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#31 morrissex95

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:34 PM

Nonis is insane if he'd consider trading Kadri out of Toronto right now. He's a huge part of the dressing room chemistry. They need to trade guys like Grabovski and start looking at a way to strengthen their D. Right now they're giving up the most shots in the league.

I wouldn't be surprise if they put in an offer on Yandle but that's a helluva of a price to pay. If this were true it means that Joe Colborne is coming up next year to knock our socks off.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:45 PM

Nonis is insane if he'd consider trading Kadri out of Toronto right now. He's a huge part of the dressing room chemistry. They need to trade guys like Grabovski and start looking at a way to strengthen their D. Right now they're giving up the most shots in the league.

I wouldn't be surprise if they put in an offer on Yandle but that's a helluva of a price to pay. If this were true it means that Joe Colborne is coming up next year to knock our socks off.


LOL. Good one.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:12 PM

Nonis is insane if he'd consider trading Kadri out of Toronto right now. He's a huge part of the dressing room chemistry. They need to trade guys like Grabovski and start looking at a way to strengthen their D. Right now they're giving up the most shots in the league.

I wouldn't be surprise if they put in an offer on Yandle but that's a helluva of a price to pay. If this were true it means that Joe Colborne is coming up next year to knock our socks off.


It's pretty much the exact same thing about Gillis offering Luongo to the Leafs for free. It's just as unbelievable. I rather go into the summer with a cap issue then trade him away for free.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:18 PM

Watters has had a huge grudge against TO since they fired him years ago. All he is doing is stirring up trouble, hoping that some believe him and that it causes some locker room unrest. Time to put Bill out to pasture.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:29 PM

i'll believe that when me crap turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:32 PM

Watters has had a huge grudge against TO since they fired him years ago. All he is doing is stirring up trouble, hoping that some believe him and that it causes some locker room unrest. Time to put Bill out to pasture.


It's just like Dregger having the grudge against us when Nonis was canned. goes both ways.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

Phoenix is dumb for not accepting.
Nonis is dumb for offering that trade
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:20 PM

Bogus.

Yandle's an alright defenseman but the only reason why they would offer those three things is if they get an elite level player - and Yandle is not elite.

Also, why would Toronto trade Frattin? He's no throw-in player.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:20 PM

I have a hard time believing this as well. I could see that being offered at the beginning of the season but can you imagine the backlash from Leaf fans if that did go down.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:43 PM

LOL! I already know it's false cause who would turn down a 1st round draft pick, a guy who's having a great season, almost a ppg and a B+ prospect. Nonis wouldn't even offer us a roster player, so I doubt it.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:44 PM

Phoenix is dumb for not accepting.
Nonis is dumb for offering that trade

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:27 AM

I like what Watters did there.
He makes a couple very good points.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

I like what Watters did there.
He makes a couple very good points.


Like "Hey TO, Vancouver can troll you and stir up media crap too" and "Mike Gillis says Hi, I'm going to work to put you out of a job"?
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:56 AM

Like "Hey TO, Vancouver can troll you and stir up media crap too" and "Mike Gillis says Hi, I'm going to work to put you out of a job"?


Like, hey, by alleging to disclose the details of trade talks Dreger is essentially undermining the professionalism (ie confidentiality of negotiations) and credibility of his relative/cousin Nonis, as much as it is an attempt to make GMMG look stupid. It gave me the impression that Dreger lost his grounding and valued taking a shot at Mike Gillis more than he values his own or Nonis' integrity.
In that context, I'm not inclined to buy Dreger's story either - he's overinvested.
If what Watters did sounds a bit absurd....he's clearly miming/mirroring Dreger.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 12:58 AM

LOL. Good one.


I wasn't joking...

Colborne is 6'5 he's got good hands on his last stint with the Maple Leafs he had 5 pts in 10 games, 4 PIM and he was +2. I watched 2 games that he played in on TV and he looked quite good. If he spends the offseason doing some intense work on his skating I could see him being a 40 point guy in his rookie season. Keep in mind, he's only 23 years old. He's also got 42 points in 65 games with the Toronto Marlies this season.

