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#31 Legend Killer

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:38 PM

pen had a few bad years so they manage to get Crosby, Malkin, and Staal......their wingers have not always been great

That's looking to be the same thing for Philadelphia this year.. if they get a top pick.. watch out.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:46 PM

Look at what Pittsburgh has done. Reason being is the cap comes down next year, hence why Pens were very aggressive in acquiring Iginla, Morrow and Murray. Granted Canucks don't have the assets it would take to do what Pens did. The argument can be made not to mortgage the future, but what future do we have? Aside from Jensen, we have nothing in the way of good prospects. Canucks window for winning is closing. I fully expect all Gillis will do at most is acquire a 3rd line Center and that will be it.


a lot of our prospects are playing for the club right now because of all are injurys. We have a defenseman playing forward it's so bad. We have no clue when are club is going to be 100% healthy and in game shape. I highly doubt it will be before the play-offs start. If we had a healthy team, like Pittsburgh then maybe, but to do it this year would set our club back for the future.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:57 PM

Pittsburgh drafted very well, that's the difference.


Did they? Didn't they Draft Whitney 5th overall? And besides the times they tanked and got 1st or 2nd overall (Fleury, Malkin, Staal, Crosby) They didn't draft well besides getting some gems in Talbot and Letang. They also drafted Matt moulson but didn't do anything with him.

But look at their drafting since 2007. Simon Despres has been their best prospect.
Ours since 2007 We've had Hodgson, Schroeder, Jensen, Mallett.

We've built a good team without having number 1 and 2 overall picks. with Bieksa, Kesler, Hansen, Schneider, Edler, Raymond, since 2001
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:01 PM

Did they? Didn't they Draft Whitney 5th overall? And besides the times they tanked and got 1st or 2nd overall (Fleury, Malkin, Staal, Crosby) They didn't draft well besides getting some gems in Talbot and Letang. They also drafted Matt moulson but didn't do anything with him.

But look at their drafting since 2007. Simon Despres has been their best prospect.
Ours since 2007 We've had Hodgson, Schroeder, Jensen, Mallett.

We've built a good team without having number 1 and 2 overall picks. with Bieksa, Kesler, Hansen, Schneider, Edler, Raymond, since 2001


Your missing Scott Harrington, Joe Morrow(which they traded),Beau Bennett and the list goes on.

Canucks on the other hand have sucked at the drafting stage. Corrado(2-3 years away) not really that great, Gaunce(2-3 years away) Then we trade him, and same with jensen.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:09 PM

should have tank for Stamkos in 2008
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:39 PM

judging from the fans and if gillis was to listen to these fans we would be calgary 2.0

yeah trade the future so we can be calgary 2.0

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

Canucks on the other hand have sucked at the drafting stage. Corrado(2-3 years away) not really that great, Gaunce(2-3 years away) Then we trade him, and same with jensen.


yeah Gillis really sucks at turning 18 year olds into 23 year olds overnight...

This team is a contender. There are few spots up for grabs for young players on contenders.

Kassian, Schroeder and Tanev have all proven that they are NHL quality young players.

Jensen is a bluechip, Lack is a top notch goaltending prospect - and their younger prospects - Corrado and Gaunce show a whole lot of promise. Add a UFA like Lain to the mix, and a few guys who are bound to emerge, and I think it's pretty clear that people do far too much whining about the Canucks inability to produce NHL quality prospects.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:01 PM

Right now we do not have a 2nd line capable of taking us to the Cup final because there are too many injuries (Kesler (broken foot), Booth (broken ankle) and add to that, Ballard (fractured foot) and it adds up to a team that doesn't have enough healthy bodies to win it all. And, those are only the injuries that we know of. We might win a 1st round but we will be on the limp going into the 2nd round.
So, no, I don't think that this is the year to go all in. It is better to get ready for next year. There are only 12 games left after the trade deadline so I doubt that we can field a great team by that time.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:14 PM

