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#91 MC Fatigue

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:18 PM

You brought it on by posting that stupidly large emoticon and the derisive comment about the most popular sport in the world. You are entitled to your opinion of soccer, but at the same time, people are entitled to their opinion of your opinion. You insult what people enjoy, you have no right to get upset when people get upset with you.

It's really that simple.


It's not that simple. The emoticon was put there comically. Then I went on to validate my opinion and the only thing I got as a retort is how popular soccer is, inferring I too should like soccer or i'm either weird or out of the loop.Try reading all the posts. Derisive comment? Where? LOL, thank you for trying though.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:24 PM

Why on earth can't people figure out that this thread isn't even really about soccer? It's a good idea. Stop ruining the thread with all of this aimless arguing over which sport is more boring.


In the end, this is probably the most prudent post after 3 pages of pro/anti soccer talk (of which I admittedly have been a part of) just like anytime you mention Luongo in a thread. Even if that thread is about potato chips, you're bound to get the "Luo Haters or "Luo lovers" come out in force.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

This is actually a pretty common phenomenon in the Swedish Elite League (and has been for years and years). I also remember that they used to do exactly this when I played peewee hockey. It really made you feel like a star scoring goals :)
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:32 PM

You miss this part or what?


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Yep

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:33 PM

... Even though there usually weren't more than nine people in the stands back then, haha!
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:38 PM

I lived outside of Munich for 12 years and played soccer for at least 28yrs.
I loathe the embellishment in the sport; a total disgrace, unfortunately it is creeping into hockey culture it seems...
anyway
this thread is about how to make the experience at Rogers better, creating an atmosphere others will take notice of
like when we join in singing the anthem
My suggestion has NOTHING to do with soccer
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:43 PM

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Yep

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:lol:


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:16 PM

In my opinion soccer & football are boring. And i've both played and watched both (played football for St. Thomas More and Soccer as an after school activity waaaaaay back) Fun to play, not so much to watch.


I've had this argument with other people lots so I'm not going to go out of my way but I've played and watched both at high level. It is fun to play, it's the same idea as hockey, you pass the object around with teammates and try to put it past the goalie. Simple. I question why I find it almost as entertaining as hockey when I watch it considering things don't happen as fast. I've concluded that if you don't have a large understanding of the game it's not going to be that exciting. You have to realize how hard everything they are doing is. Since you've played you should appreciate how difficult it is to receive a pass under pressure. It's not like you are carrying around some stick in order to hit the ball around. While running you have use your other leg as a stick. It certainly requires great skill, when you understand that it's very interesting.

Also consider, probably more than half of the interest in hockey comes from watching such a great league. I mean if the Panthers are playing the Preds in an exhibition game i think even I would find that boring. Since a lot North Americans don't know much about soccer it follows that they would find it boring. In addition, we Canadians grow up with hockey, hockey, hockey. Even if you don't religiously follow it pretty much all Canadians understand it and can stand to watch a game here or there.

I would encourage the doubters (especially those who are adults) to put themselves in a soccer game situation once again with friends who play so they can truly appreciate what its all about. A lot different when you're out there in the midst of people that can run, pass, and shoot. Once you see it up close and even try to receive or make a simple pass your eyes will be opened.

nice link, bet you thought i wouldnt click on it...

the list has as follow:
#1 - soccer
#2 - cricket
#3 - field hockey

i should have stopped reading after soccer.

speaking of soccer, what a boring sport full of whining diver europeans. if you were waiting for a clever retort, sorry to disappoint you.

SOCCER BLOWS


Your intelligence is obvious. It's a list of the most popular sports but you should have stopped reading because it wasn't a list of your favorite sports. Okay then.

Oh yeah, if you're brave enough to lace them up I guarantee you only one of us will rolling around on the ground whining.

The people who say soccer is boring should think about it more logically. What makes a sport boring or exciting? To me, it's action, not just scoring (otherwise basketball would be the most exciting sport in the world! they score 80+ points each! HOW EXCITING!).

