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#1 J529

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:01 PM

My reasons are the following:

Contacted NDP asking some Election Issues and where exactly they stand on them. I've received one response that they would get back to me. I've heard nothing since then. They're very secretive. Reporters will ask Dix questions and he won't respond, but then says "I'm happy to answer your question" I've seen NDP candidates asked about issues and they respond with the same thing "I'll have to get back to you" Talk about totally disorganized and unprepared.

They still have yet to release the entire platform and Horgan was on TV claiming that it would be unvealed in the next 5 days.

Dix is making promises after promises which are going to cost alot of money. Instead he should be making promises on basic things such as Health Care, etc. Frankly, I think he's the wrong leader and said so in another Thread. He's not a very good speaker and of course the baggage he brings. I can see why now Dix turned down Clark's challenge for a one on one debate. Clark would have taken him to task.

NDP is flip floping on BC Ferries

NDP cowtowing to the BCTF by promising to hire 1,000 specialized classroom assistants.

If the NDP do win Election, it will only happen because people want change. And they will be a 1 term and done Government. But I also won't be surprised if NDP lose. Whoever is advising NDP are giving them terrible advice, along with unions pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Doesn't matter which party wins, it will be the same old bs. I can see why people don't care anymore and not vote.

Edited by J529, 19 April 2013 - 07:46 PM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:09 PM

Its a 2 dog race, and i agree i dislike both dogs..


I feel like our democracy is failing us miserably.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:10 PM

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Not surprised.

They're leading the polls and are basically sitting back in the third period to protect the lead.

The NDP scares me. I remember the last time they were in power and they set the Province back at least 10 years with their financial mismanagement. I've been willing to keep an open mind on them but from what I'm already seen, some of which you've mentioned, they're already starting down that same road.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:20 PM

Dix won't comment on his election plans for 1 reason, less lies to cover up later on. I'm glad some people are waking up and seeing the NDP for what they really are.

I just hope enough people wake up before it's too late and the NDP are in charge of BC
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:22 PM

Its a 2 dog race, and i agree i dislike both dogs..


I feel like our democracy is failing us miserably.


If the Conservatives play their cards right it could easily be a 3 dog race.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:29 PM

Dix won't comment on his election plans for 1 reason, less lies to cover up later on. I'm glad some people are waking up and seeing the NDP for what they really are.

I just hope enough people wake up before it's too late and the NDP are in charge of BC


Alot of people are angry and fed up of 12 yrs of Liberals. They will overlook past NDP 90's and vote for them simply because they want change. Of course some voters didn't even live here when NDP was govt in the 90's, so they will give them a chance.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:29 PM

If the Conservatives play their cards right it could easily be a 3 dog race.


I'm no expert, but I'm not too sure it would be because they'll simply split the Liberal vote. A vote for the Conservatives here will essentially be a vote for the NDP.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:31 PM

I'm no expert, but I'm not too sure it would be because they'll simply split the Liberal vote. A vote for the Conservatives here will essentially be a vote for the NDP.


Exactly. Just as a vote for the Greens in previous elections was a vote for the Liberals.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:32 PM

Yes the had to raise the Provincial Sales tax to 7% from 5% last time they were in ..... I sutter to think how we all will have to pay for all these things they have planed...just wish there was some other party to vote for...errrr...NONE OF THE ABOVE...lol
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:33 PM

If the Conservatives play their cards right it could easily be a 3 dog race.

That seems unlikely given the infighting and bad blood.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:37 PM

And getting rid of the HST was stupid. People were pissed off not at the tax itself, but how there was no mention about it during the election and it wasn't on the Liberals radar, which I don't believe. That was the whole point of the HST being defeated was people's anger.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

And getting rid of the HST was stupid. People were pissed off not at the tax itself, but how there was no mention about it during the election and it wasn't on the Liberals radar, which I don't believe. That was the whole point of the HST being defeated was people's anger.

A lot of uninformed people who were misled by The Zalm.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

A lot of uninformed people who were misled by The Zalm.


I know low income people who get the HST/GST Credit err rather now PST/GST and with the HST now gone, it's significantly reduced the payments. Let me say those people are not at happy about it. All the people I know, they voted to keep the HST for the vary reason of not having their Credit and cheques reduced.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:51 PM

I know low income people who get the HST/GST Credit err rather now PST/GST and with the HST now gone, it's significantly reduced the payments. Let me say those people are not at happy about it. All the people I know, they voted to keep the HST for the vary reason of not having their Credit and cheques reduced.