Can I play poker with this guy that started this thread? You know the other guy has a royal flush or at least a straight flush...so you're gonna go all in? Really? Anyone with any bit of common sense looks at Pittsburgh's roster and folds. Not to mention a big trade deadline move would be the equivalent of needing to get a straight on the draw, you're gonna go all in against the guy who already has a better hand than the one you're hoping to get if the right cards come up? Seriously bro, don't gamble.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:22 PM

even if we had the assets to trade, its not our year. luongo situation looming over our heads prevents the team from solidifing, health of the team, questioable work ethique, inconsistantcy, other teams have the timming right this year and we dont. Not a good year to go all in. We trade for next year and the future.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 07:27 PM

You can't complain about lack of prospects on one hand, and on the other suggest trading away picks and prospects for rentals.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 08:25 PM

I have a better idea. How about you fools who keep saying we should be "all in" shut up and start thinking about our future? Why the hell should we give away what little we have in prospects just to go all in during a garbage year? If anything, we should probably start stocking up and picks and prospects.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

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I can't believe how many people on CDC, and even the number of commentators and insiders I see on TV, who just seem to have no sense of perspective at all when it comes to evaluating the position of a franchise and what they should be doing.

If we went back in time to the draft, the Rangers were the new "it" team who were doing everything right - they had a rough playoffs, so why not go "all in" and get that big scoring winger. Enter Nash. Where are they now? Fighting with the Islanders for 8th in the East.

How about this - a bit further back - another "powerhouse" franchise. The Flyers trade away Carter and Richards. Early results appear fantastic. Claude Giroux was considered to be on par with Crosby, and possibly might surpass him. We get to the playoffs and who hoists the cup. . . Carter and Richards. Where are they now? Anyone interested in Simon Gagne?

Lets look at this year. Who among Canadian teams is expected to be the team that takes the league by the throat, bolstered by a bevy of awe-inspiring youg talent. They even played together throughout the lock-out, gaining the advantage of readiness and familiarity. Where are they now? Handing out 6 mill a year contracts to every forward on their team not named Gagne (who has the best numbers btw).

When you look at the Canucks, their roster, their prospects, their options, etc. . . can everyone PLEASE take off their idiot-glasses and compare them carefully to other franchises and look honestly at what those franchises have been through?

Up until this year everyone would point at the Red Wings - apparently the clear model that every team should emulate. Just have savvy drafting, slow development, and voila - eternal contenders making runs every year. But wait. . . now that their hall-of-famer has finally hung up his skates, Ken Holland gives his own team a 50% chance of making the playoffs. Apparently pulling elite 1st liners out of the 5th and 6th round isn't actually all that easy.

No one on CDC or elsewhere is talking about the Canucks folowing the Red Wings now. Now it is all Pittsburg, all the time. Seize the day, be like Pittsburg!!! Well, let's see what Pittsburg did last year to get themselves into their current position. . . clearly they saw the writing on the wall, the window is closing right?!?! Clearly they should keep all of their top talent at all costs, right??!?!?

Actually, they trade away Jordan Stall for picks and prospects. Jordan Staal is a pretty good player. In fact, many would say he is a rising elite player, while their current acquisitions are all in decline.

Now, bolstered by a 12+ game win streak without Malkin in the llineup, sitting uncontested at the top of the Eastern conference, and sensing weakness in teams that they have traditionally had trouble with (NYR, Philly), they decide to roll the dice with some rentals. But what have they really paid? A few second rounders? Some college players? A 1st rounder in the 25+ range?

Let me tell you, if the Canucks were on a 14 game win streak and sitting on top of the league with Kesler and Booth out, both were likely to be back any day, and Iginla wanted to come to Vancouver and the price was what Pittsburg payed, and we had the cap room, he would have done it. But that is not the position we are in. The problem is not that we haven't traded Luongo. The problem is not that Booth and Ballard haven't really played up to expectations. The problem is not that we have a bad coach or lack good players on our team.

