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That's quite the statement. You should elaborate.

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All human beings are hypocrites.

Without religion, we'd still be small bands of non technological people roaming the earth...we never would have evolved to the state we are now...

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The human race would be much more advanced if it weren't for the interference of religion.

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All human beings are hypocrites.

Without religion, we'd still be small bands of non technological people roaming the earth...we never would have evolved to the state we are now...

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So religion invented the transistor and the microprocessor? Good to know.

The human race would be much more advanced if it weren't for the interference of religion.

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I'm not 100% sure about this. If it weren't religion, they'd just make something else up that would cause similar problems. Stuff like political parties, but more extreme. The human mind is obsessed with organizing things into groups.

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Brahma, organization is a good thing. Makes things much more efficient.

Control and oppression are not good things. That's the difference.

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There is good and bad to organization. I'm just saying that even without religion, different groups would be created that would end up leading to the same types of problems such as control and oppression.

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Yes, because I'm so disturbed that I genuinely want him burned alive...

Nice to see you standing up for him again.

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Maybe. But we have yet to see atheists in the name of atheism, an extremist approach, organize large cults in an effort to stone gays among others and claim it as the will of the FSM. We're better off without religion and god or gods -- it's nothing more than primitive belief systems to explain reality which is obviously not applicable to the 21st century given how much we now know which evidently contradicts and disproves those primitive beliefs.

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Very wrong. We are where we are in the world because religion lost it's grip on societies. If religious leaders had their way back in the day, I bet we'd still be riding horses.

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I'd rather believe Dr. Haidt then a biased opinion from someone who hates religion.

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Then I suggest you don't put all your faith in one person, even if he's a doctor.

From the article you referred to...

Other psychologists have mixed views about Dr. Haidt’s ideas.

Frans B. M. de Waal, a primatologist at Emory University, said he disagreed with Dr. Haidt’s view that the task of morality is to suppress selfishness. Many animals show empathy and altruistic tendencies but do not have moral systems.

Read up on the history of religion. You'll fine mass murder and oppression all in the name of religion. Don't be naive.

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It says he disagrees with 1 part of one of his views.

Read up on the history of mankind. You'll find more mass murder and oppression that wasn't done in the name of religion. Take off your blinders and fingers out of your ears.

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Wtf are you talking about? When did I say mass murder and oppression was exclusive to religion?

You can deny religion's ugly record in the history of mankind and put all your faith in the findings of one study from one psychologist if you want. I don't have blinders on my friend, but I think you do. And I think you are in denial.

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lol...oh this wasn't meant as irony.

I agree with you thatreligion is in general bad especially looking at it's history. Like anything else there are good aspects to it especially individually but like anything else it fails on a more broad spectrum level. Just like any other organization. Look at broad spectrum news. It has people like you convinced that the middle east is some dangerous place filled with people who pull people out into the streets to murder them and will kill you if you burn a Koran.

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