Baggins Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Right, they transformed into COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLAYERS after they signed. Averaging 80 points a year the previous four years was chopped liver. After all, no one was waiting in Sweden to sign them away eh? Quit being deliberately obtuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I don't buy into Dregger's comments. To be honest I don't believe Mg offered up Luongo for Scrivs and 2 draftpicks. Total B.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 With respect to hindsight., speak for yourself eh. My friends and I thought that Gillis had to be sniffing inhalants the day he signed Luongo to that anchor contract-we still feel that way. We also were confounded by the way he handled the Sedins negotiations,. Again, THEN and NOW. There is NOTHING revisionist about this stuff. Quit pretending otherwise, it doesn't wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Well said Rupert, it is just that, the business side of the game. It is hard to separate yourself from the emotion we saw from Lou yesterday, I would, in fact, say it draws more people into viewing him more as "the victim". But if you take a step back, you realize there is no victim, it was a contract that was drawn up and seemed to be viable at the time, whether you view it as fortunate or unfortunate, the great play of CS, has now deemed it not such a great contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The only way I see this being true (Lu for Scrivs + 2 picks, repeated calls to TO during the last hour) is if MG was trying to accommodate Luongo and trying to move him, regardless of return, simply out of respect and appreciation for Roberto and what he's done for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 This is just it. Take CS out of the equation, and guess what, it's not such a bad deal. Without CS, anyone want to trade Lou for Mike Smith, Khabiboulin, Giguere, etc? Not me, I would like a bit more stay at home D to help the goalie out, but I am not naive enough to ride it all on one of these other goalies. We got fortunate enough to develop a goalie, maybe 2 if Lack turns out, and we happened to do it while/just after signing a franchise goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruthHurts Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He's an expensive "backup". He should be glad he's getting paid so much for doing little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 He's an expensive "backup". He should be glad he's getting paid so much for doing little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I love this one it is my favourite. So what you are saying is they are going to buy out one horrible contract then obtain another horrible contract by giving away Draft picks and like many others suggest, Couturier sweet deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 The Sedins were considered stars in league, while Lou was considered that next level: superstar. Lou AT THAT TIME was the only superstar on the team. As I originally said. When Lou re-signed in September 2009 the Sedins had a grand total of two 80 points seasons each and had only cracked the leagues top 20 in points once. It was the 09/10 season they made that step to superstars status AFTER Luongo had re-signed. That's not "transforming into completely different players". It's simply taking that next step. I have no doubt at all Burke had a pair of contracts in his briefcase when he flew over to Sweden. I even said so at the time. That didn't make the Sedins "superstars", it simply meant they were highly desirable pending ufa's. Both Hamhuis and Garrison were highly desirable ufa's who had several GM's making offers. That doesn't mean they're superstars though now does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Acknowledge, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc2001 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I still believe in him, he has a huge chance to prove he is the real deal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I still think LU> Schneider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primus099 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 .922>.904 .937>.919 I think you could give your thinking a check...js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kassians_fist Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Gillis has really mismanaged the entire goalie situation. Players are human. They play better when they know they have the support of their teammates, management, and fans. Luongo has been hung out to dry way too many times and the way he has handled everything speaks loads about his character. Think about how stressed out you would be if the future of your job, which would mean uprooting your family's entire life, was unknown and on the rocks for two years. Lu's done a ton for this organization and there seems to be almost zero loyalty to him which is crap and I'm tired of seeing MG embarrass him. MG needs to go, not Lu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 im just glad i still get to Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu once in a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 if his career stats are better than Luongo's byt the time he plays 730 games then say he's better That's like saying Matt Moulson is better than Pavel Datsyuk cause he has more points than him this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 if his career stats are better than Luongo's byt the time he plays 730 games then say he's better That's like saying Matt Moulson is better than Pavel Datsyuk cause he has more points than him this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vansicle Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 All those years spent debating about how Luongo isn't a team player, how he never takes the blame for things, how he sucked as a captain and never showed emotion after losses... etc. The guy has either really changed since then, or the media just chose to portray him in bad light after those back-to-back losses against Chicago. Could barely watch the entire interview. You really feel for him, he just wants to play the damn game and he honestly doesn't deserve all the crap that he's had to deal with since management decided to resign Schneider. As cliche as it sounds, money is important, but it doesn't buy happiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Canuck Lady Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 this whole situation reminds me those couples who get married right after high school. gillis commited to luongo during the 'puppy love' stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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