Being a GM is about making the best moves you can, out of the moves that are available, to maximise your returns and minimize your losses. Iginla wanted to go to Pittsburg - that's why Boston didn't get him. It wasn't an available move for MG, anymore that signing Shea Weber, Zach Parise, or Ryan Suter in the offseason. People who QQ anbout such things don't understand anything about being a GM at all. Similarly, you don't deal away Luongo now for a 2nd rounder, or Bozak, as some pundits have suggested on HNIC. A 1B goalie who can step in and play if you get an injury to Schneider, or he struggles, is worth more to the team now than those things. The cap space is already available if you put Booth on LTIR, trading Luongo for cap space makes no sense. Those would be stupid moves for MG. MG, like all smart GMs has a value in mind for each of his players. If he can trade them for greater than that value, he pulls the trigger, if he can't get that value, he doesn't trade. If he doesn't make a trade at the deadline, it is because he has evaluated the potential value (and associated risks) and found that it just wasn't there.

Please, before you make bold statements about what MG should do, look at the situations of other franchises in the league and get a little perspective.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:29 PM

You can't complain about lack of prospects on one hand, and on the other suggest trading away picks and prospects for rentals.


This.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:31 PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure we can get Toews, Alfredsson, and Rick Nash for Alberts, Luongo, and Raymond.


You're mistaken. I heard from Eklund that it's Ballard, Raymond and a 1st.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 09:57 PM

gillis believes their best chance at a cup is with both goalies and a shortened season you can't just thrown in the towel yet. canucks are nothing like the flames who should by all counts be in a rebuild mode.....gillis will be cautious and if its not going to cost the canucks too much then he will make a trade... luongo will be back here next year and the year after no matter how fast the canucks get knocked out of the playoffs. no one wants luongo contract....hence why he isn't traded yet.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:10 PM

"nothing in the way of good prospect"
i hear jordan schroeder is pretty good


I hear that Zack Kassian guy has some potential
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

Its very obvious that every fickle canuck fan on here (and overall) is starting to wear impatient with MG.

I am glad our GM doesnt have the same mindset, so all you haters can hate...

MG's job is as safe as Aquilini's, so just suck it up and support your team!

I highly doubt u haters could run a lemonade stand let alone manage an NHL franchise...

Edited by frazzY, 29 March 2013 - 10:23 PM.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:21 PM

I can't believe how many people on CDC, and even the number of commentators and insiders I see on TV, who just seem to have no sense of perspective at all when it comes to evaluating the position of a franchise and what they should be doing.

If we went back in time to the draft, the Rangers were the new "it" team who were doing everything right - they had a rough playoffs, so why not go "all in" and get that big scoring winger. Enter Nash. Where are they now? Fighting with the Islanders for 8th in the East.

How about this - a bit further back - another "powerhouse" franchise. The Flyers trade away Carter and Richards. Early results appear fantastic. Claude Giroux was considered to be on par with Crosby, and possibly might surpass him. We get to the playoffs and who hoists the cup. . . Carter and Richards. Where are they now? Anyone interested in Simon Gagne?

Lets look at this year. Who among Canadian teams is expected to be the team that takes the league by the throat, bolstered by a bevy of awe-inspiring youg talent. They even played together throughout the lock-out, gaining the advantage of readiness and familiarity. Where are they now? Handing out 6 mill a year contracts to every forward on their team not named Gagne (who has the best numbers btw).

When you look at the Canucks, their roster, their prospects, their options, etc. . . can everyone PLEASE take off their idiot-glasses and compare them carefully to other franchises and look honestly at what those franchises have been through?

Up until this year everyone would point at the Red Wings - apparently the clear model that every team should emulate. Just have savvy drafting, slow development, and voila - eternal contenders making runs every year. But wait. . . now that their hall-of-famer has finally hung up his skates, Ken Holland gives his own team a 50% chance of making the playoffs. Apparently pulling elite 1st liners out of the 5th and 6th round isn't actually all that easy.

No one on CDC or elsewhere is talking about the Canucks folowing the Red Wings now. Now it is all Pittsburg, all the time. Seize the day, be like Pittsburg!!! Well, let's see what Pittsburg did last year to get themselves into their current position. . . clearly they saw the writing on the wall, the window is closing right?!?! Clearly they should keep all of their top talent at all costs, right??!?!?