If you understand soccer, you'll enjoy watching a great pass or a great tackle, and if you understand the game even more, you'd enjoy watching the movement of the players and how the team tries to control the field. And since it's a continuous game, if you're paying attention to all these, you'd literally be staring at the screen for the whole 90 min of the game and be happy that there is a 15min break in the middle!

I'd say the same about hockey, aside from the frequent commercial breaks (which I fast forward thanks to PVR!). If you're only interested in when the puck crosses the net, most nights you'll find hockey boring too! It's not about scoring, it's about the nice passes, the well timed hits, the power plays and penalty kills, the way the checking line shuts down the opposing team's #1 line.


I'd like to see you run for 30 mins straight and then get tackled hard... see if you can spring right back up and continue playing! Since soccer is a continuous game, the players have a hard to jumping right back into action when they were body checked or tackled to the ground.

And a lot of times when the uneducated think someone is embellishing it's simply the players trying to draw the attention of the ref to a foul that has been committed, which is perfectly fine in my view. The occasional time that a player is faking it should hopefully be fixed with technology as time goes by. And stop pretending like soccer is the only sport that has the occasional diver. We all here all the whining that the East coast guys do about our own Canucks. Usually it's just a bad reputation and idiots who follow whatever they're told like sheep.

You don't have to like the sport, but to badmouth it when you have zero idea what's going on is just immature.


These are a couple great points. I mean I could say hockey is just a bunch of dumb meatheads that keep shooting a stupid black disk around the boards and out of the rink. They're always falling down, pushing each other, tripping on their skates and running into the boards at full speed. Wow, just great.

They tell eveyone here in NA that soccer is boring and all you muppets just eat it up. At the end of the day its a non-stop sport, they play both sides of the ball, it's a contact game that requires great fitness, strength , and intelligence. It is probably the closet sport to hockey and you clowns just bad mouth it without knowing jack.

Those that criticize it because of the diving etc. just show how ignorant they are. That happens 20 times each shift in hockey but that's OK because they're wearing helments, shoulder pads, knee pads, and ball pads, and then they fall on a nice slippery surface. People don't jump up right away in soccer because any hit that makes you fall on the ground while running without padding hurts. Try running as fast as you can with hockey equipment on and then jump facefirst into a glide on the ice, now try that without the equipment in the park.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:18 PM

was watching a soccer game.... when a marathon broke out!

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

OK I know.... soccer...
Why here in the Canucks Talk you wonder
Anyway it was a Bundesliga game and after a goal the announcer called out the players 1st name and then the stadium erupted calling the players last name....
How cool would it be
The announcer calling out Ryan's name and then 18K fans chiming in with Kesler?
We've started singing the anthem, thought this would be a cool addition to the fans interaction

good idea or lame?


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if this shouldn’t be here lock block or sent it to the trash


It sounds like it could be fun.

I doubt this would work in Brazil where they have a tradition of players only going by a single name. In Germany, (announcer) "Franz" (audience) "BECKENBAUER!", while in Brazil it would be, (announcer) "Pele" (audience) "......"


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:35 PM

It sounds like it could be fun.

I doubt this would work in Brazil where they have a tradition of players only going by a single name. In Germany, (announcer) "Franz" (audience) "BECKENBAUER!", while in Brazil it would be, (announcer) "Pele" (audience) "......"


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"Pe!"

...

"LE!"
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

"Pe!"

...

"LE!"


Okay, it could work with the two syllable named guys, but I still think it would be weird with the multisyllabic names. :P

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 01:41 PM

Okay, it could work with the two syllable named guys, but I still think it would be weird with the multisyllabic names. :P

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 02:38 PM

This is done at my local hockey team in Basingstoke UK followed by some stupid arm waving. Which is done in all rings in England par a couple, One being called the library for a reason.

I do not understand how an arena that is a sell out could be quite. Chants are there for this reason.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:12 PM

Chants are there for this reason.


Yeah, like:

Rick-um rack-um, rick-um ruck-um
Take that puck and really score a lot of goals with it...


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:29 PM

Yeah, like:

Rick-um rack-um, rick-um ruck-um
Take that puck and really score a lot of goals with it...


