Nino Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Get off of Luongo's rod, please. The only thing he has proven in the playoffs is that he's inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Schneider could run the table and I still wouldn't be convinced. Playing 30-something games in an abbreviated schedule is not the same as 60-70 over many months of hockey. Completely different ball-game. However he has proved he can play well and consistently over long stretches. That being said, the playoffs is whole new beast. Even Cup winning goalies like Quick and Thomas had a few playoff failures, despite putting together solid regular seasons, before they could orchestrate a historic cup run. The only goalie in the last decade really who came out of nowhere, with no past playoff experience, and won a Cup was Niemi but he had a rediculously stacked team and defence in front of him to bail him out. I now trust Schneider during the regular season, but don't trust him in the playoffs as much as I would Luongo. We've seen what Lu can do and how he comes up big in big games. Meanwhile Schneider has 1 playoff victory and no big-stage wins. Sure, everyone will be harboring about "giving him a chance", but we don't have 2 or 3 years for him to get that chance - we need a proven playoff performer in net NOW. And that's Luongo, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnhl Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Luongo has won 15 games in a Cup run. Schneider has won 1. I'm not saying Schneider isn't better than Luongo, but his track record has yet to be proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noheart Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Schneider could run the table and I still wouldn't be convinced. Playing 30-something games in an abbreviated schedule is not the same as 60-70 over many months of hockey. Completely different ball-game. However he has proved he can play well and consistently over long stretches. That being said, the playoffs is whole new beast. Even Cup winning goalies like Quick and Thomas had a few playoff failures, despite putting together solid regular seasons, before they could orchestrate a historic cup run. The only goalie in the last decade really who came out of nowhere, with no past playoff experience, and won a Cup was Niemi but he had a rediculously stacked team and defence in front of him to bail him out. I now trust Schneider during the regular season, but don't trust him in the playoffs as much as I would Luongo. We've seen what Lu can do and how he comes up big in big games. Meanwhile Schneider has 1 playoff victory and no big-stage wins. Sure, everyone will be harboring about "giving him a chance", but we don't have 2 or 3 years for him to get that chance - we need a proven playoff performer in net NOW. And that's Luongo, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Most likely they were talking about a FULL season, as it stands he has played great this season but look at the amount of games played the past 3 season for each player Schneider 2010-11 - 25gp 2011-12- 33gp 2012-13-25gp Luongo 2010-11 60gp 2011-12 55 gp 2012-13 17gp Schneider has played 8 games less this season than he did last, although in a shortened season. If he was the undisputed 1st he would have started a higher percentage of games. Luongo's 2010/11 and 2011/12 gp is what a starter can expect to play(in a full season) and he has yet to play 55 or 60 games(Below Luongo's seaon average) in a season, so no he has not proven he can stand up to the rigorous demands of the starter position yet and keep up a good standard of play, that is what next season is going to prove. Playoffs is another story, Since Luongo is critiqued as a playoff choker, this year schneider is most likely the starter and he will have to get us into the 2nd round or better, with as little goal support as canuck goalies are used to in the playoffs, most likely due to the bipolar nature of canuck fans if we do not get out of the 1st round schneider will either get excuses made for him or Roasted by Luongo lovers and the media will have a heyday with speculation if it was better to go with Luongo or not and it will be fodder for trade schneider speculations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 True, although Luo is a great goalie, still has a lot to prove. I believe next year he's gonna have a great season and many Luo haters will hate him leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf47 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Just remember that most people on this site have 0 yrs in goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugli Fruit Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Get off of Luongo's rod, please. The only thing he has proven in the playoffs is that he's inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Schneider could run the table and I still wouldn't be convinced. Playing 30-something games in an abbreviated schedule is not the same as 60-70 over many months of hockey. Completely different ball-game. However he has proved he can play well and consistently over long stretches. That being said, the playoffs is whole new beast. Even Cup winning goalies like Quick and Thomas had a few playoff failures, despite putting together solid regular seasons, before they could orchestrate a historic cup run. The only goalie in the last decade really who came out of nowhere, with no past playoff experience, and won a Cup was Niemi but he had a rediculously stacked team and defence in front of him to bail him out. I now trust Schneider during the regular season, but don't trust him in the playoffs as much as I would Luongo. We've seen what Lu can do and how he comes up big in big games. Meanwhile Schneider has 1 playoff victory and no big-stage wins. Sure, everyone will be harboring about "giving him a chance", but we don't have 2 or 3 years for him to get that chance - we need a proven playoff performer in net NOW. And that's Luongo, like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 This playoff run is really gonna seal it, if he can get us through the second round, that would be real impressive with the conference so competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsCanuck Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 My personal bias' towards Luongo will always lend me to favour him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Schneider still has not played a full season as an NHL starter so I would say he is still unproven. His numbers look great but he hasn't started more than 28 games in a season. We still don't know how he would handle the toll of 60+ regular season games and then a playoff run. That's why it would be a huge mistake to trade Luongo before knowing if Schneider can stand up to the full grind of being a starting goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Schneider still has not played a full season as an NHL starter so I would say he is still unproven. His numbers look great but he hasn't started more than 28 games in a season. We still don't know how he would handle the toll of 60+ regular season games and then a playoff run. That's why it would be a huge mistake to trade Luongo before knowing if Schneider can stand up to the full grind of being a starting goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 you can tell this guy owns a luongo jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 [public service announcement] Please stop pretending to know anything, it is getting on everyone's nerves. You know who this applies to... [public service announcement] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I probably should get one because if he gets traded, it'll be another 5 years before another goaltender takes Vancouver to the Stanley Cup Final (and his name won't be Schneider). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggs Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 how do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I don't know for sure. Just going by this team's history, there's usually a while between Stanley Cup Final appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 give it a break.. regardless of who's in net we ain't going to the SCF lol.. this team have no consistency.. and u can't just flip a switch on in the playoff... we don't have the skill.. we have a slowly declining Sedins.. a who knows how healthy Kesler.. and the most overrated defense in the league.. that does not add up to a team turning it on and making a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockNroLLa. Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I sense goalie controversy V2.5 coming next month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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