Jump to content

Welcome to canucks.com Vancouver Canucks homepage

Photo
* * * - - 5 votes

We will regret the way this franchise treated Roberto Luongo


  • Please log in to reply
341 replies to this topic

#1 BigRedMachine

BigRedMachine

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Joined: 14-April 06

Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:37 AM

*
POPULAR

I am going to preface this by saying that I am not a Luongo fanboy. Far from it. I have actually been fairly critical of him in the past. That being said, I think the Canucks management his completely botched this goalie situation and turned what should have been an asset into a complete liability.

I am have been a fan for more than long enough to remember what a goalie graveyard this franchise has been, particularly between the departure of Kirk McLean, and the arrival of Roberto Luongo. We went through a number of goalies, including Garth Snow, Kevin Weekes, Alex Auld, Dan Cloutier, Felix Potvin, Johan Hedberg and Arturs Irbe, to name but a few. Some of those were never cut out to be number one goalies, but some had decent careers outside of Vancouver. Something about this franchise seemed to sap the confidence of our goalies.

When Luongo arrived, he brought some stability between the pipes in Vancouver that we hadn't had for a long time. While he has never won the Vezina, he has certainly turned in some memorable performances, and is probably the best goaltender to ever put on the Canucks uniform to date.

In 2009, Gillis decided to sign him to a front-end loaded 12 year contract with a no-trade clause. I'm not sure why management chose to handcuff themselves in that way, but you would think this would indicate that they saw him as their #1 goaltender for the forseeable future.

Cory Schneider's development into a top notch goaltender provided the Canucks with an embarassment of riches in net. Yet somehow, management squandered that advantage.

During the 2012 series with the Kings, the Canucks decided to switch horses mid-stream, and start Schneider over Luongo. It wasn't like Luongo's play was costing us the series, but I guess they figured a fresh face in net might kick-start our non-existent offence. It didn't.

There was no reason to treat that change as permanent, but the Canucks organization did. For reasons unknown to me, they made it clear Schneider was their guy from here on in, and Luongo wasn't wanted.

Nonetheless, Gillis seemed to have some pretty unrealistic expectations about what he might get in return for a guy with 10 years left on his contract and a significant cap hit. So, at the start of the season in 2013, Roberto Luongo was still a Canuck.

Management then did a whole song and dance about how we had two #1's, even though it was pretty clear they were shopping Luongo. And after alternating them for awhile, they essentially elected to bench Luongo for no obvious reason. Schneider had the better numbers , but Luongo was playing well, had the hot hand in February, and certainly deserved to start at least as often as any other NHL backup would. And why you wouldn't want to showcase a guy you are trying to trade is beyond me. Anyway, management chose to play Schneider almost exclusively down the stretch, which may very well have contributed to his getting injured toward the end of the season.

So with Schneider injured and then sick, Luongo gets the start against the Sharks. Despite playing well in Games 1 and 2, the Canucks again decide to switch horses mid-stream, and start Schneider, who hasn't played in two weeks and is recovering from injury and illness, in a must-win game. The result was pretty predictable. In the post-game press conference, Vigneault pretty much throws Schneider under the bus and doesn't take any responsibility for his own boneheaded decision. In the post-season press conference Gilis made it pretty clear that he still plans to move Luongo.

I think both goalies dealt with this crappy situation with class throughout. It was clear they both wanted the situation over and done with, but there was hardly a complaint throughout. Management, on the other hand, has inflamed the controversy at nearly every opportunity. I think they've actually managed to undermine the self-confidence of both of their goalies, and I wouldn't be surprised if both of them have soured significantly on the Canucks organization. He's certainly managed to reduce Luongo's trade value even further.

Quite frankly, I think management has dealt with one of our all-time greatest players in a callous and high-handed way, and in the process done a disservice to Roberto, to the fans, and to the organization. They could have dealt with this situation in a way that left allot less bad blood all around.

As I watched the Canucks try to mend fences with Pavel Bure (who was similarly run out of town) this season, it occurred to me that while we were re-building one bridge, we were burning down another. I get the feeling we are going to look back on this fiasco someday in a similar light.

I wish Roberto all the best in the future. I wish the best of luck to Cory Schneider: he will need it in dealing with this franchise, its often unrealistic fan base, and its quite frankly incompetent management. Here's hoping we don't become another goalie graveyard.
  • 63

#2 TheRussianRocket™

TheRussianRocket™

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,470 posts
  • Joined: 06-May 13

Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:45 AM

Yes we will..
  • 0

fD9sila.jpg
^^Salter^^


#3 Nino

Nino

    Canucks Third-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,509 posts
  • Joined: 10-May 10

Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:59 AM

Lou wants out, let it be. Cory is going to be a good goalie for us moving forward.

