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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

wow the only team that would pay that would be DESPERATE for centres...


so i guess the Flames will overpay him :bigblush:


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:21 PM

Dreger is becoming far too obvious as a media plant to further the Leafs agenda than he even was before - and I never thought that was possible.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 09:14 PM

Well this is what happens when you have a bunch of other overpaid players on your roster - guy wants to get paid.
Kessel 5.4.
Phaneuf 6.5
In that context, Bozak's bargaining power is inflated - he's not as good as Grabovski (who is making 5.5), but the Leafs salary structure leans towards overpayments.
The thing is - Kadri is an RFA - the Leafs will have to pony up for two of their top 3 centers - and Bozak is in a position to walk.
Jay Feaster has cap space - Bozak may just get his 5 million after all lol.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:01 AM

The GM who gives him that should be fired.



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:19 AM

He's worth 4 million max.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:23 AM

Dreger is becoming far too obvious as a media plant to further the Leafs agenda than he even was before - and I never thought that was possible.

They don't call TSN the Toronto Sports Network for nothing.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 12:54 PM

nonsense!

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:06 PM

Well this is what happens when you have a bunch of other overpaid players on your roster - guy wants to get paid.
Kessel 5.4.
Phaneuf 6.5
In that context, Bozak's bargaining power is inflated - he's not as good as Grabovski (who is making 5.5), but the Leafs salary structure leans towards overpayments.
The thing is - Kadri is an RFA - the Leafs will have to pony up for two of their top 3 centers - and Bozak is in a position to walk.
Jay Feaster has cap space - Bozak may just get his 5 million after all lol.


Kessel's contract is not a problem - he is a PPG player the last two seasons and has scored 30+ goals each season he has been on a sh!tty Toronto team with no elite playmaking center (hint hint - Bozak, you suck).

Phaneuf, as much as people rag on him, is not that bad. He's the captain and the #1 defenseman on the team. Is he worth $6.5 million? Probably not. But he's not that bad.

The real problem is Grabovski's deal at $5.5 million per year. Why? Because Grabovski is a center, just like Bozak. Except, Bozak has 10 more points than Grabovski this season. And last season, Bozak only had 8 points less than Grabovski.

That's a huge problem because when you look down the bench, and you see your #2 center making $5.5 million to put up 10 points less than you do, you are going to demand more money or at least similar to that inflated deal.

And what makes this even more complicated is that neither Bozak nor Grabovski are the #1 center on the team. It's Kadri, who's coming off his ELC. Luckily, he will be an RFA and will have to sign for much less than what he deserves.

The Leafs have to trade Grabovski or let Bozak walk. Basically, it comes down to this - who is better at the #2 center position behind Kadri? Grabovski or Bozak?

I think they should try to trade Grabovski for some picks and re-sign Bozak to that $5.0 million deal. Kadri will get something close to $6.0 million later on (not this year - but the contract after the one he'll sign this summer). That's not necessarily a bad top 6.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:36 PM

Kessel's contract is not a problem - he is a PPG player the last two seasons and has scored 30+ goals each season he has been on a sh!tty Toronto team with no elite playmaking center (hint hint - Bozak, you suck).

Phaneuf, as much as people rag on him, is not that bad. He's the captain and the #1 defenseman on the team. Is he worth $6.5 million? Probably not. But he's not that bad.

The real problem is Grabovski's deal at $5.5 million per year. Why? Because Grabovski is a center, just like Bozak. Except, Bozak has 10 more points than Grabovski this season. And last season, Bozak only had 8 points less than Grabovski.

That's a huge problem because when you look down the bench, and you see your #2 center making $5.5 million to put up 10 points less than you do, you are going to demand more money or at least similar to that inflated deal.

And what makes this even more complicated is that neither Bozak nor Grabovski are the #1 center on the team. It's Kadri, who's coming off his ELC. Luckily, he will be an RFA and will have to sign for much less than what he deserves.

The Leafs have to trade Grabovski or let Bozak walk. Basically, it comes down to this - who is better at the #2 center position behind Kadri? Grabovski or Bozak?

I think they should try to trade Grabovski for some picks and re-sign Bozak to that $5.0 million deal. Kadri will get something close to $6.0 million later on (not this year - but the contract after the one he'll sign this summer). That's not necessarily a bad top 6.


Kadri plays 17 minutes a night.

Hardly a top line center, no?

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:42 PM

Kadri plays 17 minutes a night.

Hardly a top line center, no?



And puts up only one less point than Henrik Sedin - 41. That's top line center numbers.

He is not defensively apt enough to play the extra minutes that Henrik and other #1 centers around the league does, but he's a rookie. Next year, he will have to take on a bigger role on the team, as either Grabovski or Bozak will be gone. He may hit a wall known as the sophomore slump with the added responsibility. But this kid is a player, no doubt. He will be the #1 center for the Maple Leafs in the next coming years.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:09 PM

Kessel's contract is not a problem - he is a PPG player the last two seasons and has scored 30+ goals each season he has been on a sh!tty Toronto team with no elite playmaking center (hint hint - Bozak, you suck).

