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#1 Lui's Knob

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

Are there any UFA players we can pry from the euro and KHL leagues ??? Baranka or koltsov? Anyone??
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:25 PM

Shirokov!

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No, but if we can get a big defensive specialist, a D-man to quarterback the powerplay, or a skilled passer for the powerplay, they should definitely look into it.
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 05:15 PM

Sergei Mozyakin? Dominik Granak? Patrick Thoresen?

Edit: I doubt we could get any of these players to play for us but it'd be cool if they did.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 05:22 PM

Koltsov is still fairly young, is a very talented and gifted offensive defenseman. He has played a couple of seasons in North America and could possibly replace what we lost when Erhoff left.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 05:30 PM

Morozov ?
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 05:34 PM

cervenka didn't work for the flames, but i would be willing to but not too expensive. 2m at the most
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 06:00 PM

How about looking for guys in the WHL?
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Posted 25 May 2013 - 08:49 PM

Koltsov is still fairly young, is a very talented and gifted offensive defenseman. He has played a couple of seasons in North America and could possibly replace what we lost when Erhoff left.

He's 30, I think it's too late for him. It wouldn't be worth it for him nor the Canucks to even consider it at this point.


Though, there are some solid players out there in Europe that could be had. Antti Raanta would be a great option for the farm and within a couple years, be a regular backup. Though, from what rumours are saying, he's been talking a lot with Columbus.

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Posted 25 May 2013 - 11:04 PM

Who is the scout for these markets?
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 12:41 AM

Who is the scout for these markets?


Thomas Gradin, I believe.
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:04 AM

Tommi Santala?
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:10 AM

Tommi Santala?


I guess you're probably joking but he's quite the fan favorite over here :D

I'd try some undrafted players. What do you guys think of Denis Hollenstein? I thought he played well for Switzerland
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:49 AM

Sign Jannik Hansens
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:26 AM

There's got to be some hidden gems over there, just have to look hard!
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:29 AM

I guess you're probably joking but he's quite the fan favorite over here :D

I'd try some undrafted players. What do you guys think of Denis Hollenstein? I thought he played well for Switzerland


Denis is a quality player, just like his dad. The one guy that impressed me though (from nowhere) in the IIHF's was Reto Suri.

Suri had 5 goals and 3 assists in 10 games for Switzerland and also plays for EV Zug, same club as another undrafted gem named Damien Brunner. Plus he's the same age as Tanev!


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Another NLA player somebody needs to sign is Lukas Flüeler. The goaltender almost singlehandedly won the playoffs with his amazing play in net for the ZSC 2012 championship run and pushed the Lions into the playoffs again this season.

He would make a great young back-up to Schneids (or Lu) and would definately give Lack a run for his money.

Edited by Visp, 26 May 2013 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 01:55 PM

Staffan Kronwall, big Swedish shutdown Dman. He was captain for team Sweden
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

The Swiss have some quality players judging by the IIHF World Championship.



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Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:31 PM

I always wondered how Chubarov was doing. Used to love his line with Cooke and Letowski
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 04:37 PM

I'd love to see the Canucks run some kind of summer camp where they invited some of the youngest European free agents. Try to bring over enough players that they could not only do testing and scrimmages but possibly run some intersquad "games" to really get an idea of the players' capabilities. Not sure about the rules for non-NA free agents but I don't imagine they'd have issues with providing some incentives for players who aren't currently under contract in any league (on either side of the pond). Hopefully, they'd be able to offer them free flights and accommodations without getting on the wrong side of the CBA and various interleague agreements. Whatever the case, it would be great to see management get more proactive and creative regarding overseas resources.

If confined by various rulings (NHL CBA and international agreements), at least try to make contact with some of these players (while they are free agents) and offer invites and PTOs for the next training camp.

Elite Prospects (http://www.eliteprospects.com/) currently has a searchable index for the free agents from all the professional and semi-pro leagues (on the left side of their main page: "Free Agent Frenzy").