Now, do I think he'll ever be good as Kadri? It's highly unlikely as Kadri is rising star. Do I think he can be a solid 2nd line center in the NHL? Yes.

I think this trade is stupid because Toronto shouldn't disrupt the great chemistry and young talent they've got in that locker room. The guys there mesh really well and I don't see why they'd go out and hunt down Yandle when they've got a great young D in the wings by the name of Morgan Rielly.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:32 AM

Like, hey, by alleging to disclose the details of trade talks Dreger is essentially undermining the professionalism (ie confidentiality of negotiations) and credibility of his relative/cousin Nonis, as much as it is an attempt to make GMMG look stupid. It gave me the impression that Dreger lost his grounding and valued taking a shot at Mike Gillis more than he values his own or Nonis' integrity.
In that context, I'm not inclined to buy Dreger's story either - he's overinvested.
If what Watters did sounds a bit absurd....he's clearly miming/mirroring Dreger.


1) If you want to accomplish anything noble in the 21st century you've got to be cutthroat -- If I'm Dreger I don't care about my own personal feelings I care about getting a dramatic story out. Not only is the story dramatic it is probably true
2) If Dreger didn't run with the info that Nonis gave him he shouldn't have a job. Why should Dreger value Mike Gillis' feelings?
3) Nothing about this is harmful to Nonis' integrity.

A few things about Gillis:
1) He's painfully arrogant by far the worst of any GM OR Coach in the NHL -- that includes Brian Burke and John Tortorella
2) He's remarkably intelligent and innovative
3) He went on record on Sportsnet saying that there were "3-4 teams interested in Roberto Luongo"-- which was a huge lie
4) His arrogance, intelligence and innovativeness nearly got Luongo traded during the summer for far more than the deadline price. I know this for a fact -- if you want to know how I know you can PM me.
5) His arrogance prevented him from completing the Luongo transaction.
6) His arrogance has caused Luongo's trade value to plummet -- Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington, Toronto, Edmonton, etc. don't want to deal with a guy who keeps asking for more

Mike Gillis is a really smart guy and great GM. I know a lot of people here don't think so but he does a great job running this team. Mike Gillis is also so incredibly arrogant that it actually makes my ears bleed. When I saw him go on Sportsnet and change his fib from 3 to 4 teams mid sentence I nearly had a heart attack. What's my point? If I were in the media, I'd probably cast Gillis in a bad light too especially after Gillis compelled one of my colleagues to report something that was a complete lie.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

I wasn't joking...

Colborne is 6'5 he's got good hands on his last stint with the Maple Leafs he had 5 pts in 10 games, 4 PIM and he was +2. I watched 2 games that he played in on TV and he looked quite good. If he spends the offseason doing some intense work on his skating I could see him being a 40 point guy in his rookie season. Keep in mind, he's only 23 years old. He's also got 42 points in 65 games with the Toronto Marlies this season.

Now, do I think he'll ever be good as Kadri? It's highly unlikely as Kadri is rising star. Do I think he can be a solid 2nd line center in the NHL? Yes.

I think this trade is stupid because Toronto shouldn't disrupt the great chemistry and young talent they've got in that locker room. The guys there mesh really well and I don't see why they'd go out and hunt down Yandle when they've got a great young D in the wings by the name of Morgan Rielly.


I've seen Colborne enough in the AHL to not believe he will be anything more than a depth forward at the NHL level.

40 points as a rookie? Not in a million years.

He's played 3 years in the AHL already and has never been the best player on his team let alone the best forward. He had good potential in his draft year but it has not translated.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:44 AM

1) If you want to accomplish anything noble in the 21st century you've got to be cutthroat -- If I'm Dreger I don't care about my own personal feelings I care about getting a dramatic story out. Not only is the story dramatic it is probably true
2) If Dreger didn't run with the info that Nonis gave him he shouldn't have a job. Why should Dreger value Mike Gillis' feelings?
3) Nothing about this is harmful to Nonis' integrity.

