what stands out the most is the horrible way he has mismanaged the LU situation....

I cannot imagine another GM in the league, would at the very least tie up so much cap space in a backup goalie, And despite the brave face create an uncomfortable situation that has affected the goalies play (numbers dont lie)

patience has its limits.

He also came into the season, with ebbett as his number 1 choice AHL callup, which makes the Luongo situation even more baffling..


the deciding factor should be the TO trade. IF toronto, in any capacity offered gillis KAdri for LU, and gillis rejected. That should get him fired.


Another prime sedin season might get wasted with gillis twiddling with his thumb, And "patiently" waiting for the right sucker to offer him 5 first round picks, a top 6 forward,prospects and a backup goalie for his aging backup goalie with an albatross contract.

Edited by sam13371337, 23 March 2013 - 09:13 AM.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:15 AM

Burke inherited a pretty good team. But that team was not going anywhere without the two Norris winning defenceman he brought in.


Scottie was complaining that Gillis was riding on Burkie's coat and that's was the point Shazzam.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 09:35 AM

MG in my mind gets wat too much credit. What has he really done. Re-sign the Sedins and Burrows. They would sign anyhow. Eerhoff deal was good at the time. What else? Trade all our prospects. Sign bad deals? He inheritated his team in my mind. And please don't comment brought to SC final. Like I said the team was inherited. His moves since have shown what we have on the ice now. AHL quality forwards. Time for a change Gillis your done

Can anyone essemble a list.?



Stop making threads please. First of all when any GM takes over a team he inherited the team. Is Higgins and Lapierre deals bad? Did he not sign Hamus? Go troll the Flames board, you would fit in there better.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:17 AM

Stop making threads please. First of all when any GM takes over a team he inherited the team. Is Higgins and Lapierre deals bad? Did he not sign Hamus? Go troll the Flames board, you would fit in there better.


its rare that a GM inherits sucha a strong core..

its even rarer for a GM to BARELY add anything to it in 5 years, and somehow take all the credit for it?

when burke inherited a strong core in anahiem, he immidiatly added the right peices to it and got them a cup

also, Could you honestly imagine gillis being able to pull off what burke did, and steal the sedins out of the worst NHL draft talent pool in recent memory?

not that im saying lets get burke back, or burke was perfect.. But i think gillis is EXTREMELY overrated, even when compared to his direct predecessors

Edited by sam13371337, 23 March 2013 - 10:18 AM.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:25 AM

Think after 5 years of being here it is fair that we have a discussion regarding MG. He has made a fair number of trades, most looking not so good. His drafting isnt stellar but we cant say hes the worst. I would have liked to have seen atleast of couple of guys make more of an impact on this roster through the draft, as other teams who draft low have been able to do that.

I think he has played this goalie situation out the wrong way. When he gave Schneider his deal that was the final straw, Yet he didnt complete a trade and now Schneids is always going to have that veteran former#1 goalie, vezina Candidate, Cup finalist net minder behind him. I would say that would have some impact on Cory. As if he were to have a bad game or 2 he is automatically on the bench and has sat twice already this season for 4 games straight. I dont believe thats the correct thing to do. Let Cory work on his game and improve, let him play after he has a not so good game or 2 show him you have faith in him.

I also didnt like how the team, from management to coaching dealt with Hodgsons injury. It may have not changed how he felt and that he wanted out from the team, but when the coach called out your best most talented prospect out infront of the media and saying he wasnt injured, I think that is bad management. I would never want that to happen to my best prospect and I would have talked to the coach and then came out publicly and stated that AV was wrong in saying what he did, and we are only looking for Cody to get back to 100% health and if he gets another opinion we stand behind him.

MG has lost more trades than he has won. I would hope he is active this deadline, yes the price may be higher to acquire certain players, but in all honestly we have a very good team and we need to try to win a CUP now and not worry so much about not wanting to add a certain pick/prospect or player to make a deal happen. Because, if it means we can win a cup with that addition, I will be a very happy Canuck fan and wont care about the cost of winning a cup.

I'd also like to see MG look at his coaching staff and evaluate it. If we dont have good success this post season I think that a coaching change is needed.