There are quite a few interesting players available (I might update this post with a list).

One player that I've been really interested in lately is Alexander Osipov (see: http://www.elitepros...hp?player=60812).

He's a 24-year-old Russian defenseman who's played all his hockey in Russia (including the last 3 1/2 seasons in the KHL). He went undrafted (NHL) and he hasn't really been on anyone's radar.

He has NHL-grade size at 6'2" and 225 lbs.

Last year, he led all the KHL for most of the season in goal-scoring by defensemen. He finished 2nd overall, for defensemen, with 13 goals in a combined 51 games (with three teams). Was the KHL player of the week for October 29th, 2012 (scored 3 goals, +2, in two games). At that point in the season, Osipov was running away with the defenseman scoring race, having tallied 10 goals in only 24 games. However, his production would soon stall, but arguably not really because of any fault of the player. Here's a breakdown of what happened:

The troubles began shortly after Osipov's praises were so highly sung in this neck of the woods. In mid-December, Amur fired head coach Hannu Jortikka, replacing him with assistant Alexander Blinov. This was almost certainly a mistake, given Jortiakka's previous exploits with the team; at least, the Amur fans thought so, and they've said so vociferously too. The new regime, combined with Amur's fading playoff hopes, led to a massive shipping out of talent in early January, and that was when Osipov's journey began.

Osipov's first port of call upon departing Khabarovsk was Ak Bars Kazan, where he was sent in exchange for cash. It's unlikely that Ak Bars ever intended to keep him; whatever the case, he was sent away again two days later before playing a single game for his new team. This leg of the journey saw him on his way to Atlant Moscow Oblast, with forward Nikolai Zherdev going the other way. At the time, it appeared unlikely that Atlant would make the playoffs, and the move was viewed as part of a rebuilding process for the team. However, with Osipov in the lineup, Atlant promptly went supernova. While they're still probably going to miss the playoffs, management obviously decided that they'd take the risk of strengthening the team for the present and going for it. Ironically, this meant that Osipov was on his way once more, after only 6 games as an Atlant player.


http://chunkletskhl....amblin-man.html

Basically, after a very promising start to the season, Osipov was shipped from one end of the continent to the other and he was mismanaged and misused during that time.

Alexander Osipov is still a fine defensive prospect, and should be able to look forward to a long career in the KHL, with North America a possibility as well (he went undrafted by the NHL, so he'd be a free agent if he ever wanted to come over). His recent drop in scoring can likely be attributed first to Amur's calamitous coaching change, and then to the fact that he's gone, quite literally, from one end of Russia to the other in the space of three weeks, making two stops along the way. At least he's going to get to play in the playoffs after all that, and for a team with real Gagarin Cup hopes as well!


http://chunkletskhl....amblin-man.html

Remarkably, after all the turmoil of the second leg of his season, Osipov still put-in a strong playoffs, going 1G, 3A, and an impressive +10 in 10 games of postseason action.

He's young (24), has size (6'2", 225), is a free agent both in NA (NHL UFA) and in Europe (no team holds his rights). He's also a righthand shot and apparently has quite the cannon from the point (10 goals in 24 games; 12 goals in the 34 games before he was traded; plus the "Cy Young" type of scoring line with more goals than assists in nearly every stop he's made during his career).

I'd love to see the Canucks give this player a good long look. After what he's experienced recently in the KHL, a chance to play NHL hockey (and the first class travel, accommodations, and overall treatment this entails) might be more attractive than it's ever been (and might ever be again) for Osipov.

A PTO and an invite would seem no brainers, if he'd make the trip. Some scouting and a possible contract offer might also be a worth taking a chance on (even before he's set foot on North American ice).

Edited by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME, 26 May 2013 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:07 PM

I always wondered how Chubarov was doing. Used to love his line with Cooke and Letowski

They do. Look at Damien Brunner, hope MG scouts them out
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:10 PM

Daniel and Lucas Hansen, Jannik Hansen's Sons.

