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#31 K_9

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

Kesler should be centre of the third line. Keep more offensive players in the top six.


Who on our squad has scored 40+ goals before other than Dank Sedin? Oh right.... Kesler.

He's better Defensively and Offensively than the rest of our forwards other than the Sedins.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:14 PM

Kesler is not a "shoot-first" instinct type player. His ego makes him think he his a perennial 40 goal scorer, thus trying to do everything himself (shoot vs pass)

He was not like this when he first broke out. 25g/50a

He utilized his line-mates, and sniped when needed.

If he wants to be this shooter type player, then he should play on the wing of fantastic playmaker Derek Roy.

We have no wingers with the playmaking acumen of Roy.


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:17 PM

That's cause it changes every shift!!


LOL... no kidding.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:41 PM

I like Kesler at a 3rd line center position. Look how pittsburgh is built. Deep down the middle. Surrounded by decent wingers. Thats how we should be built. Should of got a 2nd line winger for Roy. Now thats a proper forward core.


They tried with Clowe but,it wasn't to be.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:46 PM

Have Kesler as third line center when he first comes back. Let him ease into the line up...then in playoffs , play the crap out of him.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 06:56 PM

Have Kesler as third line center when he first comes back. Let him ease into the line up...then in playoffs , play the crap out of him.


lol, sounds good.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

I was against Kesler on the wing cause I wasnt sure how he'd do. But I'm open to it now. He likes to shoot and skates a thousand miles an hour. Being fed the puck on the fly might get him behind D-men on the fly more times than not.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:08 PM

Kesler on the wing? yeah on the PP only.

Stupid ideas like this is why many of you don't work in the NHL in any capacity...


Kesler was a natural winger until the Canucks trained him to play Center. Lack of thought is why you are at 10k + posts.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

Kesler on the wing? yeah on the PP only.

Stupid ideas like this is why many of you don't work in the NHL in any capacity...


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

If we were going to put Kesler on the wing he would with out a doubt play with the Sedin twins or Roy, no way we put him on the 3rd line. lol

Sedin - Sedin - Kesler
Higgins - Roy - Burrows
Raymond - Schroeder - Hansen
Sestito - Lapierre - Weise

Perhaps we could switch Higgs with Booth for a while after he comes back just to see how it plays out, maybe Booth would develop some chemistry with Roy and his scoring problems would be solved.. It's too bad we couldn't get this trade a little sooner though just to test things out, but oh well. Should be an interesting rest of the season at least. :P

NOTE: Kes and Bur could always switch roles as well if either line starts to dry up.

Edited by Kesler's Nose, 04 April 2013 - 07:53 PM.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:52 PM

There's nothing new about this debate, they can play Kesler at center or wing just like they did with Linden, but make no mistake Kesler is not a center, statistically when you compare his numbers to other canuck centers he doesn't come close to the 2-1 ratio of goals vs assists produced by most centers
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Ryan Kesler 154 188

Brendan Morrison 200 401
Andrew Cassels 204 528
Cliff Ronning 306 563
Murray Craven 266 493
Thomas Gradin 209 384

This isn't a criticsm, just an observation that Kesler who played right wing in college and was centered by Umberger, is simply not a puck distributer. You don't have to be an NHL scout to see that when you watch Kesler play, he simply doesn't have the vision or the passing skills of a center and would be more effective using his great speed off the wing. Kesler would probably have better numbers if he had a true puck distributing center feeding him.

Derek Roy 165 284

He can still play shut down from right wing just like Bob Gainey did.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:19 PM

Of course, you could let him take faceoffs and have him move to the wing once play starts, but then you miss out on his defensive play.


So what, wingers can't play defence? You know the Selke has been won by wingers before right?

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:29 PM

Interchangable or not; Kesler and Raymond on the third line?


Sir, what have you been inhaling.


Kesler on the third line yes, but not as a winger.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:11 PM

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:32 PM

Kesler was a natural winger until the Canucks trained him to play Center. Lack of thought is why you are at 10k + posts.


However defensively he's more useful and played his best season as a centre winning a selke trophy but thanks for coming out.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

Roy - Kesler would be a sick duo. Roy is basically a passing version of Kesler.

I really like how Roy plays with Hansen, and that was a great set-up for Higgins.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:10 PM

Watching Roy pass tonight I could almost picture Ryan unloading (for the wing) one of his passes.