  • 0

#4 JensenFan2011

JensenFan2011

    Canucks Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,394 posts
  • Joined: 21-September 10

Posted 10 May 2013 - 07:59 AM

nah luongo sucks
  • 2

#5 aqua59

aqua59

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,810 posts
  • Joined: 16-January 08

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:06 AM

*
POPULAR

I am going to preface this by saying that I am not a Luongo fanboy. Far from it. I have actually been fairly critical of him in the past. That being said, I think the Canucks management his completely botched this goalie situation and turned what should have been an asset into a complete liability.

I am have been a fan for more than long enough to remember what a goalie graveyard this franchise has been, particularly between the departure of Kirk McLean, and the arrival of Roberto Luongo. We went through a number of goalies, including Garth Snow, Kevin Weekes, Alex Auld, Dan Cloutier, Felix Potvin, Johan Hedberg and Arturs Irbe, to name but a few. Some of those were never cut out to be number one goalies, but some had decent careers outside of Vancouver. Something about this franchise seemed to sap the confidence of our goalies.

When Luongo arrived, he brought some stability between the pipes in Vancouver that we hadn't had for a long time. While he has never won the Vezina, he has certainly turned in some memorable performances, and is probably the best goaltender to ever put on the Canucks uniform to date.

In 2009, Gillis decided to sign him to a front-end loaded 12 year contract with a no-trade clause. I'm not sure why management chose to handcuff themselves in that way, but you would think this would indicate that they saw him as their #1 goaltender for the forseeable future.

Cory Schneider's development into a top notch goaltender provided the Canucks with an embarassment of riches in net. Yet somehow, management squandered that advantage.

During the 2012 series with the Kings, the Canucks decided to switch horses mid-stream, and start Schneider over Luongo. It wasn't like Luongo's play was costing us the series, but I guess they figured a fresh face in net might kick-start our non-existent offence. It didn't.

There was no reason to treat that change as permanent, but the Canucks organization did. For reasons unknown to me, they made it clear Schneider was their guy from here on in, and Luongo wasn't wanted.

Nonetheless, Gillis seemed to have some pretty unrealistic expectations about what he might get in return for a guy with 10 years left on his contract and a significant cap hit. So, at the start of the season in 2013, Roberto Luongo was still a Canuck.

Management then did a whole song and dance about how we had two #1's, even though it was pretty clear they were shopping Luongo. And after alternating them for awhile, they essentially elected to bench Luongo for no obvious reason. Schneider had the better numbers , but Luongo was playing well, had the hot hand in February, and certainly deserved to start at least as often as any other NHL backup would. And why you wouldn't want to showcase a guy you are trying to trade is beyond me. Anyway, management chose to play Schneider almost exclusively down the stretch, which may very well have contributed to his getting injured toward the end of the season.

So with Schneider injured and then sick, Luongo gets the start against the Sharks. Despite playing well in Games 1 and 2, the Canucks again decide to switch horses mid-stream, and start Schneider, who hasn't played in two weeks and is recovering from injury and illness, in a must-win game. The result was pretty predictable. In the post-game press conference, Vigneault pretty much throws Schneider under the bus and doesn't take any responsibility for his own boneheaded decision. In the post-season press conference Gilis made it pretty clear that he still plans to move Luongo.

I think both goalies dealt with this crappy situation with class throughout. It was clear they both wanted the situation over and done with, but there was hardly a complaint throughout. Management, on the other hand, has inflamed the controversy at nearly every opportunity. I think they've actually managed to undermine the self-confidence of both of their goalies, and I wouldn't be surprised if both of them have soured significantly on the Canucks organization. He's certainly managed to reduce Luongo's trade value even further.

Quite frankly, I think management has dealt with one of our all-time greatest players in a callous and high-handed way, and in the process done a disservice to Roberto, to the fans, and to the organization. They could have dealt with this situation in a way that left allot less bad blood all around.

As I watched the Canucks try to mend fences with Pavel Bure (who was similarly run out of town) this season, it occurred to me that while we were re-building one bridge, we were burning down another. I get the feeling we are going to look back on this fiasco someday in a similar light.

I wish Roberto all the best in the future. I wish the best of luck to Cory Schneider: he will need it in dealing with this franchise, its often unrealistic fan base, and its quite frankly incompetent management. Here's hoping we don't become another goalie graveyard.

I think they treated him pretty well until this off season. It would have been better for the franchise that he was moved.

