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#61 RunningWild

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:13 PM

But what do you blame the affiliate for? They only sign the contracts... it's the coach who chooses to put them in or not. Right now it's not working.


Pressure to win hockey games over development. I think it all stems from them, and Arneils choosing veterans cause he thinks they give them the best chance to win.
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:21 PM

Game over. Final score: 5-2 Barons.

Shots: 47-28 Barons

Powerplays: Chicago (1/3), Oklahoma City (1/4)

1st period scoring:

No scoring.

2nd period scoring:

CHI Sterling 22 (Groulx, Schroeder)(PP) 3:16
CHI Gordon 18 (Sterling, Haydar) 4:22
OKC Hartikainen 14 (Arcobello, Fedun) 9:27

3rd period scoring:

OKC Martindale 6 (Pitlick, Hotham) 9:26
OKC Rajala 12 (Hartikainen, Stafford) 10:19
OKC Rajala 13 (Arcobello, Hartikainen)(PP) 14:50
OKC Cornet 13 (Arcobello, Cheechoo)(EN) 19:37


Three Stars: (1) OKC Teemu Hartikainen, (2) OKC Toni Rajala, (3) OKC Mark Arcobello
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 05:55 PM

For me, it's both. It's the Wolves organization in general.

Pressure to win hockey games over development. I think it all stems from them, and Arneils choosing veterans cause he thinks they give them the best chance to win.


Sure they want to win, but I mean, so did the Moose. I don't think anyone ever complained about them then when Arniel was there.

If we replaced him with a better coach we'd probably see better results and more prospects at the same time. I feel the Wolves' signings only highlighted a problem that was already there to begin with - the lack of centers on the farm. Don't forget, Desbiens was signed by the Nucks because Arniel requested it too. Even Vandermeer is Nucks property.

But I don't think it's realistic to expect an AHL team to be filled completely with young guys. You need the Sterlings and Mathesons to provide leadership and experience. The only problem is the other guys that the coach keeps playing - Longpre, Groulx, Kattelus etc.

The biggest problem really is the misuse of players this year, much like what we've seen on the Canucks. When Haydar keeps turning the puck over at the point for shorthanded breakaways and still gets put out thee in that same position time and time again, that's entirely on the coach and not someone like Young.

Edited by Canvoucer Vanuck, 07 April 2013 - 06:02 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 06:07 PM

Sure they want to win, but I mean, so did the Moose. I don't think anyone ever complained about them then when Arniel was there.

If we replaced him with a better coach we'd probably see better results and more prospects at the same time. I feel the Wolves' signings only highlighted a problem that was already there to begin with - the lack of centers on the farm. Don't forget, Desbiens was signed by the Nucks because Arniel requested it too. Even Vandermeer is Nucks property.

But I don't think it's realistic to expect an AHL team to be filled completely with young guys. You need the Sterlings and Mathesons to provide leadership and experience. The only problem is the other guys that the coach keeps playing - Longpre, Groulx, Kattelus etc.

The biggest problem really is the misuse of players this year, much like what we've seen on the Canucks. When Haydar keeps turning the puck over at the point for shorthanded breakaways and still gets put out thee in that same position time and time again, that's entirely on the coach and not someone like Young.


Nothing wrong with this post. Can't say I disagree.

The only thing I will say is that although the Moose wanted to win too, they still signed far less players on AHL only contracts. There wasn't nearly as big a logjam of those guys to block prospects from getting regular spots in the lineup. I agree with the premise of your post though.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:55 AM

another point for schroeder. Looks like he has taken his game to a new level.


Yeah some players just need that little spark of opportunity to get that focus back on what exactly they should be doing to get back to the next level.

He's a much better player because of his time here and it is nice to see. I think he will come into camp next year and nail down a spot,
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:00 AM

Game over. Final score: 5-2 Barons.

Shots: 47-28 Barons


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