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ok there are some chants that are utter rubbish.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:33 PM

This is a really cool idea... But if our fans can't even get one Go Canucks Go chant going every game, then how are we going to get this started? We're quiet already as is, this won't happen.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:35 PM

in Brazil they tell who did the goal on a wierd way.

for example, if Ronaldo did the goal they will say just like this...


"RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRonaldo jerney number 10! not number 8, not number 9 it´s 10! number 10!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRonaldo is his name!"
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:42 PM

in Brazil they tell who did the goal on a wierd way.

for example, if Ronaldo did the goal they will say just like this...


"RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRonaldo jerney number 10! not number 8, not number 9 it´s 10! number 10!!! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRonaldo is his name!"


Pele full name used to be called out to Edson Arentes Do Nascimento Pelé in the same way.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:45 PM

Pele full name used to be called out to Edson Arentes Do Nascimento Pelé in the same way.


football players in Brazil use only their 1st names or their nicknames because it´s easier for fans to remember :) why would you call "Edson Arantes do Nascimento" when everybody knows him as "Pelé".and just for fun: "Pelllllllllllllllllééeéééé´!"
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

football players in Brazil use only their 1st names or their nicknames because it´s easier for fans to remember :) why would you call "Edson Arantes do Nascimento" when everybody knows him as "Pelé".and just for fun: "Pelllllllllllllllllééeéééé´!"


At the beginning when he first started playing for Santos he demanded his full name was said. then it just became Pele followed by king Pele.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 04:07 PM

I'd like to see you run for 30 mins straight and then get tackled hard... see if you can spring right back up and continue playing! Since soccer is a continuous game, the players have a hard to jumping right back into action when they were body checked or tackled to the ground.

And a lot of times when the uneducated think someone is embellishing it's simply the players trying to draw the attention of the ref to a foul that has been committed, which is perfectly fine in my view. The occasional time that a player is faking it should hopefully be fixed with technology as time goes by. And stop pretending like soccer is the only sport that has the occasional diver. We all here all the whining that the East coast guys do about our own Canucks. Usually it's just a bad reputation and idiots who follow whatever they're told like sheep.

You don't have to like the sport, but to badmouth it when you have zero idea what's going on is just immature.

Why on earth can't people figure out that this thread isn't even really about soccer? It's a good idea. Stop ruining the thread with all of this aimless arguing over which sport is more boring.


@scottishcanuck My comments were directed at other comments in this thread...if you don't get that, that's your prerogative...

@westvandude to call me uneducated because my opinion differs from yours is hugely ignorant...it's my educated opinion, after giving it a chance earlier in life, and understanding the rules, that soccer is boring......In my view, that ignorance takes away the credibility from your comments. As I stated in my other comment, what's with the soviet agenda here... "think what I think or KGB for you" pfft... Get a clue buddy.. Plus I do run for 30mins straight...when I go running...thanks for coming out

Edited by VanIsleNuckFan, 11 April 2013 - 04:18 PM.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

Oh yeah, if you're brave enough to lace them up I guarantee you only one of us will rolling around on the ground whining.


the only thing i'd be doing rolling on the ground is laughing... if my intelligence is so obvious how come your the one stooping to making vague threats ONLINE. LOL. seriously what kind of reply were you expecting? "OH YEAH BRO? meet me between the samesun hostel and the theatre on granville at high noon!!!!!" lol. go watch some soccer and drink a few coolers tough guy.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 04:29 PM

I've had this argument with other people lots so I'm not going to go out of my way but I've played and watched both at high level. It is fun to play, it's the same idea as hockey, you pass the object around with teammates and try to put it past the goalie. Simple. I question why I find it almost as entertaining as hockey when I watch it considering things don't happen as fast. I've concluded that if you don't have a large understanding of the game it's not going to be that exciting. You have to realize how hard everything they are doing is. Since you've played you should appreciate how difficult it is to receive a pass under pressure. It's not like you are carrying around some stick in order to hit the ball around. While running you have use your other leg as a stick. It certainly requires great skill, when you understand that it's very interesting.

