Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Good. Guy probably deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 He wasn't restrained. He pulled his hand away when the officer tried to cuff him. Watch the video again, you can see his unrestrained arm come up as he pulls it away from the officer as he tries to cuff him. This then required the officer to employ a little playful enticement to encourage just a smidgeon of cooperation from obstinate citizen. Citizen that had been caught in the act breaking several laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 He wasn't restrained. He pulled his hand away when the officer tried to cuff him. Watch the video again, you can see his unrestrained arm come up as he pulls it away from the officer as he tries to cuff him. This then required the officer to employ a little playful enticement to encourage just a smidgeon of cooperation from obstinate citizen. Citizen that had been caught in the act breaking several laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You have police training or citizen ride along arrest training? I think if I was a trained officer and I saw a hand pulling away from me and coming at me I'd react instintively, defaulting to my basic training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooker Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Good. Guy probably deserved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common sense Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The cops have handcuffs for a reason...put them on the guy and it's a done deal. No need to hit someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trek Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Firstly, riding a bike without a helmet, stupid law in the first place. If Canada is a free country we shouldn't be having to ask our government for permission to do simple things, like bike home late at night without a helmet. Just as Americans shouldn't have to ask for permission from their government to marry someone of the same gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooker Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So what's your excuse for running a stop sign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 And that's why the cop was trying to do while the suspect was squiring around with his left hand. Throw said suspect onto the ground and some of the bleeding hearts will still cry police brutality. Like I said, this video hardly paints the entire picture. Again, doesn't matter what else happened....zero tolerance for police brutality. And if that's the only way this cop can manage the situation, then he clearly needs more training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliewud Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 All cops are looking for is cooperation and respect and this guy didn't show that. Did he deserved to be punched? No. But did he provoke the cop by pulling his hand away? YES! The cop reacted instinctively because it is necessary in their line of work. It's an extremely tough job that requires split second decision making and you guys should be thankful that these guys put their lives on the line everyday, especially considering how many self entitled scum bags there are out there. Respect the system. We live in a beautiful time right now and it has never been safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You have police training or citizen ride along arrest training? I think if I was a trained officer and I saw a hand pulling away from me and coming at me I'd react instintively, defaulting to my basic training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 All cops are looking for is cooperation and respect and this guy didn't show that. Did he deserved to be punched? No. But did he provoke the cop by pulling his hand away? YES! The cop reacted instinctively because it is necessary in their line of work. It's an extremely tough job that requires split second decision making and you guys should be thankful that these guys put their lives on the line everyday, especially considering how many self entitled scum bags there are out there. Respect the system. We live in a beautiful time right now and it has never been safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 We don't see what happened BEFORE the punch. What did the suspect do or say before the video was taken? The punch may be taken out of context. Everyone say the police should be careful with their actions but things change when a tense situation like this arises. There is an adrenaline rush that causes people to lose control, no matter what training they have. Perhaps people who criticize the police should follow in their footsteps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The cops was holding his arm behind his back, that's basically the most physically dominant position you can take when restraining someone. Unless the guy was some MMA pro, there was no way he posed a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 You don't get handcuffed for running a redlight on a bike. There is much more to the story than what is shown. I bet he mouthed off to the police, the victim is full of crap, "my arms don't bend that way"; yet he's sitting there with his hands behind his back. I'm tired of criminals acting like victims. Its simple, respect the law, respect the enforcers of the law and you wont get punched. Easy lesson to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 We don't see what happened BEFORE the punch. What did the suspect do or say before the video was taken? The punch may be taken out of context. Everyone say the police should be careful with their actions but things change when a tense situation like this arises. There is an adrenaline rush that causes people to lose control, no matter what training they have. Perhaps people who criticize the police should follow in their footsteps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 ... we are talking here about a guy on a bicycle, not some person committing a criminal offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wetcoaster Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 So this means he's not capable of violent behavior? IMHO he WAS resisting and his actions COULD be construed as threatening. I'd much sooner the officer react in self defense than end up dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 All cops are looking for is cooperation and respect and this guy didn't show that. Did he deserved to be punched? No. But did he provoke the cop by pulling his hand away? YES! The cop reacted instinctively because it is necessary in their line of work. It's an extremely tough job that requires split second decision making and you guys should be thankful that these guys put their lives on the line everyday, especially considering how many self entitled scum bags there are out there. Respect the system. We live in a beautiful time right now and it has never been safer. No one isn't thankful for cops that do their jobs. It does not, however, give a free pass for some to get it wrong. "All cops are looking for is cooperation and respect"....police shouldn't be looking for anything but suspects - they're on the job and emotion and ego shouldn't come into play. They are supposed to diffuse situations, not escalate them. Having people bow down to them has no place in that. Do you know how you get most people to comply with you?....you treat THEM with respect and dignity...it's a two way street. Attitude shouldn't be part of this from ANY side, not just the person being arrested. This cop is the one who didn't respect the system. We don't see what happened BEFORE the punch. What did the suspect do or say before the video was taken? The punch may be taken out of context. Everyone say the police should be careful with their actions but things change when a tense situation like this arises. There is an adrenaline rush that causes people to lose control, no matter what training they have. Perhaps people who criticize the police should follow in their footsteps. You're missing the point....it doesn't MATTER what was done/said, it's the cop's responsibility to address it within the boundaries of the law, not stray outside it in using violence. Physical force is one thing, boxing is another. The "adrenaline rush" and losing control is not a legitimiate reason, it's actually cause for concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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