They are twins! Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:13 PM

Daniel and Lucas Hansen, Jannik Hansen's Sons.

They are twins! Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Hansen-Hansen-Hansen

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We will have to wait like 20 years before their old enough to play
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Posted 26 May 2013 - 08:25 PM

So, in addition to my earlier post on Alexander Osipov (http://forum.canucks.../#entry11415180), here are some of the European free agents that have caught my interest (in order of the league played in during 2012-13, not ranked):

1. Juhamatti Aaltonen (Elitserien): http://www.elitepros...php?player=3200

A creative and offensive forward with good hands and puck control. Understands the game well and is a realiable point scorer. Aaltonen is also a physical player.


27-year-old Finnish right winger. 6'0", 196 lbs. RH shot. During the 2012-13 KHL season, over 42 GP, scored 12 goals and 19 assists for 31 points. Previous two KHL seasons, he's broken 20 goals each year and the season before that he scored 28 in the SM-liiga (around 50 GP each season for both leagues). Drafted by St. Louis in 2003 and their rights have expired. NHL UFA and a free agent in Europe.

2. Marko Antilla (SM-liiga): http://www.elitepros...php?player=4283

A tall and strong forward, Anttila has learned to use his size to his advantage. He protects the puck well and is able to make room for himself. Anttila is also a good skater for a player of his stature - he has decent speed and is hard to steal the puck from. Anttila possesses a hard wrist-shot, though his release can be slow and he occasionally struggles with accuracy. He has good physique but tends to struggle finishing long shifts, which can be costly due to turnovers and weak backchecking. Anttila is good in the defensive zone and can take passing lanes away by using his long stick, and can be used on powerplay as well as penalty-kill.


28-year-old Finnish right winger. Massive size at 6'7" and 231 lbs. RH shot. In 2012-13, over 60 GP, he scored 17 goals and 24 assists for TPS of the SM-liiga. His totals have improved year-by-year as he's developed in Finland's top professional league (and power forwards generally take time). Has improved his skating and defense as well. Drafted by Chicago in 2004 and those rights have expired. NHL UFA and a free agent in Europe.

3. Jesse Joensuu (SM-liiga and NHL): http://www.elitepros...php?player=4218

A large forward with a lot of potential. Has all the qualities to become a very good player. Could improve his skating and puck control. Has good balance. Useful in front of the opposite goal.


25-year-old Finnish left winger. Good size at 6'4" and 209 lbs. Lefthand shot. In the 2012-13 season, he played 24 games for Assat of the SM-liiga, scoring 25 points (11 goals and 14 assists). Also played 7 regular season games and one playoff game for the New York Islanders (2 assists). Played 3 seasons for the NYI's AHL affiliate in Bridgeport (2008-09: 39 points in 71 games; 2009-10: 48 points in 70 games; 2010-11: 24 points in 35 games). Best NHL season was 42 games in 2010-11 where he scored 6 goals and 3 assists playing very limited minutes and behind numerous other young players. Was a 2006 2nd round pick (#60 overall) by the Islanders and those rights have expired. He's an NHL UFA and a free agent in Europe.

HF Talent Analysis:

Joensuu first emerged as a big forward capable of playing strong in the corners and eager to lead the offense in all of its aspects - an aspiring franchise player, so to speak. He is still looking able to do all that, but the overall level isn't looking quite that good. Joensuu has sharpness in his turns and skating but lacks quick acceleration. He still hasn't accustomed to his tall body, which also hurts him in battles for the puck. He tries difficult dekes with a good success rate and can make plays in short spaces, but his wrist shot is very slow and awkward. The trouble with finishing has hurt his offense overall. Joensuu has an athelete's mindset and is likely capable to develop NHL scoring line talent over time.

