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Roy is not a rental, Booth won't be bought out next year


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So in all of the posts I have been reading on this board since Roy's acquisition about Roy being a rental, or we can't keep both Booth and Roy etc, etc I felt it prudent to centralize this specific discussion lest someone not see all the numbers line up.

Here goes:

Sedin (6.100) / Sedin (6.100) / Burrows (4.500) 16.700

Booth (4.250) / Roy (5.000) / Kesler (5.000) 14.250

Jensen (0.894) / Schroeder (1.025) / Kassian (0.870) 2.789

Higgins (2.500) / Gaunce (1.088) / Hansen (1.350) 4.938

38.677

Edler (5.000) / Tanev (1.200) 6.200

Hamhuis (4.500) / Bieksa (4.600) 9.100

Garrison (4.600) / Corrado (0.600) 5.200

20.500

Schneider (4.000)

Lack (0.750)

4.750

Cap Ceiling 2013-2014 = 64.300

Cap Hit 2013-2014 = 63.927

Remaining Cap Room: 0.373

The above assumes the following roster moves:

Player raises:

Pre-Negotiated

  • Alexandre Burrows: 4.500 AAV

  • Alexander Edler: 5.000 AAV

  • Chris Higgins 2.500 AAV

Proposed

  • Derek Roy: 5.000 AAV, Term 5 years (4.500 Year 1, 4.500 Year 2, 5.000 Year 3, 5.000 Year 4, 6.000 Year 5)

  • Jordan Schroeder: 1.025 AAV, Term 3 years (100% salary match, RFA Qualification)

  • Chris Tanev: 1.200 AAV, Term 3 years (1.00 Year 1, 1.200 Year 2, 1.400 Year 3)

Players on ELC:

  • Nicklas Jensen

  • Zack Kassian

  • Brendan Gaunce

  • Frank Corrado

Let walk as UFA:

  • Mason Raymond

  • Maxim Lapierre (or re-sign to a short 1-2 year contract worth what he's getting now if Gaunce is not ready)

Salary dumps for picks/prospects or amnesty buyouts:

  • Roberto Luongo (5.330 AAV)

  • Keith Ballard (4.250 AAV)

Gillis has a lot of flexibility when it comes to next season, I would be content with either of the following scenarios:

  1. Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, buyout Ballard

  2. Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, cap dump Ballard for a late pick

  3. Buyout Luongo and Ballard if no one bites at all

  4. Keep Luongo, trade Schneider for an impact forward for the T6 with equal or less salary coming back (Schneider for Couturier + Picks), Cap dump/buyout Ballard

I don't believe that Gillis is willing to give up on Booth just yet, not when he's suffered exceedingly bad luck every time he appears to be rounding the corner and putting together a complete game.

I also highly doubt Gillis would have given up KConn and a 2nd in a good draft if he wasn't certain he would be able to re-sign Roy.

With all players healthy and playing to potential, this is a very scary, skilled roster from top to bottom.

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F the cap decrease... wtf is this bull... as soon as canucks become a wealthy organization they put a cap? F the NHL ...

All those years I watched Detroit n avs hammer us and we spent half the money they did and now we get screwed because of the cap ...

Sorry had to vent. I hate the cap

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F the cap decrease... wtf is this bull... as soon as canucks become a wealthy organization they put a cap? F the NHL ...

All those years I watched Detroit n avs hammer us and we spent half the money they did and now we get screwed because of the cap ...

Sorry had to vent. I hate the cap

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There's a lot of assumptions in there. What if the young guys aren't ready?

Also, I'd rather have Raymond at 2.5-3.5 than have Booth at 4.25

Booth will need to go if you want to keep Roy.

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Gillis kept Luongo because he thinks he is going to cash in prior to the draft.

That marks one full year where Gillis has tried to dump his contract.

If I were the owner there is no way I am paying out Ballard and Luo just so the GM can continue on.

It is now the draft or bust for Gillis. Don't be surprised if the owners express their opinion should Gillis blow it again.

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So in all of the posts I have been reading on this board since Roy's acquisition about Roy being a rental, or we can't keep both Booth and Roy etc, etc I felt it prudent to centralize this specific discussion lest someone not see all the numbers line up.

Here goes:

Sedin (6.100) / Sedin (6.100) / Burrows (4.500) 16.700

Booth (4.250) / Roy (5.000) / Kesler (5.000) 14.250

Jensen (0.894) / Schroeder (1.025) / Kassian (0.870) 2.789

Higgins (2.500) / Gaunce (1.088) / Hansen (1.350) 4.938

38.677

Edler (5.000) / Tanev (1.200) 6.200

Hamhuis (4.500) / Bieksa (4.600) 9.100

Garrison (4.600) / Corrado (0.600) 5.200

20.500

Schneider (4.000)

Lack (0.750)

4.750

Cap Ceiling 2013-2014 = 64.300

Cap Hit 2013-2014 = 63.927

Remaining Cap Room: 0.373

The above assumes the following roster moves:

Player raises:

Pre-Negotiated

  • Alexandre Burrows: 4.500 AAV

  • Alexander Edler: 5.000 AAV

  • Chris Higgins 2.500 AAV

Proposed

  • Derek Roy: 5.000 AAV, Term 5 years (4.500 Year 1, 4.500 Year 2, 5.000 Year 3, 5.000 Year 4, 6.000 Year 5)

  • Jordan Schroeder: 1.025 AAV, Term 3 years (100% salary match, RFA Qualification)

  • Chris Tanev: 1.200 AAV, Term 3 years (1.00 Year 1, 1.200 Year 2, 1.400 Year 3)

Players on ELC:

  • Nicklas Jensen

  • Zack Kassian

  • Brendan Gaunce

  • Frank Corrado

Let walk as UFA:

  • Mason Raymond

  • Maxim Lapierre (or re-sign to a short 1-2 year contract worth what he's getting now if Gaunce is not ready)

Salary dumps for picks/prospects or amnesty buyouts:

  • Roberto Luongo (5.330 AAV)

  • Keith Ballard (4.250 AAV)

Gillis has a lot of flexibility when it comes to next season, I would be content with either of the following scenarios:

  1. Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, buyout Ballard

  2. Cap dump Luongo to Florida for picks and prospects, cap dump Ballard for a late pick

  3. Buyout Luongo and Ballard if no one bites at all

  4. Keep Luongo, trade Schneider for an impact forward for the T6 with equal or less salary coming back (Schneider for Couturier + Picks), Cap dump/buyout Ballard

I don't believe that Gillis is willing to give up on Booth just yet, not when he's suffered exceedingly bad luck every time he appears to be rounding the corner and putting together a complete game.

I also highly doubt Gillis would have given up KConn and a 2nd in a good draft if he wasn't certain he would be able to re-sign Roy.

With all players healthy and playing to potential, this is a very scary, skilled roster from top to bottom.

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I don't think having gaunce play 4th line minutes helps his NHL development out at all. I'd rather have him in the minors and Lappy. Also higgins at signing 2.5 extension to play on the 4th line doesn't make sense either, as much as I like booth I think it would be better to offload his contract and fill in some of are other holes.

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