Canuck or Die Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Screw dreger and all the idiots in the Toronto media. After Gillis' final offer, the laffs made it clear that they wanted Luongo for nothing. Also, it was wishful thinking on anyone's part if they thought Luongo was moving at the deadline. To all the naysayers, I'm willing to bet we will get better offers in the summer when more teams will have things sorted out going into next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishEveryCheck Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Luongo will probably be unmovable, Aquilini will try and turn this around by firing Gillis and being forced to trade Cory Schneider , pleading for Lu to stay and save the franchise and his consecutive sell out streak. i like going into the playoffs with top goalies tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The Leafs were ok with theyre own goaltending... but were willing to take on Lui for nothing, if the Canucks were that desperate to move him... Reports that the Canucks last asking price was Scrivens and two 2nd round picks.... unless Luongo gets to come in and steals the show come playoff time... Im talking conn smythe performance... we're gonna get raped in any Lu deal come the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Gillis is pooched. I've been saying to trade Cory since last trade deadline. People said we'd move one then... Then draft...then this deadline. If leafs wouldn't take that we're Scrooged. Let Cory go. Lu is a good goalie. Our playoff failures aren't on him. Schneider is just not much younger and could demand a big long term contract to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Gillis is pooched. I've been saying to trade Cory since last trade deadline. People said we'd move one then... Then draft...then this deadline. If leafs wouldn't take that we're Scrooged. Let Cory go. Lu is a good goalie. Our playoff failures aren't on him. Schneider is just not much younger and could demand a big long term contract to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 You know it. To me, I did not see a sad Luongo because he didn't get traded. I saw a heart broken Luongo who realized that the possibility of actually being traded was right around the corner. His guts turned yesterday afternoon... I think what we have in Vancouver is a real gent of a man with a sensible, sensitive, passionate personality that is sometimes taken right out of context. He was drilled hard by the media today and stood high in the face of adversity like never before, fielding all questions in a professional and honest manner. Yes, his contract sucks. He and everyone involved knows. Gillis also mentioned it in his presser, that Luongo's contract made sense at the time of the signing but that this game is lucid in its inner workings. No knock on Cory Schneider, who is an excellent goaltender, but he is of no match to Luongo if Luongo gets his head in it. As per TSN's panel today, Luongo's contract is so immovable now and perhaps even in the summer due to a reduction in salary cap, that it is starting to make sense and cents to look at moving Schneider instead. This trade deadline, the returns of a Schneider trade could have put this team in better shape for a Cup for these upcoming playoffs but the returns from a Schneider trade this summer could put this team over the top and put it back as favorites for a few years yet. And the Canucks would still have Luongo in net, which is not a bad thing at all. Theoretically, Schneider could be worth the 1st overall or at least of the 1-5 top picks and the Canucks could then proceed in selecting a future T1D which they never had in the history of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 You know, you were making sense and a good case there, and then the bolded part and you lost me again. Don't know why you feel compelled to do this. If you stopped trying to deny Schneider's talent, you'd actually be in agreement with your idol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Wow can this season get any crazier? In the present the team is better having Luongo and Roy vs Scrivens and a couple picks. On a personel level this season has been a disaster of epic proportions. Raymond contract clawback, Malhotra forced retirement, the botched Volpatti waiver, Ballards bizarre treatment, Kesler and Booth injuries, Kassian, Edler and of course the Luongo situation. The fact that this team is doing as good in the standings as they are is also unbelievable. Can we honestly say aside from Raymond, Higgins, Hansen and Tanev that anyone is meeting or exceeding expectations??? This next 4 months will be a survival mission for management and coaching. I feel sorry for Roberto the way he has been treated by fans and management as he seems like a good person. Should have played game 5 against the Kings. Is it possible that we eat a portion of the contract reduce it to 25 million to increase possible partners and then get fair value for said player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_Hockey_101 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Hard to believe I'd consider cheering for the Bruins in that series. I was pulling a bit for Toronto to get it together this season but now I'd love to see a total Leafs implosion. Spin that ToSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Dave Nonis pretty much screwed the Canucks over by telling the world through media that Gillis offered them 2 2nds and Scrivens. Way to go botch our chance at getting something decent for him Dave you loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 One final dagger to MG from Nonis ... "that's for taking my job" ... *sinister laugh*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Under Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Sorry, read half way down in tsn article. Gillis said Lu nixed trades. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=419791 'Gillis said getting the right compensation in return has been the biggest stumbling block in dealing the 34-year-old netminder. He also said that there have been deals on the table that Luongo turned down, since he has a no-movement clause in his contract., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck or Die Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 We will get a better return in the summer. This is just like last year with the Nash trade. Yeah, he may have a shorter term, but his cap hit is ridiculously high. Columbus tried to offload him at last year's trade deadline, and I think the Rangers were even rumoured to be one of the teams inquiring about him during then. Of course, the Rangers did end up getting him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 As I said, I do not deny Schneider's talent in the least. But when Lou's on his game, it's incredible. The argument still stands. They're both super goaltenders and the Canucks are reminiscent of a rich man who has it all but cannot get out of depression to save his life; an abundance of riches. Moving Schneider might be the only way to solve this problem. He will have two years left at $4.000 MIL while Luongo is on a lifetime contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 As I said, I do not deny Schneider's talent in the least. But when Lou's on his game, it's incredible. The argument still stands. They're both super goaltenders and the Canucks are reminiscent of a rich man who has it all but cannot get out of depression to save his life; an abundance of riches. Moving Schneider might be the only way to solve this problem. He will have two years left at $4.000 MIL while Luongo is on a lifetime contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I somewhat agree. I think Luongo when on his game was the best goalie in the league, in 2011. I haven't seen enough of him at this peak to say that with complete confidence anymore, although I am sure at his best he is still right up there. Cory at his best is there too now, I agree with what oldnews said earlier that trading Luongo for nothing wouldn't be a loss this franchise. Theres the asset in moving the deal and mending things with Roberto. Who the fan base very much still loves despite accepting Cory as the guy. I'm hopeful though that we can probably get a prospect or a 2nd or 3rd or something at the draft. Not a complete loss. And even if it isn't that. Someone will take him he's that good and there are ways around the long terms affects of the contract. I don't really see it as bad as some do. And I am sure at the measley price of a mid prospect or a 2nd or 3rd someone would stomach it no problem knowing what they are getting in Roberto Luongo. I hope it doesn't got a second past the draft though, I am getting tired of talking about it now and if it goes past that I can't imagine how much more we will get sick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuckFanLivingInCalgary:( Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 So basically TO may have given up two second rounders for Lou. That is what Tampa paid for Lindback. That kind of return is unacceptable. Time to start shopping Cory if that's all we'll get for Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 So basically TO may have given up two second rounders for Lou. That is what Tampa paid for Lindback. That kind of return is unacceptable. Time to start shopping Cory if that's all we'll get for Luo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I personally don't believe that really happened actually. Just Dregger pulling stuff to make MG look desperate to get rid of him. But at the same time, he makes Nonis look stupid for rejecting that offer too. Goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I personally don't believe that really happened actually. Just Dregger pulling stuff to make MG look desperate to get rid of him. But at the same time, he makes Nonis look stupid for rejecting that offer too. Goes both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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