I do not feel one bit sorry for Luongo. This is a business and Luongo comes out of this with over 60 million reason to feel good. He doesn't need his ego stroked.
  • 6

#6 lolwut?

lolwut?

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 622 posts
  • Joined: 29-January 13

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

nah luongo sucks


Get your head examined pls.



Nice job OP, I can't disagree with a anything you said.. Its a pretty good account of all the has transpired with our goaltenders in the last few years.. They've been dragged through the mud and they didn't need to be.


  • 3

#7 ey40

ey40

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 501 posts
  • Joined: 10-May 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:13 AM

*
POPULAR

To this date I still want to know why AV decided to start Cory:
a. when Luongo was not the main reason the Canucks were down 2-0 in the Kings series, and
b. when Luongo again was not the main reason the Canucks were down 2-0 in this year series, and Cory was not 100%.

Obviously AV treated him like trash, forgetting Luongo was the reason why he won the Jack Adams in 07.
  • 19

#8 sam13371337

sam13371337

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,807 posts
  • Joined: 01-January 11

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:22 AM

*
POPULAR

this love fest with lu is taking on cult levels....

as a canuck fan who was supporting this team before lu ever played professional hockey, and will continue to support this team long after lu retires.... I just don't get it..

In terms of heart and passion, id take mclean over lu any day. In terms of skill, id take schneids.. Lu was definitely a good goalie, but nothing that would justify this.

(it is also worth remembering, Lu played on the greatest canuck generation ever assembled, and still he couldn't win a cup and was the direct cause of many playoff exits)
  • 12
Fire MG

#9 Pears

Pears

    Canucks All-Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,910 posts
  • Joined: 14-November 11

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:25 AM

nah luongo sucks

:picard:
  • 3

In my eyes drouin is overrated he can score in the qmjhl but did nothing in last two gold medal games that canada lost. Fox will be better pro than him talk to me in five yrs

Gaudreau has one NHL goal whereas all your "prized" prospects have none.

   ryan kesler is going to the chicago blackhawks ...       quote me on it


#10 Monty

Monty

    Canucks Second-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,554 posts
  • Joined: 20-July 05

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:34 AM

*
POPULAR

No we won't, not at all.

Was he a good goaltender? Absolutely. Did he has some incredible seasons? Yup. But lets remember, he also had horrible performances as well. Not to mention the earlier years of consistently throwing his team under the bus. The "franchise" (management) also assembled a good team in front of him that let him have a sniff at winning the Stanley Cup. Oh yeah, and not to mention the $60M contract that the "franchise" gave him. He has been treated just fine.

What ended up happening was Cory Schneider. A goaltender that is 6 years younger than Luo, has a lower cap hit, and has never thrown his team under the bus. In fact, he is one of the few goaltenders in the league that breaks the traditional mold of "moody" goaltenders and seems to be well liked by both the media and his teammates.

Who would you rather have?
  • 8
Kinda hot in these rhinos.

You are a worse psychiatrist than you are a son in law, and you will never get work as an actor because you have no talent.

[http://media3.giphy....Cl8Y/giphy.gif]

#11 lolwut?

lolwut?

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 622 posts
  • Joined: 29-January 13

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:35 AM

*
POPULAR

this love fest with lu is taking on cult levels....

as a canuck fan who was supporting this team before lu ever played professional hockey, and will continue to support this team long after lu retires.... I just don't get it..

In terms of heart and passion, id take mclean over lu any day. In terms of skill, id take schneids.. Lu was definitely a good goalie, but nothing that would justify this.

(it is also worth remembering, Lu played on the greatest canuck generation ever assembled, and still he couldn't win a cup and was the direct cause of many playoff exits)


Always great to see people saying Lu couldn't win a cup without any mention of the team in front of him scoring NO goals in the finals.
You wanna hate on Lu? Go for it.. But your post makes you sound like you're just bitter and emotional.
  • 6

#12 Fanuck

Fanuck

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,676 posts
  • Joined: 09-September 04

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:36 AM

*
POPULAR

When I think of the Luongo situation in Vancouver, I always come back to one thing - I look at arguably the most successful franchise in modern hockey history (at least in my generation of hockey) - the Red Wings - and I think of how they treat their players, ALL of their players, not just the supposed 'franchise' players or the 'starts'. I never remember hearing about the Red Wings ever treating their players poorly or unfairly - granted I don't know their franchise as well as some, but you simply never hear of the Red Wings doing anything except treating their players with respect and class.

