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#31 ccc44

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:52 PM

Nonis is a douche for pulling this dick move. You can be sure the other GMs have taken notice of his bull as well. It's a small community, the 30 GMs of the league, and everything you do gets noticed by everyone else.

I did not and do not believe for a second that Scrivens and 2 second-round picks was what Gillis asked for from Toronto. As noted in the article, it just doesn't add up. It makes absolutely no logical sense for a contending team to make that move, and considering the moves Gillis has made in the past, I doubt the truth of what Dreger said even more.

Dreger is usually a very reliable source, but in this case he was probably misinformed by that troll Dave Nonis.

Or GMs around the league are celebrating him getting back his former employers for screwing him over when they fired him
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:53 PM

Those saying this isn't true... y hasn't mg come out and publicly said that dreger is bsing? ?
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:54 PM

Dreger is just Nonis' puppet.

There is no way in hell Roberto Luongo's trade value is equal to Douglas Murray's. Can't wait to see the Leafs get smacked around in the playoffs, that's if they make it in.


They're pretty much a lock to make it in, but if the positions stay the same they get Boston in the first round. Goodnight sweet prince if that happens
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

Gillis is well known to use the media to spin his side of things.
Nobody here can say what went down.
Using 'second cousin' status as some insider source revealing everything is laughable.
I don't know any of my first cousins,never mind my seconds.
Dave: "Geez,Darren,you are my second cousin so I am going to ruin my reputation so that you can get a story."
Yeah.

Not all families are like that , Im close with a lot of my first and second cousins
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:56 PM

Those saying this isn't true... y hasn't mg come out and publicly said that dreger is bsing? ?

Its a distraction so why would he , Not saying its not true but to acknowledge it would not be a good idea right now

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:59 PM

I don't know if Nonis negotiated in bad faith. Think about it...the buyer has all the control. He's not doing what anyone else considering a major purchase wouldn't do. It's like looking at that shiny new car on the lot and having a conversation about the price with the salesman and after he's shown his hand with his offer to you in order to meet your price, then you come back "one more thing" at the last minute by telling him to take another grand off and throw in the rust proofing. I just think Nonis was within his right to do it and if he were my teams' GM I'd want him to do that.

Now having said that, Nonis had the chance to get his franchise goalie for the next 5 years for essentially a bag of pucks and he got greedy. I hope now that Lui doesn't go to the Leafs this summer and preferably to a division competitor.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:07 PM

Gillis is well known to use the media to spin his side of things.
Nobody here can say what went down.
Using 'second cousin' status as some insider source revealing everything is laughable.
I don't know any of my first cousins,never mind my seconds.
Dave: "Geez,Darren,you are my second cousin so I am going to ruin my reputation so that you can get a story."
Yeah.


Hmmm....I wonder if any of them could possibly be Canucks fans and appreciate our team or our GM?
If that's the case, with your Debbie Downer attitude i'm not surprised if that's on purpose on their part....
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:08 PM

Never like Dregs even before Nonis came on the scene. Always a Leaf homer.

I really can't see Gillis taking Scrivens and 2 seconds for Lu unless he really thinks he absolutely can't unload him. If that were true, the Nucks are really sunk.

I'm quite happy Lu didn't go to TO. Lu would have elevated their play and probably get them to round 2 or 3. The Leafs fired Burke to soon and now Nonis is reaping the benefits (just like in Van). I predict a repeat of the Van situation within 2 years or less. Nonis is horibad at making trades and drafting players.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:25 PM

Dave Nonis negotiating in bad faith. frack you Nonis. Wether its true or not, your not suppose to disclose what was mentioned, especially to someone like Dregger.

Karma will hit Dave Nonis.

Derren Dregger now changing the story around from saying MIke Gillis would have never asked for 2 draft picks and Scrivens for Luongo. What a Clown. This came 5 days after 1040 reported the opposite happening. People are starting to believe that MIke Gillis will never give up Luongo for 2 2nds and one unproven goalie. Making Dreggers story look as stupid as he looks.

