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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:15 AM

as a Scot, not too upset at all

http://news.sky.com/...es-after-stroke

Baroness Thatcher, Britain's Iron Lady, has died after suffering a stroke at the age of 87.
Her children Mark and Carol Thatcher announced that their mother had died peacefully following a stroke this morning.

Speaking to Sky News, spokesman and friend Lord Bell, who announced her death, said: "We’ll never see the like of her again. She was one of the great prime ministers of all time and transformed people's lives."
He described the former prime minister, a grocer's daughter from Grantham, as the greatest leader of the Conservative Party with the exception of Winston Churchill.

He said: "She was just a fantastic person – extraordinary charisma, very focused, loved her country, loved being in government and dedicated her life to making people’s lives better …I think history will remember her very kindly."

Prime Minister David Cameron paid tribute saying: "It was with great sadness that I learned of Lady Thatcher's death. We've lost a great leader, a great Prime Minister and a great Briton."
Mr Cameron, who was meeting EU leaders in Spain, will return home early and is expected to arrive back in the country this afternoon.

A statement from Buckingham Palace said: "The Queen was sad to hear the news of the death of Baroness Thatcher. Her Majesty will be sending a private message of sympathy to the family."

Downing Street announced that she would receive a full ceremonial funeral with honours at St Paul's Cathedral.

Lady Thatcher, Britain's first and only woman prime minister, had become increasingly frail and was suffering ill health in recent years.

She suffered several small strokes in 2002 and was advised not to accept further public speaking engagements.

Her increasingly frail condition when she was seen - especially after the death of husband Denis in 2003 - led to frequent bouts of speculation about her health.

However, MPs and friends who saw her regularly said she remained alert and interested in politics, and she was not known to have deteriorated notably recently.

She was admitted to hospital shortly before Christmas where she underwent an operation to remove a growth from her bladder but was allowed to return home before new year.

Prime minister between 1979 and 1990, she has been credited with transforming a nation in one decade, putting Britain back among the leading industrial nations of the world.

She became loved and loathed in equal measure as she crushed the unions and privatised vast swathes of British industry, as she led the Tories to three election victories.

She was nicknamed the Iron Lady by a Russian journalist in 1976 for her opposition to Soviet communism. It is a moniker that stuck, and which privately she was thought to enjoy, and was the title of a film in which Meryl Streep took the title role, which was released in 2011.

She was also memorably described by the then French president Francois Mitterrand with the back-handed compliment that she had the "eyes of Caligula and the mouth of Marilyn Monroe".

But perhaps the defining moment of her career will be the decision to send a taskforce to the Falklands on April 2, 1982 after Argentina invaded.

The former Labour prime minister Tony Blair said: “Margaret Thatcher was a towering political figure. Very few leaders get to change not only the political landscape of their country but of the world. Margaret was such a leader. Her global impact was vast.

"And some of the changes she made in Britain were, in certain respects at least, retained by the 1997 Labour Government, and came to be implemented by governments around the world.

"As a person she was kind and generous spirited and was always immensely supportive to me as Prime Minister although we came from opposite sides of politics.

"Even if you disagreed with her as I did on certain issues and occasionally strongly, you could not disrespect her character or her contribution to Britain’s national life. She will be sadly missed."

Former Conservative prime minister Sir John Major described Baroness Thatcher as a "true force of nature" and a "political phenomenon".

He said: "In government, the UK was turned around under - and in large measure because of - her leadership.
"Her reforms of the economy, trades union law, and her recovery of the Falkland Islands elevated her above normal politics, and may not have been achieved under any other leader."

Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg said: "Margaret Thatcher was one of the defining figures in modern British politics.

"Whatever side of the political debate you stand on, no-one can deny that as prime minister she left a unique and lasting imprint on the country she served.

"She may have divided opinion during her time in politics but everyone will be united today in acknowledging the strength of her personality and the radicalism of her politics."

Despite her toughness, few will forget the pictures of Baroness Thatcher leaving Downing Street for the last time with her husband, Sir Denis, and tears in her eyes.

Lady Thatcher believed in hard work. The daughter of grocer Alfred Roberts she achieve academically and went on to gain a degree in Chemistry at Oxford University, where she became president of the university's Conservative Association.

