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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:42 PM

nope.

The answer does not scan.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:47 PM

The answer does not scan.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 02:50 PM

There is more than just the one photo as reported:

Ms. Pawluck is a well-know activist and protester who has been arrested three times during the Quebec tuition demonstrations and has been an outspoken critic of police.


While the picture of the graffiti portraying Cdr. Lafrenière received most of the attention Thursday, Ms. Pawluck, an activist who was involved in many of Quebec’s protests over the past year, also posted photos of other messages. She distributed a photo of a bullet several weeks ago with the caption “we’re going to kill,” along with a photo of another piece of graffiti that said “one cop, one bullet.”




A photo posted on the eve of her arrest showed graffiti with the message “Death to cops.” Ms. Pawluck posted the photos on Instagram under her handle, anarcommie.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 03:21 PM

The cops have lawyers to fight battles for them.

The activists do not.

Ergo the dilemma.

Anyone with access or the monetary power to employ lawyers to fight their battles has an overwhelming advantage over those that don't. A powerful upper class with it's soldiers to have more power than anyone and everyone else.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 06:27 PM

The cops have lawyers to fight battles for them.

The activists do not.

Ergo the dilemma.

Anyone with access or the monetary power to employ lawyers to fight their battles has an overwhelming advantage over those that don't. A powerful upper class with it's soldiers to have more power than anyone and everyone else.

Actually there are number of lawyers who handle such matters under public advocacy or legal aid.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

The cops have lawyers to fight battles for them.

The activists do not.

Ergo the dilemma.

Anyone with access or the monetary power to employ lawyers to fight their battles has an overwhelming advantage over those that don't. A powerful upper class with it's soldiers to have more power than anyone and everyone else.



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Posted 17 April 2013 - 07:13 PM

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

Actually there are number of lawyers who handle such matters under public advocacy or legal aid.

Agree, but they tend to be fresh out of law school, bottom of the ladder types. Let's face it, the best and the brightest law grads are brib, I mean recruited by high priced firms, who then represent the wealthy only, be they corrupt, guilty or not. Funny how you failed to mention that.
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Posted 17 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

Agree, but they tend to be fresh out of law school, bottom of the ladder types. Let's face it, the best and the brightest law grads are brib, I mean recruited by high priced firms, who then represent the wealthy only, be they corrupt, guilty or not. Funny how you failed to mention that.

Because that is not the case. There are a number senior counsel who are top litigators and many lawyers take case pro bono on a case by case as well as take legal aid cases.

In Vancouver lawyers such as Cameron Ward, David Eby, Joe Arvay and John Richardson, in Toronto Barbara Jackman and Lorne Waldman, In Montreal Julius Grey, the Canadian and provincial civil liberties organizations, and most law school have a legal assistance program under the supervision of a senior lawyer or lawyers.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:17 AM

Posting pictures online should not be considered "publishing" unless you are say, a media organization or accredited individual. Whoever's responsible for the law developing to that point screwed up bad, if you ask me. If you put up a photo on your fridge and someone saw it, could you be hit with a lawsuit if someone didn't like it? (On second thought, don't answer that). There's too much liability going around these days.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:21 AM

Actually there are number of lawyers who handle such matters under public advocacy or legal aid.


Where it happens to fit in their political interest, sure.

The overwhelming majority of us do not have access to free lawyers to protect us from sue happy belligerents.

And even in the event that they do all having your own free lawyer does turn the one sided war into a war of attrition.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:22 AM

Posting pictures online should not be considered "publishing" unless you are say, a media organization or accredited individual. Whoever's responsible for the law developing to that point screwed up bad, if you ask me. If you put up a photo on your fridge and someone saw it, could you be hit with a lawsuit if someone didn't like it? (On second thought, don't answer that). There's too much liability going around these days.


Lawyers need to bill for something.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:46 PM

Posting pictures online should not be considered "publishing" unless you are say, a media organization or accredited individual. Whoever's responsible for the law developing to that point screwed up bad, if you ask me. If you put up a photo on your fridge and someone saw it, could you be hit with a lawsuit if someone didn't like it? (On second thought, don't answer that). There's too much liability going around these days.

"Publishing" in this case has a specific legal connotation.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 01:50 PM

Lawyers need to bill for something.

Not always (that is what "pro bono" means) and there is also legal aid.

Some lawyers are employed by public interest advocacy groups such as the Pivot Legal Society, Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund etc and the various federal and provincial civil liberty associations.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 02:07 PM

Not always (that is what "pro bono" means) and there is also legal aid.

Some lawyers are employed by public interest advocacy groups such as the Pivot Legal Society, Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund etc and the various federal and provincial civil liberty associations.


Of course not always. But there's more than enough of people that have access to lawyers having power over people that don't getting shafted because the law is complex and hiring help to decipher it is ridiculously expensive...

As an example, while not something that affected me, if you happen to say have a dispute with someone in a strata and they have a lawyer, well, you're kind of screwed unless you know exactly what to do.

As soon as you have that power imbalance you can more or less bully your way or the other person risks legal and or financial hardship or both.

The kind of bullying going on by the cops in this post over a legal technicality few outside of the legal profession would know about happens all the time in less celebrated, one sided disputes all the time.

That a few donate some charity time to defend for free cases that happen to suit their political goals can hardly be status quo?

Heck, how many stories have you put right here on CDC where you got your way on something that perhaps wouldn't have been the same if everyone had a personal lawyer at their side advising them of every action? As you know yourself the general reaction is to get as far away from the situation at fast as possible so as to avoid a legal catastrophe.

Bullying at it's finest, sucking away wealth from the country.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:35 PM

"Publishing" in this case has a specific legal connotation.


Yes I know, I am saying that the legal definition of publishing is overbroad, as are many other avenues of liability, for instance if you raise your voice to someone or shake your fist you are liable for assault. Given how expensive and complicated the legal system is and the way every single aspect of our lives is covered by reams of statute, regulation and case law, this stuff needs to be scaled back, it is out of control.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

Yes I know, I am saying that the legal definition of publishing is overbroad, as are many other avenues of liability, for instance if you raise your voice to someone or shake your fist you are liable for assault. Given how expensive and complicated the legal system is and the way every single aspect of our lives is covered by reams of statute, regulation and case law, this stuff needs to be scaled back, it is out of control.

You threaten people and there are consequences. I see no problem with that.
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