Also consider, probably more than half of the interest in hockey comes from watching such a great league. I mean if the Panthers are playing the Preds in an exhibition game i think even I would find that boring. Since a lot North Americans don't know much about soccer it follows that they would find it boring. In addition, we Canadians grow up with hockey, hockey, hockey. Even if you don't religiously follow it pretty much all Canadians understand it and can stand to watch a game here or there.

I would encourage the doubters (especially those who are adults) to put themselves in a soccer game situation once again with friends who play so they can truly appreciate what its all about. A lot different when you're out there in the midst of people that can run, pass, and shoot. Once you see it up close and even try to receive or make a simple pass your eyes will be opened.



Your intelligence is obvious. It's a list of the most popular sports but you should have stopped reading because it wasn't a list of your favorite sports. Okay then.

Oh yeah, if you're brave enough to lace them up I guarantee you only one of us will rolling around on the ground whining.



These are a couple great points. I mean I could say hockey is just a bunch of dumb meatheads that keep shooting a stupid black disk around the boards and out of the rink. They're always falling down, pushing each other, tripping on their skates and running into the boards at full speed. Wow, just great.

They tell eveyone here in NA that soccer is boring and all you muppets just eat it up. At the end of the day its a non-stop sport, they play both sides of the ball, it's a contact game that requires great fitness, strength , and intelligence. It is probably the closet sport to hockey and you clowns just bad mouth it without knowing jack.

Those that criticize it because of the diving etc. just show how ignorant they are. That happens 20 times each shift in hockey but that's OK because they're wearing helments, shoulder pads, knee pads, and ball pads, and then they fall on a nice slippery surface. People don't jump up right away in soccer because any hit that makes you fall on the ground while running without padding hurts. Try running as fast as you can with hockey equipment on and then jump facefirst into a glide on the ice, now try that without the equipment in the park.


Show me a clip where a guy gets nailed.....or some dude gets screwed by a player, but there's a good fight after, and everything is settled...no?? I'm sorry bud, but there's some people who understand that, yes, soccer is very much like hockey, in terms of formation and somewhat in strategy, etc etc... but still think its boring as crap.. Are you trying to convince us otherwise?? I sure as hell don't give a rats ass if you get a soccer tattoo across your chest, go ahead, cheer for soccer, all power to you, but in terms of other sports, I'd much rather watch an AFL football game than a soccer game, because of that physical aspect. That particular aspect is missing from soccer..

And I do apologize for hijacking the thread here...my beef is only with people who can't understand that opinions may vary and try to teach us otherwise in a condescending way.. I think anything to do with helping to pump up the crowd, even hand holding is a good idea, and has some merit, ie: this idea - in the calgary game last night, the announcer exclaimed, "get up and cheer if you want to win". Anything to help get the suits in the lower bowl to get up and cheer for once, and get to know the players better too..

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:12 PM

For sure! Only reason I'm not following that is because of coverage. It would have probably been my 2nd if I was living in Europe or Australia. And I would have been whining about boring cricket games ;))


You talk about people bashing soccer for being boring, but defend it based on its tactics and "beauty". As far as tactics go, no sport NONE can match a cricket test match. And the beauty of the shots played and wickets taken match soccer any day...

Soccer has tactics, but not more so than any other "contact" team sport.. the " " is because I would say soccer MARGINALLY is a contact sport. Most serious contact is accidental.

The game itself is like hockey, but slower, on a bigger field. While any sport is fun to play, as a spectator sport, soccer is ok at best.

Just because its the #1 watched sport in the world is soccer, does not make it the best, or most exciting. The reason soccer is #1 is because of the worlds demographics. Most soccer players / fans come from 3rd world (whole of africa, and south america) countries where playing a sport like American football , Ice hockey, etc is too expensive, with no facilities / leagues etc to be able to play them. This is also why cricket is one of the worlds most watched sports. You dont need a league or specialised equipment to play.. .a ball, and 2 trash cans (and a stickt for cricket) and kids from the block will be playing it.