All in all, I havent given up on MG as a GM, But from now till the draft and early FA is going to be huge for him to determine how long he stays. Time to put your stamp on this team, and unfortunately that probably means your going to have to trade the elite goalie you inherited to try and improve your team, ideally before the deadline so we can try to get something to help us win now
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:29 AM

He built the most skilled team the NHL has seen in about 3 or 4 decades which really should of won a Cup. It didn't, he learned from this mistake (hardly his fault) and is now adapting the Canucks to a team that is more likely to win a Cup in today's NHL - a bigger, stronger, more physical team.

Since being here here's the big moves that turns our small, fragile team into a physical playoff-ready force:

Lost Mitchell but obtained Hamhuis and Ballard.
Lost Ehrhoff and Salo but obtained Garrison, Vandermeer and Barker.
All up our defence has gone from a quite old, fragile one to a defence in it's prime who all play the game hard and battle. This doesn't show in the regular season, but that sort of defence wins cups in the playoffs.

Up front, lost Samuelsson, Grabner and Hodgson.
Obtained Higgins, Lapierre, Booth, Kassian - all powerforwards that complement our skilled guys like the Sedins, Burrows and Raymond quite well. Cup winners have the perfect mix of skill, size and speed and MG has moulded this all-skill team into a much more balanced one akin to those teams that have hoisted the Cup.


Wow man take off your homer glasses...

Most skilled CANUCKS team in last 3-4 decades. Not even top 50 most skilled teams in the league though lol..


Hahaha man that made me laugh, gretzkys oilers, lemieuxs penguins, Orr's bruins, beliveaus canadiens, bossys islanders, .., dare i say it... Even messiers rangers were more skilled.

Hell the Blackhawks this season are better than the 2011 canucks.. I love my team but come on man...

Lol i cant stop laughing



Now as for the OP... This deadline/draft/off season will make or break Gillis, so far he has done a good job without doing a whole lot.

I also think these myths that he can't make trades, no other gms respect him from his agent days.. Blabla... Are reficulous.

How do any of you naysayers know that???


The moronic speculation on this message board never ceases to amaze..

Edited by frazzY, 23 March 2013 - 10:38 AM.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:31 AM

He better find some black mailing photos on Shanahan or were getting hosed again this playoffs.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:44 AM

MG has put together the best Canuck team of all-time and for that he deserves credit. As far as drafting we won't know for another 5 years how well he is doing.
An analysis after 5 yrs is a excellent topic for discussion.
* Financial - A.
Has signed core players to below market money allowing for best cap usage.
* Player Personnel - A
Has brought in quality complementary forwards Demitra, Sundin, Samuelsson, Malhotra, Torres, Higgins, Lapierre and Booth for next to nothing. On defense Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Ballard, Garrison also for next to nothing.
* Staff - C+
I'm not even a AV fan but I do recognize the fact he is a good coach. Brown, Bowness, Melanson, Henning, Arniel etc seem to be doing a decent job as far as most can tell. Drafting is hard to tell at this point but Hodgson ( Kassian ), Schroeder, Tanev is a good start.
* Misc. - A
sleep doctor's, nutritionists, prospect development plans, community work and team culture.
* Results - B+
While the optimum goal has still not been obtained 2 Presidents Trophies and a game 7 Stanley Cup final are as close as it gets. If we can keep knocking on the door you like to think that we will get there sometime. Pending cap issues and goalie trade will be big moves coming soon that will help define MG's tenure.
I for one believe the job MG has done is excellent. The core of this teams ages will make the coming years extremely difficult to stay at the top but I think we're in good hands as Canuck fans.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

