vv2 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Everyone ignoring the part that is true. The Canucks defense can be very very bad at times. Good two-way players, but I'd rather have a defenseman who can handle his own end first. Edler and Bieksa... nightmare. Garrison good, but lacks consistency. Tanev has been great. Hamhuis has trailed off a bit defensively. Ballard doesn't play and Barker/Alberts can easily get exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Skill > all. That's it buddy. Stop being so pessimistic, go cheer for the Penguins then. Oh wait, they're arguably the "least tough" team in the NHL. Guess they won't be getting past the 2nd round. Stupid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Didn't even hit him in the front of his face, it was on the side of his head, lol. Dive. But yeah it's a high stick but Sedin sold it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Ahhh, it's one of these threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Ok we need toughness to win.. so lets get big tough guys on our whole roster and scratch the sedins. Lets get garth snow as our goalie aswell cuz toughness wins in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Hamhuis can handle his own end first lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Even this guy can clearly see the OP is troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Everyone ignoring the part that is true. The Canucks defense can be very very bad at times. Good two-way players, but I'd rather have a defenseman who can handle his own end first. Edler and Bieksa... nightmare. Garrison good, but lacks consistency. Tanev has been great. Hamhuis has trailed off a bit defensively, but he's been good. Ballard doesn't play and Barker/Alberts can easily get exposed. Hawks: Keith - Norris winner, can play in his own end. Seabrook - Defense first, but can chip in points Hjalmarsson - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Oduya - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Leddy - Offensive defenseman Rozsival - Veteran two-way defender (Salo-esque) Ducks: Beauchemin - Shutdown defenseman with big shot. Souray - Offensive defenseman with big shot. Fowler - Offensive defenseman Sbisa - Shut-down defenseman who can chip in points. Allen - Shutdown defenseman Lydman - Mobile shutdown defenseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferlands_Head Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Everyone ignoring the part that is true. The Canucks defense can be very very bad at times. Good two-way players, but I'd rather have a defenseman who can handle his own end first. Edler and Bieksa... nightmare. Garrison good, but lacks consistency. Tanev has been great. Hamhuis has trailed off a bit defensively, but he's been good. Ballard doesn't play and Barker/Alberts can easily get exposed. Hawks: Keith - Norris winner, can play in his own end. Seabrook - Defense first, but can chip in points Hjalmarsson - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Oduya - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Leddy - Offensive defenseman Rozsival - Veteran two-way defender (Salo-esque) Ducks: Beauchemin - Shutdown defenseman with big shot. Souray - Offensive defenseman with big shot. Fowler - Offensive defenseman Sbisa - Shut-down defenseman who can chip in points. Allen - Shutdown defenseman Lydman - Mobile shutdown defenseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jag Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 he has a point but we will only win with a skill game thats our system. We got tougher by reducing our skill but also added roy to make up for malhotra and hansen raymond are back to 2011 form. We can be dangerous because we have the biggest intangible of all goaltending. U telling me that after lu played garbage in boston that shnieds wouldnt play game 6 this time? We probably win the cup if schnieds played just because they had a book on how to play us with him there. Schnieds playing in his hometown is money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Everyone ignoring the part that is true. The Canucks defense can be very very bad at times. Good two-way players, but I'd rather have a defenseman who can handle his own end first. Edler and Bieksa... nightmare. Garrison good, but lacks consistency. Tanev has been great. Hamhuis has trailed off a bit defensively, but he's been good. Ballard doesn't play and Barker/Alberts can easily get exposed. Hawks: Keith - Norris winner, can play in his own end. Seabrook - Defense first, but can chip in points Hjalmarsson - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Oduya - Mobile, shut-down defenseman Leddy - Offensive defenseman Rozsival - Veteran two-way defender (Salo-esque) Ducks: Beauchemin - Shutdown defenseman with big shot. Souray - Offensive defenseman with big shot. Fowler - Offensive defenseman Sbisa - Shut-down defenseman who can chip in points. Allen - Shutdown defenseman Lydman - Mobile shutdown defenseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Kane Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I agree about Seabs and Keith; however, Hjalmarsson isn't that great, Rozsival is nowhere near Salo-esq, and Oduya isn't all that great either. As for Canucks, the only reason Hamhuis is playing poorly this season is because he's spending too much effort chipping in offensively, as the team struggles to find scoring. If it wasn't: Hamhuis- Shutdown D Bieksa- Shutdown D with offensive capabilities Garrison- Shutdown D with offensive capabilities Edler- Offensive D Tanev- Shutdown D Ballard- I don't know what he is, frankly. Edit: error on Rozsival; better defensively, lightyears away offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks_fo_life Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Then go away and don't watch, it's that simple. GO CANUCKS GO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksSayEh Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Its up to Edler and Kes not to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Then go away and don't watch, it's that simple. GO CANUCKS GO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 In a ideal world, that would be true. Bieksa/Hamhuis 2010/11 was one of the best pairing in the NHL. After that, you had Edler-Salo... Not bad, if Edler could play in his own end from time to time. Then Ehrhoff-Rome/Alberts/Ballard... Needed a true shut-down guy with Ehrhoff. Garrison, Bieksa, Hamhuis and Tanev have a reputation of being able to be shutdown defenders. I believe if Bieksa picks up his game and returns to 2010/11 form, and Garrison can stabilize Edler like Hamhuis does to Bieksa, then the D-core is looking solid. Also for Hjalmarsson and Oduya not being that great.. they aren't flashy, but they are a legit shutdown pairing, and have been so valuable to the Hawks this year. You need guys who provide nothing but defense, like Scuderi, Mitchell, Gill, Hjalmmer, Oduya, McQuiad, Ference, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo Fring Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Dude, amber. This isnt july 2011. Gillis addressed the toughness aspect to some degree. Go back to your hot tub time machine and maybe watch some games this year where the sedins had pushback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrene Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Blackhawks forum is dead I assume? Probably. Fanbase not even close to what we have. Ok ok we get it... Canucks defence sucks. Ok ok. You made your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lots of cheerleaders on these boards. A true fan recognizes problems and offers solutions. You will be disappointed if you have rose coloured glasses. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Kovalchuk. Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Lol, homers will be homers. If anyone thinks Canucks will get past 2nd round clearly doesn't know crap about hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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