A long time ago GMMG was quoted as saying he wanted to build the Canucks into the type of franchise that would attract elite players and UFA's simply by reputation of how their players are treated. As far as I can judge, he's doing the exact opposite. What UFA is going to want to come here now after this schmozzle?
  • 13

#13 smithers joe

smithers joe

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,963 posts
  • Joined: 02-September 09

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:40 AM

the fans and the media are the ones who treated lu with disrespect, the same way they treat everyone in the organization when they feel let down somewhat. everyone here deserves our respect...it doesn't mean they can't be traded or fired but they pour more energy and effort into their jobs than any of us have ever invested in anything we've done....
  • 4

#14 sting

sting

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 813 posts
  • Joined: 09-November 11

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:45 AM

Not a big fan of how this went down.

That said.... Bledsoe-Brady, Montana-S.Young, Vanbiesbrouck- Richter, Irbe-Ward, Bryzgalov-Hiller, Fuhr-Ranford are just a few examples of organizations ensuring continued success by going with younger players who have many years left in their primes versus the alternative.

  • 4

#15 Average Joe

Average Joe

    Comets Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 396 posts
  • Joined: 22-April 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:47 AM

Yup remember when Kirk mclean left. We haven't made it back to the cup final until Lu gets us there. Now if he left, it will be the dark ages of Canucks franchise. Cory will be the next Dan Cloutier.....I guarantee it.
  • 3
You want the truth, you can't handle the truth! But I can.

#16 JensenFan2011

JensenFan2011

    Canucks Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,394 posts
  • Joined: 21-September 10

Posted 10 May 2013 - 08:55 AM

nah luongo sucks


lol it was a joke people
  • 0

#17 Zamboni_14

Zamboni_14

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,550 posts
  • Joined: 20-January 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:05 AM

Yup remember when Kirk mclean left. We haven't made it back to the cup final until Lu gets us there. Now if he left, it will be the dark ages of Canucks franchise. Cory will be the next Dan Cloutier.....I guarantee it.


I'm not going to say I agree 100% with this... but I also won't say this isn't a possibility either. I know people are saying how Cory will be "the one" and how great he is, but the one thing that keeps coming to mind is that he STILL hasn't had the pressure of being the "starter" for a whole season nor the "go to" guy in the playoffs. Goalies are weird in the way that they can look like the next coming of Roy, Brodeur, etc. while they are splitting time (or as a back-up) but then suddenly when given "the shot" at being the starter.. they fall flat on their face (see Manny Fernandez as a great example of this.) But that is the gamble a team takes. If Cory does fail, I have a feeling a lot of people are going to look back and think; "what were they thinking!?" But if he doesn't, the thinking could be; "what took them so long!?"

Time will tell how this will play out
  • 1

#18 Bigturk8

Bigturk8

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 599 posts
  • Joined: 08-June 11

Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:23 AM

I think they treated him pretty well until this off season. It would have been better for the franchise that he was moved.

I do not feel one bit sorry for Luongo. This is a business and Luongo comes out of this with over 60 million reason to feel good. He doesn't need his ego stroked.


I totally agree with this. He was outplayed so he rode the pine, there is no reason to treat him differently than any other goalie. He would be a starter on most other teams and could arguably be the starter on this team, but that doesn't mean we should trade him for scraps because he wants to play.The franchise is here to make money. They make way more money if they win cups. They will not intentionally hinder an opportunity to win the cup to do the guy a favor. This is the business that Lu is in. Judging by his interviews, he seems to understand this and accepts it stoically.I like Lu and I think he's a great goalie and he deserves a cup, but he's not bigger than the team. He's a big boy, his feelings won't be hurt. It may be frustrating, but that's part of the career that he chose.

Edited by Bigturk8, 10 May 2013 - 09:23 AM.

  • 2
Posted Image

#16 is skeptical about the validity of your post...

#19 fwybwed

fwybwed

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,944 posts
  • Joined: 13-January 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:26 AM

this love fest with lu is taking on cult levels....

as a canuck fan who was supporting this team before lu ever played professional hockey, and will continue to support  this team long after lu retires....  I just don't get it..

In terms of heart and passion, id take mclean over lu any day.  In terms of skill, id take schneids..  Lu was definitely a good goalie, but nothing that would justify this.