Actually, they trade away Jordan Stall for picks and prospects. Jordan Staal is a pretty good player. In fact, many would say he is a rising elite player, while their current acquisitions are all in decline.

Now, bolstered by a 12+ game win streak without Malkin in the llineup, sitting uncontested at the top of the Eastern conference, and sensing weakness in teams that they have traditionally had trouble with (NYR, Philly), they decide to roll the dice with some rentals. But what have they really paid? A few second rounders? Some college players? A 1st rounder in the 25+ range?

Let me tell you, if the Canucks were on a 14 game win streak and sitting on top of the league with Kesler and Booth out, both were likely to be back any day, and Iginla wanted to come to Vancouver and the price was what Pittsburg payed, and we had the cap room, he would have done it. But that is not the position we are in. The problem is not that we haven't traded Luongo. The problem is not that Booth and Ballard haven't really played up to expectations. The problem is not that we have a bad coach or lack good players on our team.

Being a GM is about making the best moves you can, out of the moves that are available, to maximise your returns and minimize your losses. Iginla wanted to go to Pittsburg - that's why Boston didn't get him. It wasn't an available move for MG, anymore that signing Shea Weber, Zach Parise, or Ryan Suter in the offseason. People who QQ anbout such things don't understand anything about being a GM at all. Similarly, you don't deal away Luongo now for a 2nd rounder, or Bozak, as some pundits have suggested on HNIC. A 1B goalie who can step in and play if you get an injury to Schneider, or he struggles, is worth more to the team now than those things. The cap space is already available if you put Booth on LTIR, trading Luongo for cap space makes no sense. Those would be stupid moves for MG. MG, like all smart GMs has a value in mind for each of his players. If he can trade them for greater than that value, he pulls the trigger, if he can't get that value, he doesn't trade. If he doesn't make a trade at the deadline, it is because he has evaluated the potential value (and associated risks) and found that it just wasn't there.

Please, before you make bold statements about what MG should do, look at the situations of other franchises in the league and get a little perspective.



Excellent post! Thank you

I have been telling all my negative doom and gloom buddies this since before the hodgson trade. I'd plus ya if i wasnt on mobile.


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:34 PM

All in? We have no chips to do so...
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:43 PM

It's worked for Pittsburgh and Edmonton, who are going to be a dangerous team very soon with all that talent they've drafted by finishing last. By then Vancouver will be on the decline and in rebuild mode.


Pitts and Leaf...not the same thing, imo.
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HAHAHA ANOTHER INJURED MORON ON OUR TEAM

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Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:44 PM

gillis believes their best chance at a cup is with both goalies and a shortened season you can't just thrown in the towel yet. canucks are nothing like the flames who should by all counts be in a rebuild mode.....gillis will be cautious and if its not going to cost the canucks too much then he will make a trade... luongo will be back here next year and the year after no matter how fast the canucks get knocked out of the playoffs. no one wants luongo contract....hence why he isn't traded yet.


The goaltender situation has become a distraction and sideshow, which should have been dealt with already. That goes without saying. One of them needs to be moved. If that doesn't happen until after the season, then so be it. Gillis is the one who put the team in this situation, along with signing Lu to the ridicious contract, so it's all on him. I can't see this continuing next season especially through 82 games, because Luongo wants to play and not be sitting on the bench. If he can't be traded because Gillis won't getting what he's asking or refuses to lower his demands, then either put him on waivers or buy him out. This cannot continue. The money being spent on Luongo, could be used elsewhere to address the real needs on this team.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:56 PM

You're mistaken. I heard from Eklund that it's Ballard, Raymond and a 1st.


No way man. Prab Rai, McNally and Archybald.
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Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

The goaltender situation has become a distraction and sideshow, which should have been dealt with already. That goes without saying. One of them needs to be moved. If that doesn't happened until after the season, then so be it. Gillis is the one who put the team into situation, along with signing Lu to the ridicious contract, so it's all on him. I can't see this continuing next season especially through 82 games, because Luongo wants to play and not be sitting on the bench. If he can't be traded because Gillis won't getting what he's asking or refuses to lower his demands, then either put him on waivers or buy him out. This cannot continue. The money being spent on Luongo, could be used elsewhere to address the real needs on this team.


