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#61 Baggins

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:35 AM

D-d-d-dance moms of course, since he watches it. :emot-parrot:


Nope. Just seen the adds far more often than I'd like. Thirty seconds is bad enough, can't imagine how painful a full hour would be.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 12:43 AM

:picard: I understand you hate MG Bodee, but c'mon man wake up.

Gillis gest tons of sh*t that is undeserved. He brings in players that we need and MG doesn't make them work.

He brought in a top 4 Dman in Ballard and now look at what AV has done with him, he brought in a top 6 forward in Booth. He brought in a top shutdown defenseman in Garrison and signed him at below market value. Aswell re-signed all our core pieces at well below market value so we can even have the team we have today. But he never gets credit for that. Nope.

Yeah our team has been injured. So AV deserves some slack. But its not excuse. Look at Ottawa. if you haven't realized this team has been making the same mistakes since the Boston game last year. Out PP has been an asbsolute dud. No changes made there though, who's fault is that? MG's? Or AV's? I don't even know what system this team plays, we can't score, we have no PP, so we have no offense. So it isn't an offensive system. But at the same point we can't play defense as we have seen this years, its a fire drill in our own end with many giveaways. So what exactly does our system focus on? What is it supposed do? Do we even have one?

I could go on and on. But the bottom line is this team has been carried by goaltending this year, and suggesting otherwise is pure delusion. Without outstanding goaltending this team can't win, and it shouldn't be that way.

And here MG has pulled off another great move bringing in Roy. So there, AV now has something to work with.


Ottawa 19-11-6 (last 10 = 6-3-1)
Vancouver 19-11-6 (last 10 = 6-4-0)

And I think we have a few more bandaids on our roster.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 01:56 AM

we have no PP,


So that's what our problem is

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:20 AM

Any team can use injuries as an excuse. Bottom line is aside from Kesler their top guys were healthy and present and let the team down. It's not like Boston didn't have guys bruised up either. Every team that makes the finals is banged up. Plain and simple they got completely shelled and embarrassed in Boston and never fought back.


You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Daniel Henrik Burrows
Raymond Kesler Samuelsson
Higgins Malhotra Hansen

Edler Ehrhoff
Hamhuis Bieksa
Rome Tanev

Blue = Playing Injured
Red = Out

Henrik - Back
Raymond - Back
Kesler - Hip & Groin
Samuelsson - Hernia
Higgins - Broken Foot
Malhotra - Eye

Edler - Broken Fingers
Ehrhoff - Shoulder
Hamhuis - Groin
Bieksa - Bruised ACL
Rome - Suspended

You can call injuries making excuses all you want, but 7 of your top 9 forwards and 5 of your top 6 d-men is one hell of a lot to overcome. We're not talking your typical bumps and bruises.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 02:50 AM

Got to agree with you on this. Team doesn't have the will power to get up and win - those who aren't injured just aren't pouring more sweat and blood. AV needs to do this in the locker room:



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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:04 AM

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Daniel Henrik Burrows
Raymond Kesler Samuelsson
Higgins Malhotra Hansen

Edler Ehrhoff
Hamhuis Bieksa
Rome Tanev

Blue = Playing Injured
Red = Out

Henrik - Back
Raymond - Back
Kesler - Hip & Groin
Samuelsson - Hernia
Higgins - Broken Foot
Malhotra - Eye

Edler - Broken Fingers
Ehrhoff - Shoulder
Hamhuis - Groin
Bieksa - Bruised ACL
Rome - Suspended

You can call injuries making excuses all you want, but 7 of your top 9 forwards and 5 of your top 6 d-men is one hell of a lot to overcome. We're not talking your typical bumps and bruises.


They had Luongo their starting goalie, who could have shut the Bruins down with superior willpower, and if Henrik could play through his injury to help get just one goal, they could have done it.

Linden was injured in game 7 against New York, yet he had the willpower to score two goals - a rare feat for anyone playing in a SCF Game 7. Had he been playing on this team, they would've won.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:16 AM

Had he been playing on this team, they would've won.


