DownUndaCanuck Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 So basically Canucks coaches rode Bieksa hard with an injury so we won some meaningless regular season games - now he's injured and might not start the playoffs. Good one guys. Before tonight we were 1-5-3 without Bieksa in the lineup (the win against Detroit barely counts as a win in my books). If Kevin Bieksa isn't in our starting lineup for Game 1 of the playoffs, this defence is going to get shredded apart and the Canucks are done in 4 or 5. Doesn't matter who's in net and how well they play, if we get continue to get out-shot and out-chanced 2-1 against non-playoff teams, what chance do we have against the big boys of the league? The Canucks have faced injuries to forwards all season long and dealt with them admirably by playing solid defence. Now we have injuries to defencemen and we can't play a solid stay-at-home style. AV is trying to open it up and let the forwards carry the game, but that's leaving our AHL defencemen like Ballard, Barker and Alberts vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I feel like they haven't learned anything with injuries. AV is the type of coach that throws his players right back into tough minutes as soon as they're medically cleared. And all that does is make sure the player is only able to play at 70% the whole season because they're never fully healed. A groin injury is not something you just play through. If not healed properly, it will nag a player all season. Even with Tanev after he got hit and twisted his ankle, they let him play the rest of the game. What's the point? They probably made his injury even worse by doing that. I feel like this team is way too short-sighted when it comes to these things. Winning now doesn't matter if it hurts our chances to win when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 So basically Canucks coaches rode Bieksa hard with an injury so we won some meaningless regular season games - now he's injured and might not start the playoffs. Good one guys. Before tonight we were 1-5-3 without Bieksa in the lineup (the win against Detroit barely counts as a win in my books). If Kevin Bieksa isn't in our starting lineup for Game 1 of the playoffs, this defence is going to get shredded apart and the Canucks are done in 4 or 5. Doesn't matter who's in net and how well they play, if we get continue to get out-shot and out-chanced 2-1 against non-playoff teams, what chance do we have against the big boys of the league? The Canucks have faced injuries to forwards all season long and dealt with them admirably by playing solid defence. Now we have injuries to defencemen and we can't play a solid stay-at-home style. AV is trying to open it up and let the forwards carry the game, but that's leaving our AHL defencemen like Ballard, Barker and Alberts vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 So basically Canucks coaches rode Bieksa hard with an injury so we won some meaningless regular season games - now he's injured and might not start the playoffs. Good one guys. Before tonight we were 1-5-3 without Bieksa in the lineup (the win against Detroit barely counts as a win in my books). If Kevin Bieksa isn't in our starting lineup for Game 1 of the playoffs, this defence is going to get shredded apart and the Canucks are done in 4 or 5. Doesn't matter who's in net and how well they play, if we get continue to get out-shot and out-chanced 2-1 against non-playoff teams, what chance do we have against the big boys of the league? The Canucks have faced injuries to forwards all season long and dealt with them admirably by playing solid defence. Now we have injuries to defencemen and we can't play a solid stay-at-home style. AV is trying to open it up and let the forwards carry the game, but that's leaving our AHL defencemen like Ballard, Barker and Alberts vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edlerberry Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 PS - if it is indeed a groin-issue, what's AV going to do? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he swear on his daughters that it wasn't. Dilemma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I feel like they haven't learned anything with injuries. AV is the type of coach that throws his players right back into tough minutes as soon as they're medically cleared. And all that does is make sure the player is only able to play at 70% the whole season because they're never fully healed. A groin injury is not something you just play through. If not healed properly, it will nag a player all season. Even with Tanev after he got hit and twisted his ankle, they let him play the rest of the game. What's the point? They probably made his injury even worse by doing that. I feel like this team is way too short-sighted when it comes to these things. Winning now doesn't matter if it hurts our chances to win when it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Fresh Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 What really caused Bieksa's groin injury : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovocop55 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Never understand why they kept playing kB when he was clearly hurt... I saw a few big hits after he came from injury, and I was like now he would be out a few more games for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Well, frack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBestPlaceOnEarth Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 OK, so we know Bieksa's been playing with a groin injury going back early in the season. But we are terrible without Bieksa, if he'd stayed out much longer who knows, we could have missed the playoffs. Now we have some time here to let him rest up. Same deal with Tanev, he was playing through whatever was wrong with him for at least a few games, because we need him and Bieksa, they are our most important players because the blueline is weak on that side. I think that except for Booth, the guys who are out are out for rest and maintenance pre-playoffs, not because they absolutely cannot play, if these games were more important they'd be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 So our 2 RHD are missing and noone knows when they are coming back. Let's pray our goalies stand on their heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks.brad Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 dont worry guys! I just came back from the Canucks dressing room and Kevin's groin has never felt better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteeun Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 dont worry guys! I just came back from the Canucks dressing room and Kevin's groin has never felt better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JelloIce Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 What did you do to his groin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Typical of Canucks fans to use this situation as another reason to crap on AV. When Kesler came back AV reduced his minutes to 15:30-16:30 with no special teams (except one PP, I think) for a few games till he was in game shape. AV has no control over Bieksa saying he is feeling good and ready to play. Bieksa even said he felt good in an interview after the game... (After he had come back from the groin injury). As for Tanev, Tanev playing the rest of the game was 100% on the medical staff clearing him to play, not on AV. It's not like the medical staff said "he isnt fit to play" and AV went against that and played him... I swear half the people on this forum are so blinded by their hatred for X and Y person that every single post is laden with fallacious and bias thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooBie604 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Wow the logic for hate on these boards is quite strong. I'm pretty much indifferent to AV, don't hate him but don't like him. But to blame him because an injured player who says he's ready to play after being cleared by the medical staff is somehow his fault as well? If I came to work with a sore muscle and told my boss I was fine to work and somehow got injured, should I blame my boss? Hell no. It's up to the players who know their pain the best to decide if they should slot back in the line up. I mean what do you expect AV to get a medical license so he can access his players after the medical staff says they are cleared to play and the player themselves say they are ready to go? Half the players in the NHL are playing injured right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 it true there is a lot of blindness on this forum, but mostly it is blind love for AV and GMMG. People who eat up and regurgitate their every word as gospel. This issue of playing injured is the culture that AV has brought to the team. He has said many times that he listens to his players about when they are ready, however, he called out Hodgson and he called out Kesler, ( 1 rookie and 1 vet) so what is his real message to his players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 While Bieksa is out of the lineup why not try vandermeer, I am not suggesting hes a saviour but while bieksa is out of the lineup it wouldnt hurt to replace him with some grit. See if he can fill in 6th d minutes come playoff time or if we are getting pushed around we have some guys that will push back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobopan Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 lol green men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.