I wonder why we haven't put Booth hand Kesler on LTIR yet. Is it a trade deadline thing?
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BAD MOVE!!!

BAD FING MOVE

HAHAHA ANOTHER INJURED MORON ON OUR TEAM

HE WILL JOIN US IN 2019

Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:01 PM

If possibly dealing Luongo and Ballard, if the value is there, would be considered going "all in" then hells yeah.
Otherwise, give up nothing of significant value and pick up a shutdown center who can win faceoffs, and perhaps a depth d so that in a crunch the Canucks don't have to depend upon Barker.

Good value for the guys mentioned - I'm very happy.
Otherwise a depth C like Goc or Boyd Gordon, I'm still happy. I like the team we have, especially when healthy, and the reality is that any and every team could face health issues.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

I'd like to see Gillis call TB about Salo and see if they would be willing to part with him and what it would take to bring him back. He never should have left. All because Gillis refused to give him a second year. His huge shot on the point and PP has been greatly missed. AV only recently has started using Garrison on the point and PP.
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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:19 PM

I'd like to see Gillis call TB about Salo and see if they would be willing to part with him and what it would take to bring him back. He never should have left. All because Gillis refused to give him a second year. His huge shot on the point and PP has been greatly missed. AV only recently has started using Garrison on the point and PP.


I don't know if its just me but Garrison needs to hit the net more.
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BAD MOVE!!!

BAD FING MOVE

HAHAHA ANOTHER INJURED MORON ON OUR TEAM

HE WILL JOIN US IN 2019

Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:23 PM

I can't believe how many people on CDC, and even the number of commentators and insiders I see on TV, who just seem to have no sense of perspective at all when it comes to evaluating the position of a franchise and what they should be doing.

If we went back in time to the draft, the Rangers were the new "it" team who were doing everything right - they had a rough playoffs, so why not go "all in" and get that big scoring winger. Enter Nash. Where are they now? Fighting with the Islanders for 8th in the East.

How about this - a bit further back - another "powerhouse" franchise. The Flyers trade away Carter and Richards. Early results appear fantastic. Claude Giroux was considered to be on par with Crosby, and possibly might surpass him. We get to the playoffs and who hoists the cup. . . Carter and Richards. Where are they now? Anyone interested in Simon Gagne?

Lets look at this year. Who among Canadian teams is expected to be the team that takes the league by the throat, bolstered by a bevy of awe-inspiring youg talent. They even played together throughout the lock-out, gaining the advantage of readiness and familiarity. Where are they now? Handing out 6 mill a year contracts to every forward on their team not named Gagne (who has the best numbers btw).

When you look at the Canucks, their roster, their prospects, their options, etc. . . can everyone PLEASE take off their idiot-glasses and compare them carefully to other franchises and look honestly at what those franchises have been through?

Up until this year everyone would point at the Red Wings - apparently the clear model that every team should emulate. Just have savvy drafting, slow development, and voila - eternal contenders making runs every year. But wait. . . now that their hall-of-famer has finally hung up his skates, Ken Holland gives his own team a 50% chance of making the playoffs. Apparently pulling elite 1st liners out of the 5th and 6th round isn't actually all that easy.

No one on CDC or elsewhere is talking about the Canucks folowing the Red Wings now. Now it is all Pittsburg, all the time. Seize the day, be like Pittsburg!!! Well, let's see what Pittsburg did last year to get themselves into their current position. . . clearly they saw the writing on the wall, the window is closing right?!?! Clearly they should keep all of their top talent at all costs, right??!?!?

Actually, they trade away Jordan Stall for picks and prospects. Jordan Staal is a pretty good player. In fact, many would say he is a rising elite player, while their current acquisitions are all in decline.

