Bodee Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well I'm disappointed. I just don't see how it makes sense. The guy's a f-------g midget! I thought Gillis said we were getting BIGGER. Also how do you justify giving away one of the hardest shots and biggest guys in the AHL AND a 2nd for what is basically a rental when Chicago gave a 4th for Handzus? I know I wanted him to make a move but I didn't want him chuck resources away for a guy the other team didn't want in the first place.............AND he wants a damn fortune probably to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmpunk Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 If Gillis doesn't sign Roy then this is a FAIL. I like Roy but I like 2nd round picks in deep drafts more than rental players in seasons where we are soooooooooooo far from competing for the big prize. It's only a good trade if Roy wants to be here and signs a reasonable deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 I'm just glad Gillis went the skill route in choosing Roy to fill the center position. With Canucks scoring struggle so far, Roy's offensive pass first mentality will help. As far as I know, the closest other option at center that we were close to acquiring was Boyd Gordon. Last year Gillis chose the Defensive route for the third line (Samuel Pahlsson). This year the need for more skill guys is high so it only makes sense to get the more skilled guy in Roy. As for the people whining about what we gave up. We need to make a push for the cup NOW. Giving up a 2nd round pick and higher picks is not a big deal if it means we have a Stanley Cup push while the Sedins are not dramatically hitting the downfall. Giving up a first round is not what I'm saying though, losing a first rounder is a whole different story and that's something a team like Vancouver needs to hold on to. Kevin Connauton isn't one of the top defensive prospects we have. Sauve, Carrado, and Anderson are ranked higher in my opinion to crack the roster over him leaving him expendable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobiedoodoo Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Not sure Roy is what the Canucks need, but willing to give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Best part about this deal? I have Roy in my fantasy pool . But great deal all in all. The 2nd is a non factor in this situation. Luongo trade will off-set it. We still have our 1st, and gained a legitimate 2C. Last year Gaustad (a solid 3C in his own right) fetched a 1st. Kind of sad to see KConn go, but we're pretty set on the club with Hammer, Bieksa, Edler and Garrison all locked up long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Ugh, too much for a rental. The Canucks' D prospects were already thin, and Connauton was the most NHL ready of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bull" Horvat Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Roy is a lot stronger on the defensive side than Cody Hodgson, definitely a lot skilled. So no, CoHo fans, can't compare that. To those who wanna bash about trading Connauton away, this guy has fell in our prospects ladder. 2nd top dmen after corrado is andersson now. connauton gave up a lot of his offensive abilities to be a player who can play two way just so he can make the big league team but even in his own words this veteran defensemen group is too hard to break into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well I'm disappointed. I just don't see how it makes sense. The guy's a f-------g midget! I thought Gillis said we were getting BIGGER. Also how do you justify giving away one of the hardest shots and biggest guys in the AHL AND a 2nd for what is basically a rental when Chicago gave a 4th for Handzus? I know I wanted him to make a move but I didn't want him chuck resources away for a guy the other team didn't want in the first place.............AND he wants a damn fortune probably to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bull" Horvat Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Best part about this deal? I have Roy in my fantasy pool . But great deal all in all. The 2nd is a non factor in this situation. Luongo trade will off-set it. We still have our 1st, and gained a legitimate 2C. Last year Gaustad (a solid 3C in his own right) fetched a 1st. Kind of sad to see KConn go, but we're pretty set on the club with Hammer, Bieksa, Edler and Garrison all locked up long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well I'm disappointed. I just don't see how it makes sense. The guy's a f-------g midget! I thought Gillis said we were getting BIGGER. Also how do you justify giving away one of the hardest shots and biggest guys in the AHL AND a 2nd for what is basically a rental when Chicago gave a 4th for Handzus? I know I wanted him to make a move but I didn't want him chuck resources away for a guy the other team didn't want in the first place.............AND he wants a damn fortune probably to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Maybe watching Roy dive will make the rest of our teams' dives more acceptable. Hehe. Yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 If this is true... plan the parade. Its like trading hitler to Israel ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bull" Horvat Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 You are so missing the big picture here. The team got better for a gamble that the 2nd may pan out. Connauton was a long shot. The team got better.... I repeat.... the team got better. Roy will be a compounding effect on the players we have. Whoever lines up with him will get substantially more and better scoring chances. That's a much bigger need for our team than size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangelos Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Well I'm disappointed. I just don't see how it makes sense. The guy's a f-------g midget! I thought Gillis said we were getting BIGGER. Also how do you justify giving away one of the hardest shots and biggest guys in the AHL AND a 2nd for what is basically a rental when Chicago gave a 4th for Handzus? I know I wanted him to make a move but I didn't want him chuck resources away for a guy the other team didn't want in the first place.............AND he wants a damn fortune probably to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nah that was a separate trade for MAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a Fool Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Roy will be a compounding effect on the players we have. Whoever lines up with him will get substantially more and better scoring chances. That's a much bigger need for our team than size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Got er done the day before the deadline. Now the cream is all we're looking for -and there's time to churn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sedin Sedin Burrows Booth Roy Kassian Raymond Kesler Hansen Higgins Lappy Weise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeyedak Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Handzus for a 4th was a much, much worse deal. Handzus is a marginal 4th liner. There's no comparison to be made. I'd consider Handzus as a winger for Lappy on the 4th line if he were on waivers. Otherwise, you're obsessing over size. Roy is a BIG talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Systemaddict Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 People who are mad about Connauton leaving clearly don't watch him play. His potential has likely peaked, and it's unlikely he ever becomes a full time NHLer. It's good to get something for him while he still has value. Obviously it sucks to give up a 2nd round pick, but you gotta give up something to get something of value. And with our track record of 2nd round picks (Sauve, Rodin, Mallet), we're likely not giving up that much. I have a feeling we'll get at least that pick, if not a 1st in a Luongo trade anyways. That's what makes this deal easier to make for Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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