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While normally I&#39;d make fun of your inability to spell, I was kind of interested in looking at this a bit as well.<br />
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<span style='font-size: 18px;'><strong>Notable Net Losses:</strong></span><ul class='bbc'><li>Grabner - Trade</li><li>Mitchell - UFA</li><li>Morrison - UFA</li><li>Naslund - UFA</li><li>Linden - Retired</li><li>O&#39;Brien - Trade for Parent (aka nothing)</li><li>Shannon - Trade for nothing</li><li>Pyatt - UFA</li><li>2010 1st rounder (Ballard)</li><li>2010 2nd (Bernier)</li><li>2009 3rd (Bernier)</li><li>2010 3rd (Alberts</li><li>2011 3rd (Higgins)</li><li>2012 4th (Pahlsson)</li><li>misc 5th+ rounders</li><li>Rypien(RIP)</li><li>Bourdon(RIP)</li><li>Mike Brown - Trade (for nothing)</li><li>Hodgson - Trade</li><li>Salo - UFA</li><li>Ohlund - UFA</li></ul><span style='font-size: 18px;'><strong>Notable Net Gain:</strong></span><br />
<ul class='bbc'><li>Booth - Trade</li><li>Garrison - FA</li><li>Hamhuis - FA</li><li>Tanev - College UFA</li><li>Ballard - Trade</li><li>Barker - FA</li><li>Alberts - Trade</li><li>Kassian - Trade</li><li>Ebbett - FA</li><li>Pinizotto - FA</li><li>Higgins - Trade</li><li>Lapierre - Trade</li><li>Schroeder - Draft</li><li>Weise - Waiver Claim</li><li>Malhotra - UFA (thanks &#39;-Trapped In CDC-&#39;)</li></ul>Notable Draft Picks:<br />
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<strike>Cody Hodgson - 2008 1st</strike><br />
Yann Sauve - 2008 2nd<br />
Jordan Schroeder - 2009 1st<br />
Kevin Connauton - 2009 3rd<br />
Joe Cannata - 2009 6th<br />
Alex Friesen - 2010 6th<br />
Nicklas Jensen - 2011 1st<br />
Alexander Grenier - 2011 3rd<br />
Frank Corrado - 2011 5th<br />
Brendan Gaunce - 2012 1st<br />
Alexandre Mallet - 2012 2nd<br />
Ben Hutton - 2012 3rd<br />
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In the end we lost (bold aren&#39;t playing in NHL anymore):<ul class='bbc'><li>THREE top 4 D men (2 shut down and 1 two way) <strong>(1 not playing)</strong></li><li>A #5 or 6 big body D man</li><li><strong>A 2nd line center, 2nd line winger</strong></li><li>Two 3rd line wingers <strong>(1 not playing)</strong></li><li><strong>Two 4th line wingers</strong></li><li><strong>A depth forward</strong></li><li><strong>An elite young defense prospect (1st rounder)</strong></li><li>An elite young center prospect (1st rounder)</li><li>A top winger prospect (1st rounder)</li><li><span style='font-size: 24px;'>SIX </span>picks 4th round or higher (excluding 3rd/4th picks received and then re-traded away)</li></ul>in exchange we got:<ul class='bbc'><li>THREE top 4 two-way defensemen AND a prospect top 4 defenseman</li><li>Two depth defensemen</li><li>A 3rd line winger and a 2nd/3rd line winger</li><li>Two 4th line centers, a 4th line winger</li><li>2 depth forwards</li><li>An elite young power forward prospect</li></ul>Plus:<ul class='bbc'><li>The core of our team re-signed to contracts that are manageable and stable.</li><li>Stable management group, changes as Gillis saw fit</li><li>A &quot;no stone left unturned&quot; ethos when it comes to supporting the players and giving them the best chance possible to win on the ice, with their preparation and planning off the ice</li></ul>-------------<br />
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You can go through it transaction by transaction and see that he wins some undisputed-ly (e.g. Higgins/Lappy/Hamhuis/Samuelsson) and loses some (e.g. losing Grabner/1st/Bernier for Ballard). There were lots of transactions in the middle, as the team evolved and different things were tried (e.g. Sundin, Demitra) - but in the end, looking at what we had compared to where we are now as a result of the changes he&#39;s made is probably most important.<br />
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In general he&#39;s allowed our previous younger players grow into larger roles, and has surrounded them with better role players than in the past - with the exception of defense, which only has Bieksa/Edler from before Gillis. Still, both of these players were signed to deals to keep them here because they were identified as valuable to the future (v.s. Ohlund/Salo due to age, Mitchell due to potential concussion issues... even though he won a cup 2 years later)<br />
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*may have missed someone you think is notable. either its a mistake or i just didn&#39;t think it was a big enough deal, mike weaver!<br />

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This is why I still come to CDC, every once in awhile you find quality posts. The OP should delete her drivel and cut and paste GushyBears in its place.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:45 AM

Here's another. You'll find that there are plenty.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:46 AM

Here's another. You'll find that there are plenty.