Also if it was true, oh gosh, Dave Nonis you deserve to be canned. Luongo was almost his for a pretty low price. Tyler Biggs will be nothing but a 4th line player, the same with Colburne too.

I will love to see Mike Gillis trade him during the summer. I hope its to their division, so he (Luongo) can haunt the Leafs.


I know that it might be unlikely but hopefully Lu is traded to FLA for Bjugstad. That way, when FLA beats out the Leafs for the last playoff spot in a new realigned conference, both the Canucks fans and Panthers fans can laugh at Leafs fans for being too cocky. That would be really hilarious, especially if Scrivens and Reimer don't work out. Imagine their goalies becoming the next Steve Mason.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:26 PM

Never like Dregs even before Nonis came on the scene. Always a Leaf homer.

I really can't see Gillis taking Scrivens and 2 seconds for Lu unless he really thinks he absolutely can't unload him. If that were true, the Nucks are really sunk.

I'm quite happy Lu didn't go to TO. Lu would have elevated their play and probably get them to round 2 or 3. The Leafs fired Burke to soon and now Nonis is reaping the benefits (just like in Van). I predict a repeat of the Van situation within 2 years or less. Nonis is horibad at making trades and drafting players.


Schneids, Eddie, Mike Brown, Hansen, Bourdon, Grabner were all Nonis picks. They eclipse the 2 yucky picks he had a bit later.

The Lu trade for Bert/Auld is arguably his hallmark fingerprint with the Canucks.

So no, Nonis is fine in those departments.

Aside from the conspiricy theories and conjecture from Torontocenntric sport writers/journalists. There is some truth underneath it all.

The fact is Lu is worth much more than what is reported, but the length is what lesser GMs without a team of capologists will be hesitant with.

You could infer that Lu is upset with Nonis for not making a good Hockey trade. Both GMs for a variety of reasons, imagined by the media, and real in some respects could not carve out a deal that works for both involved.

This probably be a more notable story had MG not landed Roy.

If Reimer goes sideways, sentiment will turn on Nonis. Probably unfairly, depending who will be writing about it.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:58 PM

LOL! And Nonis comes out clean as a whistle for not pulling the trigger on a reported 'deal' MG made while on his knees.
/sarcasm


Sarcasm aside, we have to ask ourselves; if Nonis acts like this , what GM is going to want to deal with him? His cousin blabs their inside conversations on TSN within 72 hours.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:05 PM

Sarcasm aside, we have to ask ourselves; if Nonis acts like this , what GM is going to want to deal with him? His cousin blabs their inside conversations on TSN within 72 hours.

That was part of the point. I believe Nonis will live to regret not taking whatever deal MG suggested, or at least engaging in a fair back and forth. I think we can all agree the leaking of information will not bode well for him in the future either.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

I don't care anymore.

I am so sick of This saga


I know, all this over a goalie.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:10 PM

Why believe any of this B$? They are all lying. There are always three sides to every story, and here its the Leafs, the Canucks and the Truth.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:17 PM

Nonis is a douche for pulling this dick move. You can be sure the other GMs have taken notice of his bull as well. It's a small community, the 30 GMs of the league, and everything you do gets noticed by everyone else.

I did not and do not believe for a second that Scrivens and 2 second-round picks was what Gillis asked for from Toronto. As noted in the article, it just doesn't add up. It makes absolutely no logical sense for a contending team to make that move, and considering the moves Gillis has made in the past, I doubt the truth of what Dreger said even more.

Dreger is usually a very reliable source, but in this case he was probably misinformed by that troll Dave Nonis.


The only logical reason gillis would ask and accept scrivens and 2 2nd rounders would be jus to trade Lou to allow him to play. It would be all about doing what's best for a player tht has given a lot to the Canucks.. But I don't by it either bro.. Lets hope gillis can get a prospect and a decent pick for Lou at the draft and put an end to this saga.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

Frankly I just don't get the bad contract handle hung on the deal.

http://www.capgeek.com/player/683

although it's long if you include the entire contract you can see that the salary for the last 4 years is $3.4, $1.6, $1.0, & $ 1.0 I don't believe Luongo will be playing the 4 years of the contract OR if he can still play they'll be a heck of a deal for some team. But more than likely Luongo will be retired.

