Tony Romo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Wait .... In our Cup run,Torres was our only hot/cold player? That means that Higgins, Hansen, and Raymond would NOT have been streaky then. Kinda defeats your argument. On our 5 on 5 play, the answer is obvious. We have players centring three lines that don't scare anyone. As for our PP, the Sedins are overpassing. Our confidence is shot since we can't even set up many times. We miss Kesler and Salo. I'm hoping Garrison improves things with more time on it, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananas Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 What I meant was that we have too many hot/cold players in our top 6 right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Romo Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 You mean Higgins, Hansen, and Raymond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The team is dependant way too much on the twins. Opposing teams understand just keep the Sedin's to the outside and they can't score, because sadly this year they won't shoot. Burrows doesn't seem to be crashing the net creating space like he used to. Schroeder, Higgins, Hansen, and Raymond are the only other threats and they aren't consistent. The rest of the forwards outside of Lapierre are just plugs who can't even score on an open net. The Canucks are lacking speed and skill as well as size. Kassian has been effective at times, but he's young and learning, so it will take a while for him and some younger players to get into the swing of things. Our defense is a quandary as well. Edler is talented but I think he still has a lingering back issue which is why he's not as physical or taking shots. Hamhuis, does take shots, but that's not really his primary thing. Garrison has a cannon but he has no accuracy or he can't get into a clear lane to shoot from. Tanev will shoot, but he's a defensive specialist so I'm ok with whatever he can provide. We have a revolving door on #6 D-man, and of all of them, at least Barker seems not too bad. Ballard at times is fine, but he's playing scared because he doesn't want to get benched. Bieksa, well he's always up and down, and he seems a little lost without Hamhuis as his partner. In short we're suffering from injuries and a lack of practise time. But even a healthy Booth and Kesler, we need to get younger, faster, bigger, and more skilled. That's a tall order for our scouts at the draft positions we find ourselves in. In more than a few games this year, the Canucks look slow, disorganized, and unenthused as a group. Not a good combination when you're trying to win games. Don't even get me started on the power play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 That's pretty questionable. The Sedins numbers this season 5 on 5 have been more or less the same as their numbers in the much praised 2010/2011 season. Their compelte lack of powerplay scoring almost completely accounts for the difference in total numbers. The most plausible explanation therefore is that there's nothing wrong with the Sedins. It's the powerplay. Get it going and they'll return to form. The Sedins aren't failing because of the power play. The power play is failing because of the Sedins not scoring on it. Booth has actually put up slightly better numbers than Sammy since the trade. Both guys have been crippled by injuries this season but when healthy, there's really no basis to say Booth is any worse of a player. True. Booth vs Sammy now is comparable. I'm saying Booth isn't as good as Sammy was when he scored 33 goals for us. A more apt comparison would probably be... Salo vs Garrison...a matchup Garrison wins hands down. He's tougher, more durable, and better defensively. He actually puts his shot on net too. Salo usually had about 25+ points in 60 games played for us. Garrison has had one good season, and it's not for the Canucks. How many PP goals does Garrison have for us? Only thing he's better at is toughness which you could say for any D in the league. And if you say he actually puts his shots on net then you're probably talking about a different Garrison. Torres vs Kassian...again, clearly an improvement. He's more skilled and has superior physical tools. Both are streaky scorers but I'd still take Kassian. Torres is better offensively, defensively and is 10X better hitter. Only thing Kassian has is he's a better fighter and gets paid less. Erhoff vs Tanev...admittedly, we haven't truly replaced Erhoff with Tanev since they're completely opposite players and Tanev was with the team in 2011. Still, Tanev is much, much better now. He was a great depth option in 2011 but now he's rounded into a real top 4 D man that can play big minutes against even top competiton. Again, Tanev and Erhoff bring completely opposite skill sets but still, I don't think you can say one is "worse" than the other. I never compared these two, I said Erhoff was better than Garrison is. But ok, Erhoff was better for us than Garrison and Tanev put together. He was a main reason why our PP was the best in the league. There are other areas where this team has improved as well. Hanses has also developed a lot. He's much more of a real scoring threat than he was in 2011. We've got a better 4th line now as well. So no, you're wrong. The Canucks aren't really any worse in terms of tallent, at least when healthy. Hansen and Tanev have improved, yes. But the rest of the team is a shadow of its former self. So no, you're wrong. But there are a lot of delusional Canuck fans out there that still associate Kassian and our 4th line with talent. I guess it's only a matter of time before the Canucks "wake up" right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gman Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Too busy defending the 0-4 lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 anyone here think coaching is the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizardB Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 NEW COACH for a start!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikillchicken Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The Sedins aren't failing because of the power play. The power play is failing because of the Sedins not scoring on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 No heart. Seems like they don't give a crap any more, no motivation to do anything. Pretty much playing for a pay cheque. And obviously nobody offensive. Sedins can set up plays, and tap ins. But other than that, we don't have any snipers. Closest thing is Raymond, and he's hit and miss most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.olofsson Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well, we all got what we wanted. We got bigger and tougher. Did anyone really expect more goals from this? Heres to hoping it will pay off in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Because we have an abundance of third liners with little top end skill and our two superstars are incapable of shouldering the load on seperate lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinishEveryCheck Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well, we all got what we wanted. We got bigger and tougher. Did anyone really expect more goals from this? Heres to hoping it will pay off in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uber_pwnzor Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We need to get someone like Naslund. A great sniper who could pick a spot and score. We don't really have that. This season has been a tough one. A lot of players have not played like they are supposed to, I just hope they can get back on track next game. Forget about the Oilers lets focus on the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Very true. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 2 of whom are not legitimate top 6 forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etsen3 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Pinizzotto, Ebbett, Sestito, Weise, Kassian, Gordon, Lapierre, Ballard, Alberts.... Usually you only want a few of these type of guys on your team. We've got two full lines devoid of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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