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#61 sampy

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

Terrible trade! An undersized UFA, at the end of his contract, for our best D prospect and a 2nd in a deep draft? Total fail. We're not exactly deep on prospects, and we just gave up two more for a 2 month rental


You obviously don't follow the Canucks much.
Tanev, Corrado and Anderson are all going to be better.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

If we acquire Ott and Clowe:
Sedin- Sedin - Burrows
Clowe - Roy - Kesler
Higgins - Ott - Hansen
Sesito - Lapps - Pinnizotto

Raymond will probably go in a trade.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

A first liner on Buffalo IS a 2-3 tweener on a good team. Where are they int the standings exactly?


He put up 81 points one year and has been a constant point getter, good for an average of 70ish points a season. He's at least a 2nd liner and not a "tweener"
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

great trade for us! our center depth is great again!!!
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:47 AM

Going to say this. The Roy deal smells like one which the Canucks could utilize to put Kes at RW. Roy is small as crap but he is one hell of a set up man and for the sake of preserving longevity for Kes it makes sense to move him to RW as he would be less likely to be injured


I'm hopeful this will happen. I fear we'll be lucky if it does though.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

Great trade, thank you gillis for getting what we needed without giving up a 1st in a deep draft
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

Terrible trade! An undersized UFA, at the end of his contract, for our best D prospect and a 2nd in a deep draft? Total fail. We're not exactly deep on prospects, and we just gave up two more for a 2 month rental



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

Ugh, too much for a rental. The Canucks' D prospects were already thin, and Connauton was the most NHL ready of them.



Completely disagree. I am never one to defend MG's moves because some of them dumbfound me but this one makes sense.

Edler is locked and loaded. Tanev is young. Bieksa is going to be there for while. Garrison is only 27 I believe. Hamhuis has 3 more yrs. Thats there only position of strength right now
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:48 AM

WITH A SECOND.

FOR A RENTAL?

The softest C this side of ribeiro. For a team looking for "toughness". Hodgson was much better defensively than Roy.

Roy better re-sign, and for cheap because he doesn't deserve a penny more than he makes now.


Really?? Is that why Cody is playing on the 4th line and has been called out for his defensive play. Get real!!!
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

Connauton would not be making our roster for a long long time, his defensive abilities leave a lot to be desired. Fairly 1 dimensional defenceman.

This is a good trade, made even better if the Canucks have success in the post season and are able to re-sign to a reasonable term/dollar value.

I don't think Roy is looking for $7 mill a year, i think he wants term and with the ownership issues in Dallas, they didn't want to commit. Vancouver has deep pockets, 5 years $5 mill cap hit.

Kassian - Roy - Kesler helluva 2nd line if you ask me.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

He put up 81 points one year and has been a constant point getter, good for an average of 70ish points a season. He's at least a 2nd liner and not a "tweener"


*In the East. I could put up 60 points in the East and I can barely stay up on skates :P
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

Good for connauton getting a chane in Dallas and Roy has 22 points in 30 games or so not bad
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

*In the East. I could put up 60 points in the East and I can barely stay up on skates :P


You obviously haven't watched Roy play have you?
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:49 AM

Meh, Connauton, who cares. He's never going anywhere in our system anyway. The second is too much IMO, unless he fits in here and MG can work the magic on him and sign him for a lot less than the $6+ mil a year he's reportedly looking for.

Funny to see kind of. MG finally cracks after the media abuse and gets us the rental he hates doing. I don't think he could stand the criticism on taking 2 years to find a center and had to do something.

I like the guy as a player though so I'll be happy to see him play at least. He's feisty, he can pass, and plays with a bit of grit. All things we needed.He might even get a game or two in at second line center until Kes is back.

Great trade, thank you gillis for getting what we needed without giving up a 1st in a deep draft


Yeah, at least we keep the first and we might even get a second or another first back in the Lou trade.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

Not speaking for anyone else but Roy is just "meh" IMO. Another small'ish 2nd 3rd line tweener. He's a band aid.

I was hoping for something more substantial and long term. Either a true top 6 playmaker or a bigger/meaner Ott-esque 3rd C.

He fill a much needed to be filled hole but ..."meh"


Yeah, because you can find those everywhere and for cheap!
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

Now i know that K-Con's upside will be undersold now, of course, but the fact of the matter is our player development is USELESS when we trade these guys before they pan out. And a 2nd rounder in this upcoming draft is fairly valueable as well.

Regardless of what Roy does for us, if Kesler doesn't return to God mode, this team is sunk.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

A first liner on Buffalo IS a 2-3 tweener on a good team. Where are they int the standings exactly?


Do you follow hockey? Buffalo's D is horrible and Miller has been terrible.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

jagr should have came with roy if it was a 2nd
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

This might work out if he resigns!

Kind of building the Munchkin club though!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

good deal
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

It's probably Bill Sweatt. The decision to call him up was rather random.


Raymond's injury and Sweatt came back from injury. Not random at all
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

You obviously don't follow the Canucks much.
Tanev, Corrado and Anderson are all going to be better.


Tanev is an NHL'er, not a prospect. None of our D prospects left are ready to step in the line-up this year or next year.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:50 AM

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:51 AM

Play-making center pushing Kesler to wing... check.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:51 AM

Gillis >>>>>>> All of you!!!


Yeah!!!
Good pick up at a good price.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:51 AM

Not a fan of this trade. Roy is a rental and MG just gave up our best D prospect and 2nd round pick. This years team is not going to win the Stanley Cup. This trade is not worth the price that was paid.
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:51 AM

Yeah, because you can find those everywhere and for cheap!


Didn't say it would be cheap...
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

Might as well trade D prospects not named corrado. They won't get a shot anyway
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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

Not a fan of this trade. Roy is a rental and MG just gave up our best D prospect and 2nd round pick. This years team is not going to win the Stanley Cup. This trade is not worth the price that was paid.


Connauton is by no means our best D prospect. Corrado, Mcnally are lightyears ahead of him.
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