So...he has 5 years left at $5.3 which ranks 7th in the league for goalies. Rinni as an example has a further 6 years at $7.0 Mike Smith is reported to be looking for the same.

Luongo is not as bad as the media wants you to believe
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

Nonis was talking to the media at that time. If anyone recalls

Pretty sure Dreger was talking about 2pm Eastern Time, not Pacific Time.. Deadline closed at 12pm PST, 3pm EST. So it would have been 5pm EST that Nonis was talking to the media
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

I'm quite happy Lu didn't go to TO. Lu would have elevated their play and probably get them to round 2 or 3.


Not if they meet Boston in the first round (strong possibility). Nonis would be crucified if Luongo got ventilated in the first round by the Bruins. (VERY strong possibility).
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:28 PM

Meh, I'm over it.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

Not if they meet Boston in the first round (strong possibility). Nonis would be crucified if Luongo got ventilated in the first round by the Bruins. (VERY strong possibility).

Roberto gave boston by far the hardest time than any other goalie did in the 2011 playoffs. Fact... so that makes u wrong and u just posted a false statement.

Luongo would do fine if Toronto wouldn't fold in front of him like

The twins did... hamhuis... edler... kesler...

Yes I know the team was banged up.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

wooooooooo reimer get lit up please
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:31 PM

Like most people on this board, that type of trade does not make sense at all unless there was another pending deal on the outcome of that trade. But for a mediocre goalie and two second round picks... someone is seriously smoking crack.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

That was part of the point. I believe Nonis will live to regret not taking whatever deal MG suggested, or at least engaging in a fair back and forth. I think we can all agree the leaking of information will not bode well for him in the future either.

I think Nonis was thinking he could rape Vancouver like he originally did with Florida.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:40 PM

"I think Nonis was thinking he could rape Vancouver like he originally did with Florida."
- try to grow up and talk like an intelligent human being.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

Roberto gave boston by far the hardest time than any other goalie did in the 2011 playoffs. Fact... so that makes u wrong and u just posted a false statement.



Carey Price gave his team a chance to win every game, and finished the series with a .934 save percentage. What was Luongo's save percentage against Boston again?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:00 PM

Carey Price gave his team a chance to win every game, and finished the series with a .934 save percentage. What was Luongo's save percentage against Boston again?


I watched all seven games in both series. Montreal didn't bail on their goalie like Vancouver did. Luongo was definitely better than price. If lu was on Mtl for that first series, boston wouldn't have made it past the first round.

Bottom line is canucks were too banged up and hurt to play infront of lu. They scored 8 goals in 7 ...
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

I will love to see Mike Gillis trade him during the summer. I hope its to their division, so he (Luongo) can haunt the Leafs.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:05 PM

I watched all seven games in both series. Montreal didn't bail on their goalie like Vancouver did. Luongo was definitely better than price. If lu was on Mtl for that first series, boston wouldn't have made it past the first round.

Bottom line is canucks were too banged up and hurt to play infront of lu. They scored 8 goals in 7 ...


Agreed. In fact, everyone talks about how feline the canucks were and how they were girls... Nobody talks about how it took the big bad bruins SEVEN games to beat a team that had nearly 50% of the team playing injured/unavailable, and ONLY scored 8 goals against them.

If they were so good, they should have swept the nucks.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

Never let this rest...
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 04:19 PM

Agreed. In fact, everyone talks about how feline the canucks were and how they were girls... Nobody talks about how it took the big bad bruins SEVEN games to beat a team that had nearly 50% of the team playing injured/unavailable, and ONLY scored 8 goals against them.

If they were so good, they should have swept the nucks.


The reason they didn't sweep us was because of luongo... yet most fans just blamed him cuz they don't know crap about hockey and only saw the scoreboard and there's no easier player to blame than the goalie.
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