On leaving she worked as a research chemist but in February 1951 she was adopted as Conservative candidate for Dartford and at a dinner that day she met the wealthy and divorced businessman, Denis Thatcher. They married later that year.

He supported her during her unsuccessful campaigns for the seat and during her studies to become a barrister. She qualified in 1953, the same year she gave birth to twins Mark and Carol.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:41 AM

I actually saw her once. Outside a international trade office in Prague.Completely by chance we were walking by and asked a British camera man what everyone was waiting around for and he said the British Prime Minister is expected to leave the building in a few minutes so we waited and saw her. That was in the fall of 1990 when we were backpacking across Europe.

Very few people have left as big of a mark on the world as she did. Quite a life.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

Francis Urquhart > Margaret Thatcher.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:04 AM

Her accomplishments as a PM were average at best.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:15 AM

Her accomplishments as a PM were average at best.


I would agree - and although I strongly disagree with her party politics and what she did to workers - her mark on this planet for women and feminism is undeniable. She furthered the image that women could lead a country and could lead an army. How she is remembered now that she is gone will be left to the History books - but the doors she opened to female politicians seeking office is without question one of the better things she will be remembered for.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

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In all honesty though, Rest in Peace Mrs. Thatcher. The Iron Woman.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:13 AM

Lady. The iron lady.
meanwhile random tweet by: #nowthatcherisdead
has cher fans in mourning...

Edited by nucklehead, 08 April 2013 - 10:42 AM.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:52 PM


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:03 PM

I don't know a single person here who liked her, and I'm not upset about it myself. I won't celebrate her death as some are doing though.

Social media is covered with posts from people my age or younger who weren't even born during her term as Prime Minister. It's like it's become fashionable to abuse her.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

In 2010, the University of Leeds and Woodnewton Associates carried out a survey of 106 academics who specialised in British politics and/or British history since 1945 and ranked Thatcher (1979–1990) Number 2 behind Clement Atlee (1945-51).

In 2004, the University of Leeds and Ipsos Mori conducted an online survey of 258 academics who specialised in 20th-century British history and/or politics and Thatcher was Number Four behind Atlee, Churchill and Blair.

In December 1999 a BBC Radio 4 poll of 20 prominent historians, politicians and commentators for The Westminster Hour produced the verdict that Churchill was the best British Prime Minister of the 20th century, with Lloyd George in second place, Clement Attlee in third place, Herbert Asquith in fourth place and Thatcher in fifth place.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

Meh.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

Francis Urquhart > Margaret Thatcher.


Probably the most irritating TV character of all time

The American House of Cards is way better

As for Ms. Thacher, RIP. Great leader, great woman.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:59 PM


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:08 PM

For her hand in the Hillsborough disaster I ain't too sad about her finally croaking
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:16 PM

Argentina is "happy" about this...

maybe now they (Argentina) shut up about Falklands....
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

While she may be hated, subsequent British PMS did not reverse her policies. And that includes Tony Blair, the Labour PM.
The power of Unions were not restored nor were British Businesses hampered by higher taxes.
The economy of Britain was practically bankrupt before she arrived. Thanks to her, Britain is now in better economic shape than many of her fellow countries in the EU.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js

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While she may be hated, subsequent British PMS did not reverse her policies. And that includes Tony Blair, the Labour PM.
The power of Unions were not restored nor were British Businesses hampered by higher taxes.
The economy of Britain was practically bankrupt before she arrived. Thanks to her, Britain is now in better economic shape than many of her fellow countries in the EU.

At 70% of her fellow Brits expense. Wonder who the other 30% were? Oh ya, the rich. Typical Conservatives.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:11 PM

I would agree - and although I strongly disagree with her party politics and what she did to workers - her mark on this planet for women and feminism is undeniable. She furthered the image that women could lead a country and could lead an army. How she is remembered now that she is gone will be left to the History books - but the doors she opened to female politicians seeking office is without question one of the better things she will be remembered for.

I would submit that what she proved was the SHE could lead a country and an army into hell. This in itself did very little to further the cause of feminism.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:33 PM

London neighbourhood throws party for Thatcher's death
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Hundreds of people on Monday took to the main square in Brixton, an area of south London which suffered serious rioting in the 1980s, to celebrate the death of former prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

Holding notices saying "Rejoice -- Thatcher is dead", around 200 people

gathered in the neighbourhood, a hotspot of alternative culture, and toasted her passing by drinking and dancing to hip-hop and reggae songs blaring from sound systems.

