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#1 TheCammer

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:29 PM

Last year many of those not in the Mike Gillis camp made posts on the CDC about the Gillis not making any bold moves like some other GM's. One of the examples given by many of these Gillis naysayers at the time was Paul Holmgrem and his lack of fear in making big changes in Philadelphia.

They said "Holmgrem recognized Philly's problems and dealt with it swiftly and decisively with a bevy of trades" and felt Gillis' efforts paled in comparison.

Well how has that worked for Philly?

They look like a team just about to pack it in for the year and miss the playoffs. Arguably there was some success based on these moves, Bryzgalov added a terrific degree of comedy to the 24/7 series and the Kings won the cup with a couple of players Holmgrem moved. Good work!!!

I personally prefer the slow and steady course our GM follows than one that makes trades like he is playing NHL 13. Has everything been good with Gillis? No, of course not but in comparison to all that have come before him in Vancouver where snap and poor planning decisions cost us any opportunity to thrive as a franchise. I think we have an innovative GM that is looking for ways to make this team successful now but also in the future.

Naysayers, be careful what you wish for.

Edited by TheCammer, 27 March 2013 - 03:30 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:32 PM

well.. doesn't really need to open a seperate post for it... but those people are confused the word "bold moves" with "stupid moves"..

nothing special... it happens every year
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

well.. doesn't really need to open a seperate post for it... but those people are confused the word "bold moves" with "stupid moves"..

nothing special... it happens every year

Meant to post this last night before the Mike "timid" Gillis post got put up today. After so many years I thought I might start a thread??? There are so many Mike Gillis threads I didn't know which was appropriate to discuss my thoughts on "Bold Moves" and how they worked out for Paul Holmgrem.

If it gets locked so be it.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:00 PM

Meant to post this last night before the Mike "timid" Gillis post got put up today. After so many years I thought I might start a thread??? There are so many Mike Gillis threads I didn't know which was appropriate to discuss my thoughts on "Bold Moves" and how they worked out for Paul Holmgrem.

If it gets locked so be it.

Yeah, generally any thread created in response to another thread usually gets locked. Doesn't matter that I prefer this one to the other one, it's just about keeping redundant threads to a minimum so the debate can all be in one place.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:04 PM

Hodgson for Kassian was a bold move and people are still giving Gillis hell for it almost a year later.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:13 PM

People want bold moves because it gives them something to talk about and it is exciting. However, those same people are quick to jump on the GM when those bold moves don't work out better for our team than the team we traded with. And then they demand another bold move be made. I mean if it's doable in a video game it must be just as easy in real life right?

It's the internet. It's where people go to pretend they can do better than professionals. Where else can you anonymously criticize everything and everyone without fear of repercussions?
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:17 PM

People want bold moves because it gives them something to talk about and it is exciting. However, those same people are quick to jump on the GM when those bold moves don't work out better for our team than the team we traded with. And then they demand another bold move be made. I mean if it's doable in a video game it must be just as easy in real life right?

It's the internet. It's where people go to pretend they can do better than professionals. Where else can you anonymously criticize everything and everyone without fear of repercussions?


It is not really about what people are 'wanting'. It was Mike Gillis himself who specifically used the term 'bold moves' to describe the course of action would take throughout his tenure when he was first hired as GM by the Canucks.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

The only bold move this organization needs to make is to fire the security at the Rog. That way we can get loud again and we'll be all set for the SCP :towel:
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:30 PM

It is not really about what people are 'wanting'. It was Mike Gillis himself who specifically used the term 'bold moves' to describe the course of action would take throughout his tenure when he was first hired as GM by the Canucks.


I'd say the Kassian trade was pretty bold. The Ballard trade was pretty bold as well. The thing is people want these trades but complain when they happen. You can't get quality without giving up quality and then it becomes unpredictable as to how it turns out. At the time of the Ballard trade before we got Hammer, it looked like a very good trade after the Panthers waived Grabner. Who was to know he would turn it around and do well in NY while Ballard is playing third pairing when he was first/second pairing when he left Florida. Even after a year people are still bashing the Kas trade every time Hodgson scores a goal.

My point is there are certain people on this board clamoring for him to make some big trade as if it was easy but they are not willing to give up much in return. It's kind of a double standard. He stated the bold moves thing in his first term but maybe after the way some of the trades worked out, he is now being more patient which I'm fine with. I'm all for the bold moves if it's a bold move worth pursuing.

I agree with the OP, be careful what you wish for.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

The only way you get a big name roster player is by trading one of your top prospects and/or 1st round picks.

I would prefer minor deals for specialty players(defensive/faceoffs) who have a chance to elevate in the playoffs.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:07 PM

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