A 40 year old linden would of won us the SC? you heard it here first folks

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:45 AM

:picard: I understand you hate MG Bodee, but c'mon man wake up.

Gillis gest tons of sh*t that is undeserved. He brings in players that we need and MG doesn't make them work.

He brought in a top 4 Dman in Ballard and now look at what AV has done with him, he brought in a top 6 forward in Booth. He brought in a top shutdown defenseman in Garrison and signed him at below market value. Aswell re-signed all our core pieces at well below market value so we can even have the team we have today. But he never gets credit for that. Nope.

Yeah our team has been injured. So AV deserves some slack. But its not excuse. Look at Ottawa. if you haven't realized this team has been making the same mistakes since the Boston game last year. Out PP has been an asbsolute dud. No changes made there though, who's fault is that? MG's? Or AV's? I don't even know what system this team plays, we can't score, we have no PP, so we have no offense. So it isn't an offensive system. But at the same point we can't play defense as we have seen this years, its a fire drill in our own end with many giveaways. So what exactly does our system focus on? What is it supposed do? Do we even have one?

I could go on and on. But the bottom line is this team has been carried by goaltending this year, and suggesting otherwise is pure delusion. Without outstanding goaltending this team can't win, and it shouldn't be that way.

And here MG has pulled off another great move bringing in Roy. So there, AV now has something to work with.


MG is ultimately responsible for the overall culture and attitude of the team. So far, I say the team culture has begun to produce poor attitudes - few, if anyone, on this team seem to have the full-out will power to win. If they had, they would play through injury and pain, not get affected by anything, and just keep going.

What's more, a lot of the players seem to be disconnected from the fans and the city - for one, Luongo seems at times disinterested (even uncomfortable) being in Vancouver, a factor in his wanting out. As well, MG has begun to treat certain players like expendable pieces of meat, looking solely at their usefulness and not rewarding them for their loyalty (ie. Willie Mitchell).

All in all, the character of this Canuck team is falling and MG is responsible to build and maintain it. If the team misses the Finals this year, the one who really needs to go is Gillis himself.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:48 AM

A 40 year old linden would of won us the SC? you heard it here first folks


Well how old was Bourque when he played Game 7 in the SCF? All right, Linden may not have his calibre, but what he does have is the power of will and determination, even in his older age. That makes the greatest difference - it would lift the entire team to win.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:53 AM

Well how old was Bourque when he played Game 7 in the SCF? All right, Linden may not have his calibre, but what he does have is the power of will and determination, even in his older age. That makes the greatest difference - it would lift the entire team to win.


Like it did in 94?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:04 AM

I agree, Sedins are awesome players, but not leaders. They are not physical and loud.

I think Salo had the leadership skills, team was struggling when he was injured and away, and now when he's not in the team anymore.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 04:25 AM

I think Salo had the leadership skills, team was struggling when he was injured and away, and now when he's not in the team anymore.


Salo missed 57 games in 2010-11 and 2010-11 was the Canucks best season. We aren't struggling because of Salo

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

Well how old was Bourque when he played Game 7 in the SCF? All right, Linden may not have his calibre, but what he does have is the power of will and determination, even in his older age. That makes the greatest difference - it would lift the entire team to win.


Then why didn't we beat Anaheim in 07? Linden was there. Or Calgary in 04? He was there as well. Just how many cups has he magical will won in his career?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:44 AM

I agree, Sedins are awesome players, but not leaders. They are not physical and loud.

I think Salo had the leadership skills, team was struggling when he was injured and away, and now when he's not in the team anymore.


Salo was physical and loud? :lol:

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

MG is ultimately responsible for the overall culture and attitude of the team. So far, I say the team culture has begun to produce poor attitudes - few, if anyone, on this team seem to have the full-out will power to win. If they had, they would play through injury and pain, not get affected by anything, and just keep going.


And none of our guys have ever played through injuries. It doesn't mean those injuries won't affect ability. And the more players affected increases the mountain to climb.

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