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You don't get it. This isn't about being physical. This is about standing up for yourself. People throw out junk like "Well the Canucks got a powerplay" and "Well the Sedins aren't physical" like it's justification for just standing there and letting someone repeatedly strike them.

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I'd say not having Higgins, Tanev, Bieksa ,Booth ,and Malhotra not in the lineup is a big part of this team. You're replacing those players with ebbett, barker, alberts , pinizzotto . what do you expect? Yeah sometimes injuries are an excuse, sometimes they aren't , and this team is still getting it done. Even if its stellar goaltending that does it you're still winning.

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Higgins was one of our best players before he got injured. Booth? Not sure he was brought in as a depth guy. Replace Tanev with Barker. One who can make an outlet pass the other who throws it to other team's D. Bieksa, he can pinch, lead the rush and score the occasional goal. Instead you have shot-a-mile wide alberts skating in mud.

You can talk all you want about these being depth players but to me the difference is night and day.

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Couldn't agree more with all of this. It's not about the actual players, it's about the culture. If hockey was played on paper, damn right this team would have won a Cup by now. But it's played on the ice, where other things like grit, leadership and determination matter. They say a team's leaders have a trickle down effect and unfortunately some of the worst qualities you can have when competing for the toughest trophy in sports are trickling down from the captain.

Look at Daniel and how he was just taking those cross checks from Franzen. Look at how he had his head down and was holding Franzen's leg, begging for mercy. Is that the kind of player we want leading our team in the pursuit of the Stanley Cup?

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In a sentence, I am officially predicting that the Vancouver Canucks will MISS the playoffs in 2013.

Here's why:

-Goaltending fiasco. Don't care about PC responses from the players or the GM, this will be a major distraction that will have an adverse effect on team morale. Awkward locker room. Poor allocation of cap dollars. I've said for a long time that the Canucks really missed the boat by not trading Schneider for something that could've seriously helped up in a Cup run last year, and it will for a long time be a regret of ours, IMO. Whatever we get for Luongo will be unexciting and we'll still have a relatively unproven goalie backstopping an alleged "team built to win now". Not a good combination.

-Complacency. Why didn't anybody go to Europe? Practicing with the UBC team is hardly an adequate preparation for the season. Makes me think that this bunch has largely lost their hunger. A 5-game post-season exit last year adds credence to this thought. By not going to Europe/Russia, the message in essence is that they'd rather stay in their posh Vancouver homes than be bothered to go try and compete to help stay sharp. Not a good sign. Of course, this doesn't include everybody, but the vast majority of the team chose to not play hockey in the downtime. I expect it to cost them.

-Calgary has gotten better. Added good scoring depth in Hudler, and late-season acquisition Cammalleri. Got rid of Jokinen, which is addition by subtraction. Got a proven PP QB in Wideman. Most importantly, a new coach. Would not surprise me at all to see the Flames win the division, somewhat like the Canucks did in '06-'07, out of nowhere and under AV's rookie year behind the bench.

-Edmonton has gotten better. Justin Schultz is going to be a star. I like the Fistric acquisition a lot. Dubnyk was very good at the Spengler Cup. Heavy momentum going into the year. Key guys are already in mid-season form.

-Minnesota has gotten better. Granlund, Parise, & Suter should all have an immediate and material impact.

David Booth's injury announcement yesterday just makes me more confident that this is one of those years where essentially everything's going to go wrong for the Canucks. the Jason Garrison signing is also one that I was/am vehemently against. Don't expect it to turn out good. Sami Salo's presence on the back end will be sorely missed.

And no, I am not "hating", so please don't suggest that I am. This is an opinion of mine that I am fully entitled to. Feel free to debate and/or include your own prediction.

/topic/338398-the-tide-has-turned-in-vancouver-a-prediction/#entry11065503">http://forum.canucks.../#entry11065503 of the BS

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Higgins was one of our best players before he got injured. Booth? Not sure he was brought in as a depth guy. Replace Tanev with Barker. One who can make an outlet pass the other who throws it to other team's D. Bieksa, he can pinch, lead the rush and score the occasional goal. Instead you have shot-a-mile wide alberts skating in mud.

You can talk all you want about these being depth players but to me the difference is night and day.

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all i gotta say is way to go scnheider you were the 1 canuck playing really good 17 shots to 2 in the 3rd period thats a joke. we have to do better then that. we will not go very far taking 15 schots a game and giving up 17 in 1 period....

