rb4u Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Despite of what Vancouver Sun columnist believes, GMMG has more than one card left to play. http://www.vancouver...1759/story.html I believe that both Edler and Schneider are chips that can be leveraged (IN THE OFFSEASON) to reload our hockey club for can't miss prospects that can play in a Top 3 role within the next 2-3 years. I would guess that a mixture of prospects and/or draft picks would be exchanged in any deal as well. Our prospective trade partner would ideally be up to their eyebrows with young Top 6 forwards, and seeking either a young franchise goalie (Schneider) and an offensive defenceman who is capable of 40-50 pts (Edler). Both of our assets are signed to reasonable 4-5 year contracts, which should increase their value as they are not considered to be short term rentals. Off the top of my head, the potential trading partners are (in order): 1) Edmonton - an abundance of young talented forwards (Gagner, Nugent, Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Paajarvi) plus a bunch of second tiered prospects (Zharkov, Pitlick, Rieder). There is a perception that they have too many of the same type of player (skilled) and not enough grit in this mix. - a perceived lack an elite goalie prospect in their system and a game changer like Schneider would do wonders to the chances of Tamby's team making the playoffs next year - while they have a couple of young defensive prospects in Schultz and Klefbom, what they are lacking right now is a veteran who can move the puck to their skilled forwards and jump in on offence 2) Tampa Bay - a strong NHL group of forwards (Stamkos, St Louis, Lecavalier, Conacher) with a wealth of forward prospects waiting in the wings (Panik, Kucherov, Namestnikov, Johnson) - they could use another Top 2 defenceman on the team to help Salo, Carle and Hedman round up their pairings - goal prospects of Lindback (NHL 9.10 AHL 9.04 averages), Vasilevskiy (1st rounder still in Europe) so there is an immediate need next year for some stability in net which Schneider could bring. 3) Philadelphia - lack of starting goalie and any goaltending prospects in the pipeline is the weakness of this team (Bryzgalov .898, Boucher .891, Leighton .808) - a dire need on the backend since their highest scoring Dman is Timonen (he is 38) @ 19pts with the next highest player is Schenn @ 7pts. - lack of any quality prospects in the farm system, but does poses quality young forwards on its team (Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds, B. Schenn, Read) I'm not too familiar with the farm systems of all the NHL teams, so I would appreciate anyone with relevant info to add to this thread. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 There is no way Vancouver trades a top goalie like Schneider within their own divsion, especially to a team like Edmonton who is very close to challenging for top spot in the NW. Edit- also this quote comes to mind when reading the OP's post "there are three types of people in this world, those who can do math and those who can't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 No way we are trading Edler and Schneider to Edmonton unless we are absolutely robbing them blind... and how come you have three teams listed as your top 2 potential trading partners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb4u Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 No way we are trading Edler and Schneider to Edmonton unless we are absolutely robbing them blind... and how come you have three teams listed as your top 2 potential trading partners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb4u Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 There is no way Vancouver trades a top goalie like Schneider within their own divsion, especially to a team like Edmonton who is very close to challenging for top spot in the NW. Edit- also this quote comes to mind when reading the OP's post "there are three types of people in this world, those who can do math and those who can't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Here is a question for you. Would you still do a trade if was say.... Gagner or Eberle for Schenider straight up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 There is no way Vancouver trades a top goalie like Schneider within their own divsion, especially to a team like Edmonton who is very close to challenging for top spot in the NW.Edit- also this quote comes to mind when reading the OP's post "there are three types of people in this world, those who can do math and those who can't" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have never understood this mentality. You trade with whomever gives you the best return. Like as though the guy you trade away will have to exact some weird revenge against the team that dealt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb4u Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 As a GM you are trying to protect your job. The last thing you want to be remembered for is the guy who handed one of your top assests to a rival team making them into a contender. By providing the Oilers with the one or two pieces they are missing to become a contender (a startling goalie or another top 4 Dmen) the Canucks would have just made their own division alot thougher to win regardless of who they get back. Sure if the return is so much better than all the othe offers, like say Edmonton offers Eberle for Schneider and the best deal availble from an Eastern team is a 2nd round pick then yeah it makes sense to go with Edmonton but if the return if roughly the same then a GM will go with the team not in your division every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watermelons Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 No way we are trading Edler and Schneider to Edmonton unless we are absolutely robbing them blind... and how come you have three teams listed as your top 2 potential trading partners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burlinbert Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 PUCK Deadmonton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb4u Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 See that the morning radio heads have picked up on the Edler to Philly proposal. Wondering if mgt will catch wind of it too... Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFanMike Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Why would Edmonton be an ideal trade partner when they are in our division? No way we are making any major trades with them anytime soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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