Yeah but you have to go back two months. And then they lock the thread because you are bringing back old topics
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:47 AM

I posted about this a day ago and it got locked.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:48 AM

Stop making threads please. First of all when any GM takes over a team he inherited the team. Is Higgins and Lapierre deals bad? Did he not sign Hamus? Go troll the Flames board, you would fit in there better.

YA THEY ALL SUCK
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#84 TOMapleLaughs

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:49 AM

Yeah but you have to go back two months. And then they lock the thread because you are bringing back old topics

Probably.

But don't fret. We'll have ALL SUMMER to knock heads about the entire team, Gillis on down.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:39 AM

Get this guy out of vancouver before the draft before he messes up any trades at the draft
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:17 PM

The Canucks need an overhaul now. Ever since Gillis has been here all he has done is tinker with the line-up with the exception of the Cody Hodgson Zack Kassian trade.

Does anyone have faith that Gillis can pull off the big moves necessary to rejuvenate this franchise? His track record suggests he can't do it. According to him this team was just as good as the one that almost won the cup yet almost all his moves since that cup run have been failures.

The Canucks need a real hockey man in town to turn this franchise around. A guy like Brian Burke. Gillis has proven he is in over his head as GM.

Edited by gradin123, 06 May 2013 - 01:18 PM.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:22 PM

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:26 PM

I think he's done a pretty good job. over the pat 5 years, less then a handful of teams have performed as consistently as us. As a GM a trade might look on paper when the trade is done, but it might not look as good after. We can't see that happening and it's hard. Give him credit, as he's achieved by far more then any other Canuck gm in team history.

That being said this is a crucial summer for him. As the team he's built as gone 1-8 in the last 2 playoffs. I'm interested to see how he reacts to this years epic failure of all proportion. Then we judge his moves come september.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:45 PM

MG has put together the best Canuck team of all-time and for that he deserves credit. As far as drafting we won't know for another 5 years how well he is doing.
An analysis after 5 yrs is a excellent topic for discussion.
* Financial - A.
Has signed core players to below market money allowing for best cap usage.
* Player Personnel - A
Has brought in quality complementary forwards Demitra, Sundin, Samuelsson, Malhotra, Torres, Higgins, Lapierre and Booth for next to nothing. On defense Ehrhoff, Hamhuis, Ballard, Garrison also for next to nothing.
* Staff - C+
I'm not even a AV fan but I do recognize the fact he is a good coach. Brown, Bowness, Melanson, Henning, Arniel etc seem to be doing a decent job as far as most can tell. Drafting is hard to tell at this point but Hodgson ( Kassian ), Schroeder, Tanev is a good start.
* Misc. - A
sleep doctor's, nutritionists, prospect development plans, community work and team culture.
* Results - B+
While the optimum goal has still not been obtained 2 Presidents Trophies and a game 7 Stanley Cup final are as close as it gets. If we can keep knocking on the door you like to think that we will get there sometime. Pending cap issues and goalie trade will be big moves coming soon that will help define MG's tenure.
I for one believe the job MG has done is excellent. The core of this teams ages will make the coming years extremely difficult to stay at the top but I think we're in good hands as Canuck fans.


Financial? How about the Luongo contract?And, how about Drafting??!! Unfortunately the youth cupboard is bare.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 04:56 PM

I think the problem is that Mike Gillis was a better agent than GM. He is approaching building this team with his head in the books.

On paper, with previous player stats etc.., this team SHOULD win. However, just 'cause stats say one thing, does not mean chemistry is there.

Seems to me that while the core of this team is the same (sedins, kesler, etc.), we have had some peripheral player changes (lost erhoff, salo, glass, torres and so on in favour of Roy, Sestito, Ebbett, and so on). It seemed like even when we ran out of gas against Boston, the guys really cared about eachother; had fun.

What I see today as a fan at the games, and on TV, is a group of players that make sense on paper, but in real life, don't gel well at all.

Gillis has to look up from the books and see that some heart & soul combined with crazy characters would work better than what he has assembled.
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