Phaneuf, as much as people rag on him, is not that bad. He's the captain and the #1 defenseman on the team. Is he worth $6.5 million? Probably not. But he's not that bad.

The real problem is Grabovski's deal at $5.5 million per year. Why? Because Grabovski is a center, just like Bozak. Except, Bozak has 10 more points than Grabovski this season. And last season, Bozak only had 8 points less than Grabovski.

That's a huge problem because when you look down the bench, and you see your #2 center making $5.5 million to put up 10 points less than you do, you are going to demand more money or at least similar to that inflated deal.

And what makes this even more complicated is that neither Bozak nor Grabovski are the #1 center on the team. It's Kadri, who's coming off his ELC. Luckily, he will be an RFA and will have to sign for much less than what he deserves.

The Leafs have to trade Grabovski or let Bozak walk. Basically, it comes down to this - who is better at the #2 center position behind Kadri? Grabovski or Bozak?

I think they should try to trade Grabovski for some picks and re-sign Bozak to that $5.0 million deal. Kadri will get something close to $6.0 million later on (not this year - but the contract after the one he'll sign this summer). That's not necessarily a bad top 6.


They're all overpaid - but Grabovski the least so of those guys. Kessel scores... butis otherwise one of the premier floaters in the NHL and is spoon fed situational minutes.
What you're not looking at is the actual role that Grabovski is playing this season - the fact he has less points than the Leafs other Cs may have something to do with the 38% offensive zone starts that he's getting - he's essentially playing a 3C role (the most capable guy of doing so), but has been the Leafs best two way player the past few years.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:05 PM

bozak is a bozo

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 01:32 AM

Waaay too much.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:19 AM

Thank god we didn't get him.


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Posted 22 April 2013 - 02:23 AM

Thank god we didn't get him.

If we got Bozak and Kadri for Luongo, we'd keep Kadri (if he would've still had the season he's had with the Leafs) and Gillis would show Bozak the door

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:41 AM

LOL!

Kes > Bozak

Most i'd pay is 3.25m / year.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:50 AM

Kadri, Bozak, Grabovski, McClement.

Thats some good center depth right there. Espescially with Joe Colborne looking like he'll make the club at 3/4C, someone's gotta go. Nevermind the fact that JVR can play 1/2C as well as Komorov playing 3/4C. The leafs made their bed with Grabo @ $5.5m, whether he's worth that isn't really the issue, this season has been an anomaly and he should be back next season good to go at his usual 55pt pace.

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Lupul/Grabovski/Frattin
Kuleimin/Colborne/Komorov +MacArthur if re-signed
Hamilton/McClement/Orr (or Komorov/Colborne if MacArthur re-signs)

Pretty solid forwards without bozak in the lineup.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:56 AM

I just read the title of this thread and all I have to say is LOL
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:18 AM

Grabovski is already hugely overpaid, wouldn't be surprised to see him bought out .

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:22 AM

I just read the title of this thread and all I have to say is LOL

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 03:40 AM

Historically, seems like something Toronto would do...
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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:08 AM

Watch out, Sather will give him $7m

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 09:33 AM

He's on pace for 50 points (in an 82 game season) so 5M is what he's worth. Us Canuck fans are too used to discounts to know what real market value is.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:54 AM

He's on pace for 50 points (in an 82 game season) so 5M is what he's worth. Us Canuck fans are too used to discounts to know what real market value is.


Nothing to do with discount or anything, but he is not worth 5 million. You do have a solid point, but he's no 5 million dollar player.

 

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:57 AM

Toronto might actually offer him it, if they don't it may impact Kessel, best buddy, roommate, line mate, have LOTS of chemistry together. Don't know if Kadri could take on the role of 1st line C yet. But man did he look awesome with Phil and Lupul yesterday!

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 12:50 PM

He's on pace for 50 points (in an 82 game season) so 5M is what he's worth. Us Canuck fans are too used to discounts to know what real market value is.


50 point players arent worth $5m. Not unless they bring lots of other intangibles (size, checking, elite defensive capabilities) - which Bozak doesn't. He's good on faceoffs, but he's not exactly #1 PK or physically dominant.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:44 PM

lulz, here's hoping Toronto gives it to him

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:02 PM

50 point players arent worth $5m. Not unless they bring lots of other intangibles (size, checking, elite defensive capabilities) - which Bozak doesn't. He's good on faceoffs, but he's not exactly #1 PK or physically dominant.


I agree to some extent. Bozak is much much better at defence than Grabovski (who makes 5.5).

Rumor has it (hearsay on the street and local media outlets in/around Toronto) that they will buy out Grabovski and give the money to Bozak. It does make sense as well so I could see that happening.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:41 PM

50 point players arent worth $5m. Not unless they bring lots of other intangibles (size, checking, elite defensive capabilities) - which Bozak doesn't. He's good on faceoffs, but he's not exactly #1 PK or physically dominant.


Well he's pretty close to 5M. I'd say he's on par with Brooks Laich who makes 4.5M. And being taller or more physical than another player does not warrant a higher salary. What Bozak lacks in size, he makes up for it in his skill and skating.

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