(it is also worth remembering, Lu played on the greatest canuck generation ever assembled, and still he couldn't win a cup and was the direct cause of many playoff exits)


Ok....take McLean now....over Luo....McLean could not dare mach that of the goalies today...especially with the skill of players like Ovi, malkin, Stamkos, Stlouis. If you watched preLuo era then you would know that Luongo was the best goalie so far that took us to the final IN A LONG TIME~! Both goalies took us to the final...with heart and passion. It could be nothing else different except those who were on the ice that day. Shnides had 2 chances and he blew both of them and put us out of the play offs....lol BUT when you cannot see the value of a goalie like Luongo then you are not a fan but a favouritist...and trying to run against the grain of those who suppport him. Be different, be cool but be honest to yourself in respect to who was better. Or else you just look like a old school fan boy.Maybe you saying you would take McLean is bit of a cult action on your behalf as you are still living in it....just sayin
  • 1

#20 fwybwed

fwybwed

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,944 posts
  • Joined: 13-January 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 09:28 AM

lol it was a joke people


But you didn't put "jk" at the end of it so no it wasnt lol jk!
  • 0

#21 BigRedMachine

BigRedMachine

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Joined: 14-April 06

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:01 AM

Who would you rather have?


That's not the question. The question is why this franchise couldn't have treated both goaltenders better throughout this whole situation, which was entirely of their own making.
  • 0

#22 higgyfan

higgyfan

    Canucks Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,505 posts
  • Joined: 15-July 12

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:01 AM

Yup remember when Kirk mclean left. We haven't made it back to the cup final until Lu gets us there. Now if he left, it will be the dark ages of Canucks franchise. Cory will be the next Dan Cloutier.....I guarantee it.


CDC: The home of clairvoyants. :towel:

I don't think Lu has been treated badly by the organization. His contract does 'suck' as it makes it very hard to trade him. But hey, 60M is a pretty good consolation prize. I suspect that Lu has wanted to leave for quite some time now, as his family lives on the other side of the continent. He wants and needs to be closer to home.
  • 0

#23 TOMapleLaughs

TOMapleLaughs

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 31,517 posts
  • Joined: 19-September 05

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

Keep in mind, he wants out. Or at least that's what we're being told.
  • 0
Posted Image

#24 BigRedMachine

BigRedMachine

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Joined: 14-April 06

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:05 AM

Bear in mind this thread is not about whether the Canucks should go with Schneider or Luongo. It is about how they handled the situation once they made that decision.
  • 1

#25 BigRedMachine

BigRedMachine

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Joined: 14-April 06

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:06 AM

Keep in mind, he wants out. Or at least that's what we're being told.


At this point, I'm sure he does.

It was the same with Bure. Once management screwed him around for long enough, he was ready to leave.
  • 1

#26 sarcastro

sarcastro

    Comets Prospect

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 138 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 03

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:07 AM

I already regret it.
  • 0

#27 Sanford

Sanford

    Canucks First-Line

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,422 posts
  • Joined: 23-December 07

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:08 AM

I'm sure we treated Luongo really bad when we gave him that multi million dollar contract... OHHH poor Luongo... MY CONTRACT SUCKS, if it sucks make it void... but I know he won't.
  • 0
Posted Image

#28 Jester13

Jester13

    Canucks Rookie

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,680 posts
  • Joined: 30-August 09

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

Schneids has outplayed Lou, is younger, lower cap hit, higher skill level at this point in their careers, and Lou--whether you want to believe it or not--has shown over and over again that he is not up to the task when it matters...

GMMG has made all the right moves with respect to trading Lou, yet here we are with our 20/20 hindsight saying how he has mishandled the entire thing. SMH.
  • 1

#29 TOMapleLaughs

TOMapleLaughs

    Canucks Hall-of-Famer

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 31,517 posts
  • Joined: 19-September 05

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

The Luongo situation is nothing like the Bure situation. The Naslund situation is a closer comparison, but really, we've never had a Luongo situation before, on account of our goaltending depth always sucking before Luongo/Schneider.
  • 0
Posted Image

#30 BigRedMachine

BigRedMachine

    Comets Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Joined: 14-April 06

Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:11 AM

A long time ago GMMG was quoted as saying he wanted to build the Canucks into the type of franchise that would attract elite players and UFA's simply by reputation of how their players are treated. As far as I can judge, he's doing the exact opposite. What UFA is going to want to come here now after this schmozzle?


As we saw at the trade deadline, there are players who quite specifically do NOT want to come here.
  • 0




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Canucks.com is the official Web site of The Vancouver Canucks. The Vancouver Canucks and Canucks.com are trademarks of The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership.  NHL and the word mark and image of the Stanley Cup are registered trademarks and the NHL Shield and NHL Conference logos are trademarks of the National Hockey League. All NHL logos and marks and NHL team logos and marks as well as all other proprietary materials depicted herein are the property of the NHL and the respective NHL teams and may not be reproduced without the prior written consent of NHL Enterprises, L.P.  Copyright © 2009 The Vancouver Canucks Limited Partnership and the National Hockey League.  All Rights Reserved.