A few things about Gillis:
1) He's painfully arrogant by far the worst of any GM OR Coach in the NHL -- that includes Brian Burke and John Tortorella
2) He's remarkably intelligent and innovative
3) He went on record on Sportsnet saying that there were "3-4 teams interested in Roberto Luongo"-- which was a huge lie
4) His arrogance, intelligence and innovativeness nearly got Luongo traded during the summer for far more than the deadline price. I know this for a fact -- if you want to know how I know you can PM me.
5) His arrogance prevented him from completing the Luongo transaction.
6) His arrogance has caused Luongo's trade value to plummet -- Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Washington, Toronto, Edmonton, etc. don't want to deal with a guy who keeps asking for more

Mike Gillis is a really smart guy and great GM. I know a lot of people here don't think so but he does a great job running this team. Mike Gillis is also so incredibly arrogant that it actually makes my ears bleed. When I saw him go on Sportsnet and change his fib from 3 to 4 teams mid sentence I nearly had a heart attack. What's my point? If I were in the media, I'd probably cast Gillis in a bad light too especially after Gillis compelled one of my colleagues to report something that was a complete lie.


One of the dumbest things I've read in a while. Being in Canucks.com I read a lot of dumb things. Even on hfboards.com epic dumbness. But what you typed is a gold medal win in dumbness posting. Mike Gillis is nothing but a class act with all the media scrutiny that has been attacking the Canucks the past 3 years. He never attacks the media, and keeps things professional. He's often on 1040 , much more often then When Burke or Nonis was here. Maybe he was standing his ground On luongos value, but he's doing whats best for his job.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:24 AM

Like, hey, by alleging to disclose the details of trade talks Dreger is essentially undermining the professionalism (ie confidentiality of negotiations) and credibility of his relative/cousin Nonis, as much as it is an attempt to make GMMG look stupid. It gave me the impression that Dreger lost his grounding and valued taking a shot at Mike Gillis more than he values his own or Nonis' integrity.
In that context, I'm not inclined to buy Dreger's story either - he's overinvested.
If what Watters did sounds a bit absurd....he's clearly miming/mirroring Dreger.

Why pick on Dreger you can add every CBC, TSN and Sportsnet commentator to the list. I have no problem with Nonis doing his job trying for the best deal for the Laffers. If he is still a little bitter with Gillis riding the core of the Canuck team he constructed I can understand that as well. Bottom line is that Gillis has added to the Canuck roster and he will sink or swim accordingly. He has his job to do as well. We don't really know what Gillis was asking in exchange for Lou. I will admit that the Laffers are looking pretty good right now. Adding Lou would have meant a possible extra round. There is no doubt that Reimer will likely buckle in CUP play. If he crashes badly Nonis will take the hit. The demand for Lou in June will be hugh from the TO brass at BCE. As per usual I will be rooting for a 4 and out for the Laffers.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:36 AM

If toronto offered this im sure pheonix would have pulled the trigger
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:46 AM

Why pick on Dreger you can add every CBC, TSN and Sportsnet commentator to the list. I have no problem with Nonis doing his job trying for the best deal for the Laffers. If he is still a little bitter with Gillis riding the core of the Canuck team he constructed I can understand that as well. Bottom line is that Gillis has added to the Canuck roster and he will sink or swim accordingly. He has his job to do as well. We don't really know what Gillis was asking in exchange for Lou. I will admit that the Laffers are looking pretty good right now. Adding Lou would have meant a possible extra round. There is no doubt that Reimer will likely buckle in CUP play. If he crashes badly Nonis will take the hit. The demand for Lou in June will be hugh from the TO brass at BCE. As per usual I will be rooting for a 4 and out for the Laffers.


Yes their are a bunch of idiots parroting each other on the Luongo issue, but apparently you missed who it was that is reporting this particular rumour/story and what my point was - I haven't been critical of Nonis, nor do I "blame" him for doing whatever he feels best serves the Leafs.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:34 PM

Not sure if TO is stupid for offering that or PHX for not taking it.
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