Roy centering Ryan for sure. It has to be tried.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

With the Roy signing and Schroeder starting to look like an NHLer and given Burroughs, Raymond and Higgins are all capable of playing Centre there is absolutely no reason to play Kesler at Centre. He is simply not a "natural" centre......his first instincts are always to shoot rather than pass and he would be much better along the boards. Forward Line up should be:

Sedin, Sedin and Burrows
Higgins, Roy and Hansen (*)
Raymond, Schroeder, Kesler (*)
Pinnizzoto, LaPierre, Weise

(*) interchangeable


How about we put Kesler with Kassian and Raymond then have Hansen, Roy and Higgy on another line. See what a little bit of depth does to this team. They win 4-0 instead of losing 4-0.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

Kes can be our 3rd line centre. Thats where he was a beast.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

Watching Roy pass tonight I could almost picture Ryan unloading (for the wing) one of his passes.

Roy centering Ryan for sure. It has to be tried.


And who will be the 3rd and 4th line centers? Don't tell me Ebbett will be centering one of those lines. We need Kesler's faceoff skill against the bigger players and who could shut down lines and man his own line all on his own. No need to put everything in one basket.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:22 PM

Kes can be our 3rd line centre. Thats where he was a beast.


Kesler will be responsible to shut down top lines and score while Roy and Higgy go beast mode on offense.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

Do you have some sort of god complex that makes you think your ideas are worth spewing to cdc? Or are you just high?


Lemme guess, in the real world you're another one of those oh-so-biggie-toughie guys who still thinks it's cool to mouth off nasty at every kid shorter than you, right?

FYI, the bully routine is more than just very dated, it's lame.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

Get rid of Booth's ass and re-sign Roy. This team needs another play making center aside from the Sedins.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:24 PM

Kes can be our 3rd line centre. Thats where he was a beast.


And at his best!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:26 PM

Kesler on the third line yes, but not as a winger.

H. SEDIN
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KESLER

Kesler gets the top end defensive duties.


Holy, that would make us one of the top teams in terms of having high end center depth. If Roy keeps playing like a #1 center that he was in Buffalo and Kesler rounds into Selke form, we would have surpassed teams like Pittsburgh and LA when it comes to strength at the center position.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:30 PM

I like Kesler at a 3rd line center position. Look how pittsburgh is built. Deep down the middle. Surrounded by decent wingers. Thats how we should be built. Should of got a 2nd line winger for Roy. Now thats a proper forward core.


Pittsburgh is not "built" that way, they just have 2 megatalents named Crosby and Malkin.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:47 PM

Higgins - Roy - Hansen looked GREAT tonight. let Roy and Kesler play their natural positions, and let this trade do for us what it was meant to >> Give us Depth at the Center Position << with Kesler and Roy centring two different lines, wwe pretty much have two 2nd lines.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:48 PM

I honestly think we have too much depth now...I don't even know what to do after seeing the Higgins-Roy-Hansen line play. They were impressive. I also liked the line of Kassian-Lapierre-Jensen. Damn, I'm glad I ain't AV. How about this?

If we want to go skilled...
D Sedin H Sedin Burrows
Raymond Kesler Booth
Higgins Roy Jansen
Kassian Lapierre(Schroeder) Jensen


If we want to go grit..
D Sedin H Sedin Kassian
Hansen Roy Kesler
Burrows Raymond Higgins
Booth/Pinzotto Lapierre Weise/Sesito

I don't know man.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 01:54 AM

Eh...offensively Kesler is better off as a winger. No question there. But his defensive contributions are immense as well and will certainly be diminished with a move to wing. I think I'd be a lot more inclined to move him over if one of the other guys was more of a defensive center to compensate. But they aren't. Roy is fine defensively but it isn't his primary strength. Sedin is offense first. That really leaves us wanting for what Kesler brings as a center. His contributions in this role outweigh any added offensive contributions.

And in any case, if we move Kesler we're right back to having a giant hole on the third line. Schroeder has a reasonably bright future but he's clearly not ready yet. He's still massively inconsistent night to night. And Lapierre lacks the offensive ability to be anything but a fourth liner. I mean, he could fill in as a third liner (as he's been doing) but it is far, far from ideal. And at the end of the day, the center position is the most important. Your centers make your wingers better. I'd much rather have three excellent centers than two centers and a great winger.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:11 AM

Depth gives options.There is no way of any of us knowing the truly "best" way without actually seeing it tested out in real games. We can discuss it, but there is no point in calling eachother morons because one says he would be better served on the wing and another says he's better at centre. I'd like to see all the viable options tried out if time permits. I'm just excited to see our C depth be better again.
Sedin, Kesler, Roy, Schroeder. Lapierre, Pinizzoto, Ebbett, and with Burrows, Higgins, and Raymond also able to play C if called upon (but not ideally). That's some pretty solid depth down the middle.




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