EmployeeoftheMonth Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Playing for the wolves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 People aren't mad that Hodgson got traded for Kassian. People are mad because the Canucks ONLY got Kassian. Gillis traded Hodgson at a severe discount and the Sabres traded Kassian with a high premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 and it's post like these that let everybody know that Nino should not be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lui's Knob Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Kassian a next year is do or die for him. Plays badly again going another 20 games without a goal and he'll be deemed the biggest bust since sandlak, bernier and oreskovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 As of right now, he is awful but he's got potential. Only problem is potential isn't gonna help us right now while our window is still barely open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 The problem with zack is he is a - player that's responsible for his - more then any player on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I would disagree. I have seen a lot of mistakes by Hodgson (from this season) which have directly led to very good scoring chances, if not a goal. Look at the videos on the Sabres site. You'll see a lot of very un-even defensive play by Hodgson. Right now Hodgson is supposed to be the better offensive player, and he will very likely score more points than Kassian over his career. If anyone believes that people who support the trade for Kassian are un-aware of this, then they are not thinking things through. The Canucks traded away an asset that was less valuable to them now, for an asset which will be more valuable to them in the near future. (ASSUME ALL THE USUAL DANCES OF PRO/CON ARGUMENTS IN THIS SPACE). The thing of it is, Hodgson should also be "better" at his defensive game than Kassian. He is older. He was drafted higher. He came from a very strong defense system. Kassian is a player type which is supposed to develop slower (the power forwards take more time concept). All of these things are in Hodgson's favour, and yet he sucks in the defensive game compared to Kassian. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I havnt watched Cody I'm just talking about zacks play, I'm not comparing there play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 There is definitely something to be desired with this kid.. Certainly doesn't look like he's improved since short stint in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks#01fan Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Note: bertuzzi was 25 when he cracked 40 points for the first time People develop at their own pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Im growing more and more frustrated with him. Whether or not he is scoring at the very least i expected him to be physical out there but too many games he's been a no show. The biggest disappointment for me was the St. Louis game. Playoff type game and Kassian was nowhere to be seen. If that's how he's gonna play he may as well be sitting in the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I'm not only using statistics, I've also watched every game and seen him be a liability on most nights. I'm sorry to have brought in something factual like stats into this debate. Let me take this down to your level. Kassian is a double threat, no offense and no defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelVintage Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Why does this thread get 6 pages and the 420 thread only has 1... smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzY Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Haters gonna hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelVintage Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE, THE MOST TERRIBLE PLAYER, FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY MOST DIGGITY DIGGITY, MOST CORRUPTABLE SOUL Edit: Why am I yelling, even I don't know ... I'm as retarded as this thread but hey if it feels good do it ... right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He looked better tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Love the Zack. Some very good backchecking tonight - notable actually. His underlying numbers indicate a responsible young player. Another game where he played smart, mistake free hockey. A couple nice passes - one sweet setup where he stopped up on the halfboards and found the trailer wide open for a point shot - has shown his good vision repeatedly this season. Very rarely does something that hurts his team. Complainers gonna complain, but what you're seeing is a hell of a young hockey player in the making. A rookie folks. Try a little perspective on for size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelVintage Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 For the record, I don't like Cody. I don't want Kassian (or any canuck) to fail. But lets at least agree to facts that Hodgson this year is a better goal scorer than ANYONE on our team and Kassian is playing AHL level hockey. I never blame Kassian for not being NHL ready. I'm simply arguing with the fans that say he's a good player or that defend that trade. I've always said I hope Kassian proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merci Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I really think he's taking all there is to learn in and in and in. He has this lack of intensity because he is just processing so many things at once to understand the professional level of the game. He seems like he's trying to figure out how to play smarter not harder, once he isn't making stupid mistakes you'll see the effort more. How do you have energy and intensity when your 2nd guessing every decision on the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelVintage Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Gee, that was hurtful. I may never post on the internet ever again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r0HTV7WkQk Fun fact: Hodgson dropped from being a +9 player in 71 games with Vancouver to a -3 with Buffalo in only 65 games (over this year and last). This means Hodgson has been -12 since the trade. Kassian has been -8 (52 games). Or, to look at it another way, this season Hodgson has been on the ice for 37 goals scored against Buffalo (about 27% of the goals scored against them), while Kassian has been on the ice for 20 of the goals scored against the Canucks (about 15%). I'm sure that this can (and will) be explained away as Buffalo being a poorer defensive team than the Canucks Anyhoo, I get why you are laughing maniacally. If you want to assume that Hodgson will get over 700 points over his career, we can also assume that he may well be over -150 for his career. YIKES!!! regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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