And they were told continually throughout the campaign that this would happen and yet they listened to The Zalm and his clown car tour backed by the BC NDP.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

And getting rid of the HST was stupid. People were pissed off not at the tax itself, but how there was no mention about it during the election and it wasn't on the Liberals radar, which I don't believe. That was the whole point of the HST being defeated was people's anger.


Exactly. And for that the people of this province got taken for a ride by the NDP and Vander Zalm's personal vendetta against the liberals, both of whom have used that anger for their own political gain and not for the long term benefit of the province and the people who live here (and the HST most definitely would have been beneficial long term).
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 05:58 PM

Exactly. And for that the people of this province got taken for a ride by the NDP and Vander Zalm's personal vendetta against the liberals, both of whom have used that anger for their own political gain and not for the long term benefit of the province and the people who live here (and the HST most definitely would have been beneficial long term).

And if the BC NDP are elected, the joke will be on those who voted against the HST because that miniscule temporary tax increase for some will be nothing compared to what the BC NDP will be needing to raise in taxes across the board.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:04 PM

My reasons are the following:

Contacted NDP asking some Election Issues and where exactly they stand on them. I've received one response that they would get back to me. I've heard nothing since then. They're very secretive. Reporters will ask Dix questions and he won't respond, but then says "I'm happy to answer your question" I've seen NDP candidates asked about issues and they respond with the same thing "I'll have to get back to you" Talk about totally disorganized and unprepared.

They still have let to released the entire platform and Horgan was on TV claiming that it would be unvealed in the next 5 days.

Dix is making promises after promises which are going to cost alot of money. Instead he should be making promises on basic things such as Health Care, etc. Frankly, I think he's the wrong leader and said so in another Thread. He's not a very good speaker and of course the baggage he brings. I can see why now Dix turned down Clark's challenge for a one on one debate. Clark would have taken him to task.

NDP is flip floping on BC Ferries

NDP cowtowering to the BCTF by promising to hire 1,000 specialized classroom assistants.

If the NDP do win Election, it will only happen because people want change. And they will be a 1 term and done Government. But I also won't be surprised if NDP lose. Whoever is advising NDP are giving them terrible advice, along with unions pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Doesn't matter which party wins, it will be the same old bs. I can see why people don't care anymore and not vote.


I am sure the NDP has lost all confidence based on your outright dismissal of them ..
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:04 PM

And if the BC NDP are elected, the joke will be on those who voted against the HST because that miniscule temporary tax increase for some will be nothing compared to what the BC NDP will be needing to raise in taxes across the board.


Yup. Makes my blood boil.

People here need to see past the rhetoric and realize what's coming toward us down the track. And unfortunately it'll be my kids and those of voting age today who'll pay the price, literally, for years to come.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:05 PM

And they were told continually throughout the campaign that this would happen and yet they listened to The Zalm and his clown car tour backed by the BC NDP.


NDP can run on returning the HST HONESTLY and bring it back .. then all you "righties" will put yer other shoe on .. :towel:
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

I am sure the NDP has lost all confidence based on your outright dismissal of them ..


One of their campaign stops yesterday in the Education Minister's riding (I believe it was) NDP staffers outnumbered NDP supporters.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:27 PM

Thing is...if you dislike the NDP so much why don't you do your best to prevent them from going into power by voting for the Liberals? Of course, the Liberals aren't exactly the best choice either but when you look at the alternatives I think you have to choose the Liberals

Edited by monkeydluffy, 20 April 2013 - 12:05 PM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 06:40 PM

Either way I'm getting screwed. Which one would I rather bend over for is the real question.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:19 PM

Whoever wins, BC loses. This province is going down the crapter.

It is going to be a crappy time for everyone.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:23 PM

I thought everyone was done with NDP after the screwup with the ferries.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:36 PM

Vote for Aladeen!
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:44 PM

Vote for Aladeen!



I would, but you would just open the border to Aladeen land.
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 07:48 PM

If there's an independent running in your riding vote for them!
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 09:40 PM

I remember watching a news report from Global a couple of days ago. They were talking about how a lot more people than usual are declared as undecided voters right now. I think that shows how there is some hope, many people do see the incompentencies of both parties.

Looks like I'm going Green for my first ever election.

Edited by KoreanHockeyFan, 19 April 2013 - 09:40 PM.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 10:15 PM

A lot of uninformed people who were misled by The Zalm.

You forgot the clown car.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 01:00 AM

I would rather vote for anybody on cdc. If any of yous were running of course.
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