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#1 CanuckleHorse

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:36 PM

I have to many to list so ill give you a five. 1) He skated the guys the morning of the 7th game they looked sluggish and slow at the start of the game. 2) Not playing Linden with the twins his last year that line was awesome when played together. 3) His line decisions always leaves me scratching my head offensive players playing with plugs? 4)This year he had Kass playing lights out with the twins he had burrows playing center instead of wing where he would have been more useful with another line. 5) He loves defensive plugs he would play them over a more offensive gifted player. ps I feel bad for Jensen an offensive player with a coach who wants him to play a D first type game.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:40 PM

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Keith Ballard.

The guy is a good NHL defenseman but has been poorly utilized and spends his time in the press box instead of in the line-up. Ballard/Tanev has been my favorite defensive unit this year.. Too bad.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

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Putting the pen on the contract when he re-signed here.

I also hate when he hoots like an owl to indicate a line-change every time the Canucks have to generate some offence off the rush.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:50 PM

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I like the guy. The pros outweight the cons. One of our best coaches. I still think it's time to move on because this team really looks out of it right now with him.

I don't like his philosophy of making every prospect work his way into the top six. Sometimes a prospect develops better playing in the top six. If he can't do that, send him to the AHL. But at the same time, if a prospect has 1 bad game playing there, after 3 good ones, it's not time to send him to the AHL/4th line.

I don't like how he broke Ballard.

If he was involved in anyways with Shirokov getting sent down (I think it was all MG, so he's safe), than I am definitely not a fan of that.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:00 PM

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:04 PM

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So easy: refusing to pull Lu in game 3 after eating three quick, bad goals and instead pandering to Lu's ego, which very well may have cost us the series and cup. It cost us a 2-0 series lead for sure imo.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:11 PM

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Probably not starting Cory in Game 4 or Game 6 against Boston.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:12 PM

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Not pulling goalies when needed, putting rookies with high potential on the fourth line when they have clearly proven themselves, staying quiet when the team needs to step up, the list can go on...
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:20 PM

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Probably not starting Cory in Game 4 or Game 6 against Boston.


Game 4 perhaps but starting Cory in game 6 would have been outright retarded considering Lu pitched a shutout in game 5.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:22 PM

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Not allowing the team to stand up for the abuse Daniel and Henrik were taking against Boston

Defending 1-goal leads

Refusal to give younger players a chance
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

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Probably not starting Cory in Game 4 or Game 6 against Boston.


How could they?

Luongo plays well in games 1 and 2 in Van.
Game three gets ventilated. Still up 2-1.
Game four looks bad, but he plays lights out at home, so you have to start him.
Game 5, gets a shutout in a 1-0 victory. So how do you not start him in game 6?
Game 6, looks bad, but he has 2 shutouts in the series at home.
So how can you not start him?
Game 7 :sadno:
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:26 PM

Not protecting his talented players and REFUSAL to develop them --- would rather play Rome then other more talented defenseman, hanging Ballad out to dry....NOT PLAYING KASSIAN...
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 07:45 PM

Calling out Hodgson in the media and saying he was using excuses when Cody was still hurt.

Unwillingness to pull Luongo when there was a capable back up.

Being too conservative. Sitting on 1 goal leads or letting other teams continually forecheck hard against the team. Last year the Kings forecheck was dominating, you can't just let that go on you have to try something else.

Lack of flexibility with the Sedins. He should have separated them and played them on the PK sometimes. Let them succeed or open up peoples eyes to their weaknesses. Too many people think the Sedins having to play together is some cool strength, but they are completely backwards it's a weakness.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

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1) Leaving Luongo in for all 8 goals in Boston, essentially destroying his confidence
2) His management of Ballard
3) Taking Kassian off the Sedin line while he was producing

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:18 PM

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It's his non-decisions that I've really hated. It's as if once he's formed an opinion, he doesn't budge from it until it's too late.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 09:23 PM

Treatment of rookies.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:00 PM

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Chasing two Canucks' legends from the city, and ultimately the game; Linden and Naslund would both not play for AV, and drew the line in the sand, and lost. Disgusting.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

1. Ballard. Ballard has been managed terribly from day one.
2. Not having the team stand up for itself in the finals against Boston. The twins should not have taken that abuse.
3. Not inserting Rypien into the lineup against Boston. I guarantee Marchand would not have been running around. Ripper was the toughest player in the league pound for pound.
4. Chasing Canuck legends Linden and Naslund off the team. Linden was managed terribly under AV, and Naslund didn't like the guy either.
5. Not managing our prospects effectively and playing to their strengths as opposed to trying to make them play a game they aren't suited to.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:24 PM

Sitting on leads. Ugh.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:27 PM

Not letting rookies play, teams like Chicago, St. Louis and Philly do it all the time. How do you expect them to learn on the 4th line playing vs plugs?
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:30 PM

Not starting schneids in boston during the cup run.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

Most recent, no timeout in the Edmonton game before he pulled Schneider. Riot act and let CS battle back...
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:32 PM

When he chose to win the line match-up cup instead of the Stanley cup.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:47 PM

Not starting schneids in boston during the cup run.

this for sure. i wish he could have aided the hodgson situation too, but maybe it just wasn't meant to be
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

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AV refuses to give this young guy a chance.
As he did with Burrows, Edler, Kesler, Hansen, Raymond....
Ruins every young player he gets his hands on.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

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Managing Cody Hodgson.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:00 PM

Luongo proved twice in a row that he couldn't play well in Boston. It was like him in Chicago all over again.

A coach with any balls would have gone with Schneider in game 6, regardless of Lu's shutout. He was probably emotionally drained after that game 5 win.

But regardless, the team didn't step up at home in game 7 so that's ultimately what it came down to.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:01 PM

Chasing two Canucks' legends from the city, and ultimately the game; Linden and Naslund would both not play for AV, and drew the line in the sand, and lost. Disgusting.


I dont like AV and im not trying to defend him... But...

What?

Linden retired, i might agree with you about Naslund, but def not Linden.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:20 PM

1) management of ballard
2) not utilizing his timeouts correctly
3) leaving goalies in the net after everyone realizes he's having a bad game ( luongo in Detroit this season)
4) mis-managing prospects; not developing them properly
5) his choice of gum

The list goes on and on
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:46 PM

Kassian had 5 goals in 7 games and was tied second in scoring in the league with Henrik and Daniel. AV logic takes action and puts him down to the 3rd/4th for some reason and he has struggled ever since. Now he is behind Ebbet, Sestito, and Pinozzoto, in a roster spot sitting in the AHL with scrubs.
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