"I'm very, very pleased. She did so much damage to this country," said one man brandishing an original newspaper billboard from 1990 announcing Thatcher's resignation.
Others scrawled "Good Riddance" on the pavement.
"We've got the bunting out at home," said Clare Truscott, a woman in her 50s wearing a sparkly beret and holding a homemade sign reading "Ding dong, the witch is dead".
"I'm from the north, where there were no jobs, where the industry was rapidly disappearing, and her policies ensured it went more quickly."
Brixton was the scene of fierce riots in 1981, two years after Thatcher became prime minister.
Carole Roper, a full-time carer in her 50s from north London, said: "We're here to celebrate her death."
Sipping from a can of beer, she insisted: "I don't think it's vindictive -- it's not so much about the death of Thatcher but what she has done, the policies she introduced to this country.
"Compare the coverage to that when Chavez died -- she's being eulogised. It's been wall to wall coverage on the BBC but she did nothing to help the poor people of this country."
Meanwhile, in the Scottish city of Glasgow more than 300 people gathered to hold their own impromptu "party".
Anti-capitalist campaigners shouted, "Maggie, Maggie, Maggie" while the crowd replied "dead, dead, dead".
The crowd also broke into a chorus of "So long, the witch is dead" while drinking champagne.
Thatcher, the controversial "Iron Lady" who dominated a generation of British politics and won international acclaim for helping to end the Cold War, died following a stroke on Monday. She was 87.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:05 AM


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:32 AM

So basically... everyone who hates her does so because they don't agree with her politically.
Kinda sad and pitiful...
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:49 PM

While she may be hated, subsequent British PMS did not reverse her policies. And that includes Tony Blair, the Labour PM.
The power of Unions were not restored nor were British Businesses hampered by higher taxes.
The economy of Britain was practically bankrupt before she arrived. Thanks to her, Britain is now in better economic shape than many of her fellow countries in the EU.


Her domestic policies are none of our business, but her support for Reagan foreign policy, Pinochet's iron fisted regime in Chile and apartheid in South Africa are reason enough to hold her in much contempt.

As far as domestic policy goes, the British people get the government that they deserve by voting for her in the first place.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:00 PM

Prime Minster Harper is to attend the Thatcher funeral. What no Giant Pandas to greet???

And even Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip will attend - something they rarely do - the last funeral of a former British PM they attended was Sir Winston Churchill almost half a century ago (in 1965) .


Prime Minister Stephen Harper will attend the funeral of former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher next week, his spokesman said Tuesday.


The funeral for Thatcher, who died Monday of a stroke, will be held April 17 at St. Paul's Cathedral in London.


Harper's spokesman tweeted the news Tuesday afternoon.


"Former [prime minister Brian] Mulroney has been invited to be a part of the Canadian delegation," Andrew MacDougall said on the social media site.



Thatcher is revered by many Conservative officials. In a statement Monday, Harper spoke glowingly of Thatcher's contribution to conservatism.


On Tuesday, the prime minister signed a book of condolences for Thatcher at the British High Commission.


"Canada deeply mourns the passing of Margaret Thatcher, a great friend of our country. Hers was a leadership example for the ages, from which we all benefit to this day — and will for many more to come," he wrote.


Buckingham Palace announced Wednesday that Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip will attend the ceremonial funeral on April 17. It is the first time the Queen has attended a funeral for one of her former prime ministers since Winston Churchill's in 1965.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:11 PM

RIP Maggie...RIP



What a sad state the human race really is in when you see people cheering over someone's death.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

