D-Money Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Maybe when the twins get wide open chances, all alone, just them and the goalie...they should try shooting it? ...ahhh, what do I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPS Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Sometimes it is a mental thing. When you enter the game thinking you cannot score more than 1 goal, chances are you won't and you losses 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 That's what happens when you have a defenisve style coach, who is afraid of taking chances, which shouldn't be the case when you have 2 of the best goalies behind you, just bad coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorrcoq Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Exactly I miss the Crawford days when it was more about offence, don't get me wrong Cloutier was a decent goalie he wasn't the greatest because he wasn't the biggest, but he was a quick goalie. If Crawford had a goalie like Luongo when he was here coaching or even Schneider, I beat you one of those years they could of won the cup. It's the fact that the last 3-4 years this team has more skill then when Crawford was coaching, better goalies about the same in D, but better offence, but the offence now is limited to what they are allowed to do, because AV is all about defence first. Also because our coach isn't an offensive coach, he doesn't have much input for the players for new strategies to break through oppostions D, and that is what kills this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sliceoflife94 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Our offence always evaporates because teams now know how to shut down the sedins, no matter how good they are, if they don't get support from other lines, i hate to say it but the canucks arent going anywhere. These are my dream lines: Sedin-Sedin-Burrows/Kassian Higgins-Kesler-Roy Raymond-Schroeder-Hansen Burrows/Kassian-Lappierre-Weise/Pinnizoto/Sestito and maybe put gaunce in there. I would love to have gaunce in the canucks line up because his team just got knocked out of the playoffs so he is already in deep playoff mode and is very hungry for a postseason win. I feel like if AV gave him a shot he would really surprise a lot of people. He is very similar to Kesler. He is a great 2 way forward. Defensively, he probably wont be making too many mistakes, and he has been known to play better as games become more important. For example; In game 6, his team needed the win to bring it to 7 games. In that game 6, he scored twice and I believe he added an assist or 2. GIVE THIS GUY A CHANCE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rampage Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Ehrhoff and Garrison are completely different players. Now that both Ehrhoff and Salo are gone, we have no defenseman who can make a good first pass. Also Edler seems to fall apart without having a decent mentor as his partner, ie. Ohlund, Salo, Ehrhoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 lol even if they call it as is and we get powerplay.. all we do is pass pass pass pass pass... our powerplay have been ineffective all year so even if we get it in the playoff we won't do anything with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 No offence since the finals. Coincidentally, that was when Ehrhoff got injured. No Salo, or Samuelsson. PP is so much worse than before. We lost all our good shooters. And a good chunk of our goals came from the PP. Now no one plays with urgency. The games are certainly not as fun to watch anymore. Haven't been for 2 years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Yeah, I'm pretty sure AV's pre-game speech doesn't include telling the players not to score, and specifically for Daniel not to shoot when he gets a chance. Goof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's the same guy coaching as when we had back to back scoring champions, and when we led the league in goals for two years ago. Quit trying to make up crap to validate your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socrates Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I don't agree with AV's philosophy of adapting to the opposition. We are the favorites, they should adapt their game to ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 In 8 of the first 9 playoff games, the losing team has scored 1 goal or less. The Habs scored 2 in losing to Ottawa. The exception was the Wings/Ducks last night. Much ado about nothing. It's the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANGO Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Its a game of inches and timing (momentum), that game could have gone either way. Scoring goals would help allot as well. One off the top of the net, one of the cross bar, if either had gone in it would have been a different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_devil Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 For starters two usless players in the line up come playoffs ie Ebbet and then Raymond which does not help the eternally soft Sedin line that constantly gets pushed around. Then add in the fact your coach is a defensive specialist and begginer when it comes to offence and that's what you get! A team that can't score and has to rely on their opponet to put the puck in the net for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginu Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Two years and this issue has not been fixed... No wonder they can't even sell playoff tickets this year and I fear this is not the worst we've seen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 For starters two usless players in the line up come playoffs ie Ebbet and then Raymond which does not help the eternally soft Sedin line that constantly gets pushed around. Then add in the fact your coach is a defensive specialist and begginer when it comes to offence and that's what you get! A team that can't score and has to rely on their opponet to put the puck in the net for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It doesn't help either when you have over twelve million dollars in Booth, Ballard and Schneider or Luongo. Booth doesn't do anything, Ballard sits in the press box and either one of the goalies isn't playing. Now imagine if the Canucks had that $ for July 1. Furthermore, this team has simply struggled to score goals against the playoff caliber teams this season. I quickly looked at the last 12 games and they only managed 27 goals, or 2.25 a game, which is significantly less than what they have averaged throughout the season. Evidently we've just beat up the basement dwellers. Perhaps this trend is also consistent with other playoff teams, I can't say since I haven't looked at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 We didn't have one guy in the regular season on pace for 25 goals. Daniel and Kesler need to be our scorers. Without them shooting the puck more and picking their targets, we have a team of passers. We have plenty of guys who will score gritty goals, like Higgins, Kassian, Burrows and Hansen, but no true sniper or game-changer right now, and that's the problem. This team has traded skill for grit, and by losing true shooters like Hodgson, Ehrhoff and Samuelsson, only to be replaced by Garrison, Roy and Booth, we trade shooting ability for toughness and playmaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Is it a coincidence that our offense evaporates most out of all the teams that have consistently made the playoffs in the last few years? I refuse to believe it. 13 goals in the last 11 playoff games. I don't care if you put Patrick Roy in net during his prime.. you simply are not going to win playoff games at almost a goal a game pace. So the onus should be on our top scorers and coaching staff to do more. A lot more. What adjustments do you guys think have to be made to score more goals? I think first and foremost, to score goals in the playoffs you have to have determination and grit. Crash the net, get in the goalies kitchen. Stand there and take the hacks and wacks. Make them uncomfortable. Yet all i saw yesterday were say a prayer shots from Raymond and unconfident, double clutching Sedin twins. Skill can only take you so far when it comes to scoring goals in the playoffs. You have to WANT it. Don't look for the perfect plays, just fire at the net. Shoot at Niemis pads and get rebounds that way. Daniel needs to not think to much and just shoot.. he's looking like Henrik out there. I also suggest stacking the lines like some teams do in the playoffs. It is known to have success. Just look at Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan line a couple years ago. Very difficult to contain. We can have two stacked lines with the players we have. Putting weaker players with better ones will not make the weaker players significantly better (unless your Crosby like talent wise). What are some of your guys suggestions? Is this more of a coaching thing or something players have to fix from within? Clearly offense is what is wrong here. If we score more than a goal a game I believe we have the defense and goaltending to go deep this year. Go Canucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodee Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's the same guy coaching as when we had back to back scoring champions, and when we led the league in goals for two years ago. Quit trying to make up crap to validate your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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