http://www.hockeysfu.../jesse_joensuu/

4. Renat Mamashev (KHL): http://www.elitepros...hp?player=13644

30-year-old Russian defenseman. 6'1" and 190 lbs. Lefthand shot. One of the top scorers available amongst KHL free agents. in 2012-13, this apparent late bloomer broke-out for 42 points in 52 games played (10 goals and 32 assists), obliterating his previous career highs. Had put-up respectable (but nothing special) numbers in previous KHL seasons for a defenseman. Half his points came during the 1st part of the season when he enjoyed the benefit of playing with Yakupov but he still managed to put-up respectable numbers during the back half of the season and without Yak (after the NHL lockout ended). Has scored most of his career points on the powerplay.

Here's an article on Mamashev's breakout (and the Yakupov effect): http://chunkletskhl....breaks-out.html

5. Jarkko Immonen (KHL): http://www.elitepros...php?player=3181

A right-handed center who understands the game well. A good passer with a good shot. Always works hard and has a good work ethic. Used to have problems with his skating but has developed in recent years.


31-year-old Finnish centreman. Solidly built at 6'0" and 212 lbs. Righthand shot. Has been a consistent 30-40 points player for 4 seasons in the KHL and tore-up the SM-liiga previously. Excellent scoring rate during international play (9 goals in 9 games during the 2010-11 WC for Team Finland, overall a point per game rate at both the U-20 and U-18 WJCs, 0.79 PPG at WC, 0.79 in international junior, and 0.68 in other international games). Drafted by Toronto in 2002 and moved to the Rangers (those rights have expired now). Put-up great numbers for New York's AHL affiliate in Hartford, scoring nearly a point per game in both 2005-06 (70 points in 74 games) and 2006-07 (46 points in 54 games). Couldn't translate that into any sustained NHL success (8 points in 20 games of limited minutes) back in 2005 through 2007 (although hardly terrible numbers at 0.40 points per game). He's an NHL UFA and a free agent in Europe.

HF "Talent Analysis" and "Future" (from a while back):

An excellent face-off man, Immonen is very creative player, with slow feet. Although he at times plays on an elite level, and reads the game very well on both offensive and defensive sides of the puck, at other times, his lackluster skating and inconsistent play hold him back.

Immonen has the ability to become a second line center, but he must improve his skating and consistency in his own zone. It is unlikely that Immonen will get a long-term NHL shot with the Rangers. Should he not be part of a trade to another organization, Immonen is likely to return to Europe.

http://www.hockeysfu...jarkko_immonen/

Was last rated a 7.0 B on the Hockey's Future ranking system.

6. Martin Ruzicka (Czech Extraliga): http://www.elitepros...hp?player=23860

(My translation from Swedish)

Slick winger and pure offensive player. Good skater with a very good shot. Goalscorer's instincts. Lacking in physical play.


27-year-old Czech right winger. A little undersized at 5'11" and 174 lbs. Righthanded shot. Top scorer among the Extraliga free agents (similar points per game to what Jagr put-up during the lockout) and, in fact, he was the winner of the 2012-13 Czech scoring title. In the 2012-13 season, Ruzicka put-up an impressive 40 goals and 43 assists in 52 games with HC Trinec (1.60 points per game). In previous years, he's been more of a point per game player (with about half his points coming from goals). Like the scouting report says, he's pure offense... not that that's a bad thing.

7. Marcel Hascak (Slovak Extraliga): http://www.elitepros...hp?player=17887

26-year-old Slovak right winger. 6'0" and 192 lbs. Righthand shot. Another player coming off a breakout season. 31 goals and 33 assists over 51 games played (1.25 points per game). 4th leading scorer in the Slovak Extraliga and one of the league's top free agents for 2013. Solid production in previous seasons (hit 17 goals three times). Undrafted. NHL UFA and a free agent in Europe.

Edited by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME, 26 May 2013 - 10:40 PM.

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