Thatcher was the revolutionary social and economic architect of modern Britain

By Jonathan Manthorpe, Vancouver SunApril 9, 2013


Margaret Thatcher 1925 - 2013
Margaret Thatcher was Britain's most important political and social revolutionary since Oliver Cromwell in the 17th century.
Cromwell laid the groundwork for Britain's emergence as a parliamentary democracy.
Thatcher forced Britain, kicking and screaming, to abandon its tired and tattered security blanket of a class-ridden and hierarchical society.
In the 1970s, Britain had descended into a grim and grey servitude under the Orwellian authority of intrusive national and local governments, moribund state-owned industries, and the often manic ideological Jacobinism of the trade unions.
In her 11 years as Britain's first - and so far only - female prime minister, Thatcher brought a storm of creative destruction to the country's political, social and economic landscape.
By the time she was forced from office in 1990 by her Conservative Party colleagues - who had become convinced she had lost her political touch - Thatcher had turned Britain into the meritocracy it is today. And she had restored its position as a capital of finance and innovation it had not held since the heyday of empire in the 19th century.
Thatcher always said she learned her simple faith in the power of a free-market economy watching her father run the family store in the small Midlands town of Grantham.
And accolades for her great success in turning Britain from the basket case beholden to the International Monetary Fund when she led the Conservative Party to victory in 1979, to the muscular world-class economy she bequeathed to her successors, usually focus on her privatization of state-owned companies.
She began her economic reforms in 1979 with a shift on taxation away from incomes and toward consumption, which she considered more fair because it was based on choice.
Income tax rates were cut dramatically and replaced by a near doubling of the value-added tax, the sales tax, to 15 per cent.
She did indeed sell off companies like British Telecom, British Gas, Rolls-Royce, British Airways, British Coal, British Steel, and regional water authorities.
But what enabled Britain to become a nation of shareholders was a move by Thatcher that is often overlooked or downplayed, but which may have been the most important strand in her revolution.
That was her decision to force municipalities to sell their rental public housing to the tenants if they wanted to buy.
By the time Thatcher took office in 1979, the proportion of what is known in Britain as "council housing" had reached 50 per cent of the nation's entire housing stock.
The sell-off not only gave the new owners a real stake in their communities and society, it fundamentally changed the relationship between citizens and their government.
It also gave them equity.
That translated into a boom in the housing market, and also a surge of investment as new homeowners turned their collateral into businesses and stock portfolios.
Those benefits were not immediately evident. In Thatcher's first years of restructuring the economy, unemployment in Britain rose to its highest level since the recession of the 1930s.

Many of Thatcher's Tory colleagues became wobbly, and urged her to follow the example of the former Conservative Prime Minister Edward Heath who had performed a U-turn and reversed market reforms in 1972 in the face of public disquiet.
But Thatcher responded at a party conference in 1980 with a phrase that came to embody her steely determination: "You turn if you must," she said. "The lady's not for turning."
Thatcher had no time for fools or the weak-willed, who by early 1982 included enough of her backbenchers to be a problem.
The invasion of the Falkland Islands by the Argentine military regime in April 1982 not only silenced her critics, it became the defining moment of her leadership.
Outraged at the incompetence of her foreign ministry and despite advice from military leaders that retaking the islands might not be feasible, Thatcher ordered the sending of an expeditionary force.
By any measure, the retaking of the Falkland Islands in a brief and utterly decisive war was an extraordinary feat of arms.
Thatcher tripled her majority in the House of Commons in the 1983 election.
With the heads of the Argentine junta in her trophy room, Thatcher turned her attention to the still very powerful British trade unions.
The confrontation came to a head with a coal miners' strike in 1984 and 1985. Thatcher refused to budge, and in the end the miners, led by Arthur Skargill, went back to work having achieved nothing.
The unions have never regained the political power they lost in that strike.
On the world stage, Thatcher's friendship and political partnership with U.S. President Ronald Reagan defined international affairs of the late-1980s.
It was Thatcher who first decided that new Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev was someone the West could "do business" with.
Reagan followed her lead and stayed engaged with Gorbachev through the orchestrated collapse of the Soviet Union.
Not surprisingly in the circumstances, it was Soviet journalists who first gave Thatcher the name by which history remembers her: "The Iron Lady."
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

Ding Dong. Say's it all really.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

They've always refused to release the official police report on Hillsborough on request of Thatcher herself, she pretty much brushed it aside and refused to talk about it and used her power even when she wasn't in office to keep those papers sealed. The families of the victims have been trying to get their hands on those papers for decades so they can finally know what took place, the investigations were largely obfuscated and information was intentionally hidden. She was aware of how full of garbage the police reports were and went to lengths to keep it under wraps.

I hope she's warm where she is now

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:52 PM

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:14 AM

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