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I saw a few good, clean hits tonight against Detroit and none of them were by Kassian, our supposed physical presence.

Pinozotto has one

Edler had a great one on Franzen I believe!

Weise had one (on Datsyuk)

Kesler had one (on Datsyuk again)

That's what you have to do to good players like Datsyuk, unless you're more skilled than him and basically nobody on the Canucks is.

All I saw Kassian do was get poke-checked at the Detroit line...Sigh. Pathetic. Doesn't even try to throw a hit. Oh and he was on the second line tonight, 13:19 TOI and did nothing. So what's his excuse this game? He was playing with Kes and MayRay....

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Absolutely terrible game by everyone except Garrison and Schneider. Say what you want about Detroit, they're a non-playoff team right now and they embarassed us. Nearly outshot us 3-1 and out-chanced us as well.

Jason Garrison played a mammoth game for the Canucks once again - he is by far our best defenceman, if not our MVP, and no one is giving him the credit he deserves. Defensively, this guy is a stud in front of our own net. I'm always watching him clear the crease with ease, and he has a nasty streak to him that the Canucks have missed since Mitchell left. Thank god for Garrison, because without him this team is not a playoff team and the defence REALLY would have fallen apart. That's not even to mention the half a dozen scoring chances he created.

Alberts had a strong game as well, as did Barker who was throwing great passes up the ice all night long.

Up front, our forwards couldn't muster any offence up. Everyone was invisible, save for Burrows and Hansen on a couple of "chances" that didn't even make it on net.

Blame fatigue, blame lack of motivation, but performances like this against the 9th seed is a joke.

As for Schneider, I said a while ago that whoever comes up with clutch saves at key times in games deserves to be our starting goalie for the playoffs, and Schneider made some huge saves late in the game, as well as in overtime which is what you need in the playoffs. This was one game against a terrible offence though (Detroit have really struggled offensively of late so don't look too much into this) - I will judge his entire season based on his performances against Chicago and Anaheim.

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Higgins was one of our best players before he got injured. Booth? Not sure he was brought in as a depth guy. Replace Tanev with Barker. One who can make an outlet pass the other who throws it to other team's D. Bieksa, he can pinch, lead the rush and score the occasional goal. Instead you have shot-a-mile wide alberts skating in mud.

You can talk all you want about these being depth players but to me the difference is night and day.

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Absolutely terrible game by everyone except Garrison and Schneider. Say what you want about Detroit, they're a non-playoff team right now and they embarassed us. Nearly outshot us 3-1 and out-chanced us as well.

Jason Garrison played a mammoth game for the Canucks once again - he is by far our best defenceman, if not our MVP, and no one is giving him the credit he deserves. Defensively, this guy is a stud in front of our own net. I'm always watching him clear the crease with ease, and he has a nasty streak to him that the Canucks have missed since Mitchell left. Thank god for Garrison, because without him this team is not a playoff team and the defence REALLY would have fallen apart. That's not even to mention the half a dozen scoring chances he created.

Alberts had a strong game as well, as did Barker who was throwing great passes up the ice all night long.

Up front, our forwards couldn't muster any offence up. Everyone was invisible, save for Burrows and Hansen on a couple of "chances" that didn't even make it on net.

Blame fatigue, blame lack of motivation, but performances like this against the 9th seed is a joke.

As for Schneider, I said a while ago that whoever comes up with clutch saves at key times in games deserves to be our starting goalie for the playoffs, and Schneider made some huge saves late in the game, as well as in overtime which is what you need in the playoffs. This was one game against a terrible offence though (Detroit have really struggled offensively of late so don't look too much into this) - I will judge his entire season based on his performances against Chicago and Anaheim.

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Fun fact.

Michael Grabner 16G

Cody Hodgson 15G

Would be the leading goal scorers on our team by a few goals, and this team would have a future with young talented players making a difference right now.

I was on board when Gillis was hired but he has been a failure hate to say. This team is much worse than it could/should be

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Fun fact.

Michael Grabner 16G

Cody Hodgson 15G

Would be the leading goal scorers on our team by a few goals, and this team would have a future with young talented players making a difference right now.

I was on board when Gillis was hired but he has been a failure hate to say. This team is much worse than it could/should be

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I hope the Sedins stay good into the later 30s

Maybe when Kesler is on the first line with a developed Kassian and Jensen we can dominate like we used to.

Jensen Kesler Kassian

Sedin Sedin Burrows

Higgins Gaunce Hansen

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