Now, bolstered by a 12+ game win streak without Malkin in the llineup, sitting uncontested at the top of the Eastern conference, and sensing weakness in teams that they have traditionally had trouble with (NYR, Philly), they decide to roll the dice with some rentals. But what have they really paid? A few second rounders? Some college players? A 1st rounder in the 25+ range?

Let me tell you, if the Canucks were on a 14 game win streak and sitting on top of the league with Kesler and Booth out, both were likely to be back any day, and Iginla wanted to come to Vancouver and the price was what Pittsburg payed, and we had the cap room, he would have done it. But that is not the position we are in. The problem is not that we haven't traded Luongo. The problem is not that Booth and Ballard haven't really played up to expectations. The problem is not that we have a bad coach or lack good players on our team.

Being a GM is about making the best moves you can, out of the moves that are available, to maximise your returns and minimize your losses. Iginla wanted to go to Pittsburg - that's why Boston didn't get him. It wasn't an available move for MG, anymore that signing Shea Weber, Zach Parise, or Ryan Suter in the offseason. People who QQ anbout such things don't understand anything about being a GM at all. Similarly, you don't deal away Luongo now for a 2nd rounder, or Bozak, as some pundits have suggested on HNIC. A 1B goalie who can step in and play if you get an injury to Schneider, or he struggles, is worth more to the team now than those things. The cap space is already available if you put Booth on LTIR, trading Luongo for cap space makes no sense. Those would be stupid moves for MG. MG, like all smart GMs has a value in mind for each of his players. If he can trade them for greater than that value, he pulls the trigger, if he can't get that value, he doesn't trade. If he doesn't make a trade at the deadline, it is because he has evaluated the potential value (and associated risks) and found that it just wasn't there.

Please, before you make bold statements about what MG should do, look at the situations of other franchises in the league and get a little perspective.


wouldn't it be more prudent to focus on our situation first? how many more chances are we going to have to take a run at the cup? We still have two 'elite' superstars getting older, our goaltending is solid. Our second line has been injured but at the same time, they haven't really proven to have much chemistry when they were playing together. We don't really have a third or fourth line. Our D is suppose to be solid and deeper than most. Are we suppose to wait for our less than stellar prospect pool to develop? Or wait for a Luongo trade when the glut of available good goaltenders is the largest in memory? When the sedins are done, we have no shot at a cup. We have to do something now! We need a third line at minimum. Gillis need to think outside the box. Trade Edler, or Kesler or even Kassian. Win now!

Edited by 36yrsncounting, 29 March 2013 - 11:25 PM.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:43 PM

wouldn't it be more prudent to focus on our situation first? how many more chances are we going to have to take a run at the cup? We still have two 'elite' superstars getting older, our goaltending is solid. Our second line has been injured but at the same time, they haven't really proven to have much chemistry when they were playing together. We don't really have a third or fourth line. Our D is suppose to be solid and deeper than most. Are we suppose to wait for our less than stellar prospect pool to develop? Or wait for a Luongo trade when the glut of available good goaltenders is the largest in memory? When the sedins are done, we have no shot at a cup. We have to do something now! We need a third line at minimum. Gillis need to think outside the box. Trade Edler, or Kesler or even Kassian. Win now!


Luongo sure. But we need rational trades. Trading Edler and Kesler or even Kassian for...?
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HAHAHA ANOTHER INJURED MORON ON OUR TEAM

HE WILL JOIN US IN 2019

Benning will be fired next year. Hope he enjoys screwing around for a few months. I just cant believe this. Another injured BC player. We just got rid of garrison. Seems like the canucks and linden just wanted any BC born player. Doesn't matter if hes good or not. We don't need another Linden to get us to game 7 of the Stanley cup and lose. We need someone to win us a cup.

5 million a year for Vrbata? 6 million for Miller? Kesler for Bonino and 24th instead of 10th pick or one of their top prospects? Garrison for scraps?

ive already lost faith in JB. Ive never EVER had this bad of a feeling about management.

 


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Posted 29 March 2013 - 11:51 PM

really dont understand why we have to "go all in" every single year. if that were the case, this team would be a perpetual bottom feeder
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