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#1 CanuckleHorse

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:11 PM

This year AV juggled his lines when on a winning streak 3 times each time his team looked out of sync confused and made a lot of mistakes. So why would he not go back to what was working instead he seems to get stubborn like he wants to prove that he could win with the lineup. AV never ever plays the lines that make sense instead he would throw a RW on LW and vice versa also use wingers for centers and centers on wing. AV makes me sick when i see his face it angers me if he stays after this season as much as i love the Canucks i gotta let go!

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:20 PM

Logic suggests that maybe he is trying to figure out other possible line combinations that could work for us in the future, if the current roster starts to struggle.

The reality is probably that he does it for the poops and giggles.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:32 PM

It's common trend for AV to juggle the lines during a win streak, and it's retarded. I would put money on it that he's still juggling them come Playoffs.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

How beneficial? Not very.

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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

It's a good tactic because you have a chance make your team even better with more chemistry
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

He's looking at all possible combinations. Its probably not good for chemistry, but he needs contingencies if there are injuries or the team goes south.
What is the deal with Mike Gillis, it always seems like he's sweating...

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:43 AM

It's common trend for AV to juggle the lines during a win streak, and it's retarded. I would put money on it that he's still juggling them come Playoffs.


Well said and in my opinion if we flop in these playoffs, even although I hold MG equally responsible, he will pay for it with his job.

Unfortunately both AV and MG have the troubling character defect of being unable to learn from previous mistakes.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 04:52 AM

He's looking at all possible combinations. Its probably not good for chemistry, but he needs contingencies if there are injuries or the team goes south.


With respect I think anyone would have difficulty proving the logic in that approach.

I am into a lot of sports, especially team sports and know no other coach/team that would totally destroy chemistry and team formation (especially when winning) on the off chance they get the exact injuries they were planning for............FFS, that is the logic of the loony.

Players have optimum positions and optimum playing partners. In effect he is handicapping this team in conditions that hardly ever compare with Playoff conditions anyway. Chemistry, winning mentality, and high tempo are what takes a team to victory. AV, by his constant chopping and changing is in danger of ruining all three.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:32 AM

With respect I think anyone would have difficulty proving the logic in that approach.

I am into a lot of sports, especially team sports and know no other coach/team that would totally destroy chemistry and team formation (especially when winning) on the off chance they get the exact injuries they were planning for............FFS, that is the logic of the loony.

Players have optimum positions and optimum playing partners. In effect he is handicapping this team in conditions that hardly ever compare with Playoff conditions anyway. Chemistry, winning mentality, and high tempo are what takes a team to victory. AV, by his constant chopping and changing is in danger of ruining all three.

I still give Gillis a pass to a certain point. He is responsible for the players and crap contracts he's signed players to. It can be debated how ever that AV has misused the assets provided him buy Gillis. AV has won a lot of games and won nothing in the end. AV is the weak link.
Gillis' biggest mistake as GM in the big picture could be keeping AV on after the previous regime. In the big picture AV has stopped Gillis from putting his ultimate GM's stamp on this club.
I know you live in the reality as do I,that this present Canucks team is going no where in the play offs. Sure they want to win, we want them to have that ultimate success too, but after watching this club for 40 plus years I know where reality falls and it's not on this years club.

In my mind it's either over whelming success or ultimate disaster that would satisfy me in this lock out season. For me I let things go long ago when both players and owners were squabbling, I haven't forgotten. I would wish for a play off miss but that's not going to happen. Anything to rid this club of AV. Gillis gets one more year with out the albatross behind the bench.

As I see it this club has nothing to move forward. Still not tough enough. Sedins are great but their leadership has become mute!

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 07:39 AM

At this point, if AV doesn't win a cup, Gillis needs to fire him. If Gillis won't fire AV he needs to be replaced with a GM who will.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:42 AM

some of his lines are just stupid like putting hansen with the sedins. he knows that we wont to win right........RIGHT

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:12 AM

I still give Gillis a pass to a certain point. He is responsible for the players and crap contracts he's signed players to. It can be debated how ever that AV has misused the assets provided him buy Gillis. AV has won a lot of games and won nothing in the end. AV is the weak link.
Gillis' biggest mistake as GM in the big picture could be keeping AV on after the previous regime. In the big picture AV has stopped Gillis from putting his ultimate GM's stamp on this club.
I know you live in the reality as do I,that this present Canucks team is going no where in the play offs. Sure they want to win, we want them to have that ultimate success too, but after watching this club for 40 plus years I know where reality falls and it's not on this years club.

In my mind it's either over whelming success or ultimate disaster that would satisfy me in this lock out season. For me I let things go long ago when both players and owners were squabbling, I haven't forgotten. I would wish for a play off miss but that's not going to happen. Anything to rid this club of AV. Gillis gets one more year with out the albatross behind the bench.

As I see it this club has nothing to move forward. Still not tough enough. Sedins are great but their leadership has become mute!




I agree, there is a break somewhere in this organization that isn't working like it should. I think gillis has done a good job putting a competitive team together for years. Players have exceeded expectations, won hearts, selke, vezina nomination. The team has won president trophies, division, and conference titles.

Knowing we have all these great players that aren't playing up to snuff is what hurts the most. It's the coaches job to get the team fired up and ready for a game but we never are. Always come out flat and uninterested, seen it all year this year and in every big game over the last five years or so.


To answer the question, No I think line juggling is a bad idea. It's amazing to see people say he's just testing things out for playoffs. I don't know if you have watched the Canucks for many years now but the juggling won't stop in the playoffs, it's AVs signature.

Edited by kylecanuck, 20 April 2013 - 09:15 AM.

The children, wont someone please think of the children!!!




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