When you become an adult, and have the funds to pay to watch a sport, do you choose ice hockey, which you never had the ability to play because of cost or lack of facilities, or the sport you and your friends were able to play in the back alley until your parents came to get you?

The old story of soccer is the best because of sheer numbers is total BS. I grew up playing cricket. I love it to death, and there is nothing like watching 5 days , 8 hours a day for one game... but I am not a homer or an idiot, and know that unless you grew up playing it, it is a tough game to get into and appreciate.

Hockey is the ONLY north american sport that interests me. Baseball is an even more boring version of cricket, with the difficult parts removed...

American football / cfl is rugby for pansies

basketball... gawd... what a snooze fest... when the exciting part of the game (scoring) IS THE GAME, it looses all its excitement, and if they were 6 foot or less I could see the skill.. but being 6'6" or more takes all the skill out of it.

I would rather watch soccer than any of those sports, but it is still nowhere near the most exciting, nor best sport in the world.

For team contact sports, Rugby, then Ice Hockey... dont really care after that.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:20 PM

^^^^^^Awesome post! I liked my example of soccer in the third world better, ie: a severed head and two coke cans, but nevertheless, great points. I'm not sure why there are so many opinion Nazis, but they are probably just young-uns anywho...lol

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:22 PM

^^^^^^Awesome post! I liked my example of soccer in the third world better, ie: a severed head and two coke cans, but nevertheless, great points. I'm not sure why there are so many opinion Nazis, but they are probably just young-uns anywho...lol


Didn't read your post sorry... Didn't make it past first page without the anger consuming me lol
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:24 PM

Didn't read your post sorry... Didn't make it past first page without the anger consuming me lol


Haha, that got to me quickly too... I only comment when I feel that my opinion has a point...ahem..most of the time.. =) sometimes theres a good ol, go Canucks go or, I agree or whatnot...

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:24 PM

Roy?...


BABY!!!


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm say it again !!!!

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:31 PM

You talk about people bashing soccer for being boring, but defend it based on its tactics and "beauty". As far as tactics go, no sport NONE can match a cricket test match. And the beauty of the shots played and wickets taken match soccer any day...

Soccer has tactics, but not more so than any other "contact" team sport.. the " " is because I would say soccer MARGINALLY is a contact sport. Most serious contact is accidental.

The game itself is like hockey, but slower, on a bigger field. While any sport is fun to play, as a spectator sport, soccer is ok at best.

Just because its the #1 watched sport in the world is soccer, does not make it the best, or most exciting. The reason soccer is #1 is because of the worlds demographics. Most soccer players / fans come from 3rd world (whole of africa, and south america) countries where playing a sport like American football , Ice hockey, etc is too expensive, with no facilities / leagues etc to be able to play them. This is also why cricket is one of the worlds most watched sports. You dont need a league or specialised equipment to play.. .a ball, and 2 trash cans (and a stickt for cricket) and kids from the block will be playing it.

When you become an adult, and have the funds to pay to watch a sport, do you choose ice hockey, which you never had the ability to play because of cost or lack of facilities, or the sport you and your friends were able to play in the back alley until your parents came to get you?

The old story of soccer is the best because of sheer numbers is total BS. I grew up playing cricket. I love it to death, and there is nothing like watching 5 days , 8 hours a day for one game... but I am not a homer or an idiot, and know that unless you grew up playing it, it is a tough game to get into and appreciate.

Hockey is the ONLY north american sport that interests me. Baseball is an even more boring version of cricket, with the difficult parts removed...

American football / cfl is rugby for pansies

basketball... gawd... what a snooze fest... when the exciting part of the game (scoring) IS THE GAME, it looses all its excitement, and if they were 6 foot or less I could see the skill.. but being 6'6" or more takes all the skill out of it.

I would rather watch soccer than any of those sports, but it is still nowhere near the most exciting, nor best sport in the world.

For team contact sports, Rugby, then Ice Hockey... dont really care after that.


I'll let Kobe know he doesn't have any "skill" :lol: :lol: :lol: ..... I have to say I am impressed by your post though because I never read posts that long, but it was just weird comment after comment and I was cracking up :lol: :lol: Well played
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