Mr.53 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I personally don't understand why everyone wants Edler gone so badly. I understand he did disappoint this year, but so did nearly everyone else. Sedins, Higgins, Lappy, KASSIAN, etc. I actually don't think he was as awful as everyone thinks. Besides, next year Edler will bounce back and be a huge asset. He also already took a paycut because he wants to be here, and next year he's going to be hungry to prove himself. We've seen Edler when he's on his game and he is a monster. 6'3, 215 pounds, he can put up 40 points a season if not more and we have him locked in for 6 years. He will be a huge asset. I also think our d group is pretty solid. Hamhuis Bieksa Edler Tanev Garrison Corrado I think this is a pretty good defensive lineup. Each line has at least one impactful shooter but is still reliable defensively. With Tanev Edler should do pretty well. He can also be good on the pp if we pair him up with Garrison. There is really no need to trade him and poke a pretty significant hole in our d when we still have pretty non-useful players who should go. Such as ballard, schroeder, luongo, etc. I say unless we are getting HUGE return with Edler, trading him will be a catastrophic mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawberries Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 He's one of the big pieces we can move for quality assets . We don't have much on this team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I don't want him traded at all, but it's not surprising to see the Canucks fan base turn on him. 1) Fans are desperate for change 2) He struggled this year 3) He's the only contract people think that can be moved 4) He has value, a whole lot of it. 5) He has a fairly big contract. I only don't understand why people think, he's going to be a throw in or traded away for nothing. He gets a lot of undeserved heat, but what do you expect. We are known as a terrible fan base for a reason. Who gives up on a 27 year defense man, with his skill set. He's still better than most of the guys in the league despite his struggles last year. If the Canucks don't want him, teams will be lining up and if he falls into a team that deals with Edler properly, unlike the Canucks. Then, it's going to bite us in the ass. I've been saying forever. Get a true puck moving defense man, and not only does it fix the Twins ability to move quicker up the ice. Edler gets back to playing his game. Stupid team has him playing as a puck moving for the past few years because they were too cheap to re-sign Ehrhoff and expected Edler to replace Ehrhoff's point production. The new coach will probably help Edler's game unless it's the management being dumb and telling the coaching staff to use Edler as a puck mover defense man, like they have. Edler is better off going to Detroit, where he can developed properly and turn into the defense man everyone thought he'd be. This allows the Bieksa fan boys to have a reason to keep Bieksa. Aside from Beiksa, the Defense on the team is soft like butter. Teams love playing against the Canucks cause it doesn't hurt to fore check or go into the zone. One of the many reasons, team has failed to have playoff success. Edler's the only one that can throw a hit to someone that is 6'3+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 It's not that we want him gone, he's the only valuable asset without a NTC, if we want to improve sometimes you need to sacrifice a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanKeslord17 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 No, don't keep an asset that is valuable... We need to trade it for help up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 If Edler can be packaged for either a prospect player or pick that gets us into the top 5 or a solid prospect and a top 15 overall pick this year as well I am sorry but the Canucks would be crazy to not trade him. A 40 point D-Man or a 50-70 point forward or center...your call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 He's one of the big pieces we can move for quality assets . We don't have much on this team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley2051 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 This, plus we'd lose a ton of cap with him gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 On top of him being one of very few tradable assets with value, he just has not lived up to his potential. I don't really think he will, or he would have by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Doctor Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'd like to keep him but if we can get a good return then do it do it do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'd like to keep him but if we can get a good return then do it do it do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Problem is he had a bad year, and 2 bad playoffs in a row. He'll be 28 at the end of next season, so if he has another bad year, we are stuck with an NTC and 5 another five years at 6M. He will lose all his value and he will have an NTC. Basically that will be the Luongo Saga version 2.0. He will have some value but with his contract and NTC will be unmovable. Now he still has almost full value because there is still hope and other team will take a chance and could give up something substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'd like to keep him but if we can get a good return then do it do it do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 plus we need to take into consideration that his hit on Staal might affect him. Might lose that physical presence, one of the last thing he has left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'd say the same for Kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Bieksa 31 and prone to getting hurt Hamhuis 30 and not bulletproof Ballard 30 and hardly in the lineup Garrison 28 and relatively untested Edler 27 and not bulletproof Tanev 23 and not bulletproof Corrado 20 Edler is the only all-star in this bunch. But he's not a clear #1 either. If we trade him, we're in trouble, short-term, and we're adding to the pile of developmental and failures. I think he and the rest of these guys perform better with more help up front. Trick is getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkeeterHansen Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 It's not that we want him gone, he's the only valuable asset without a NTC, if we want to improve sometimes you need to sacrifice a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 I'd still give him a shot. Look at KB3, everyone wanted him gone a few years ago, and then he had a comeback year. Yes he's valuable, but so are the Sedins, Kesler, and Schneider, so that's a rather dumb argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Doesn't he have an NTC that kicks in July 1? Or am I losing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Defensively he's barely an NHL player and has always sucked in his own end. We have too much money wrapped up in defence and an inability to change the line-up moving forward. Putting up 40 points while playing top minutes and PP time and having zero defensive responsiblity with the Sedins is not overly impressive. Not sure why so many people overlook the defensive aspect of the defence postion. Below my comphrehension since the word defence is in defenceman but whatever. Keeping him into his NTC determines that this defence core will be one of the most expensive yet one of the most horrible defenensively in the entire league for years to come. Just doesn't make sense. You can hide one defensively poor player in your top 6, but not two. Either you have to trade Edler or Bieksa IMO. You can't have 2 of your top 4 not having a clue what's going on when they are on the ice. Problem is he had a bad year, and 2 bad playoffs in a row. He'll be 28 at the end of next season, so if he has another bad year, we are stuck with an NTC and 5 another five years at 6M. He will lose all his value and he will have an NTC. Basically that will be the Luongo Saga version 2.0. He will have some value but with his contract and NTC will be unmovable. Now he still has almost full value because there is still hope and other team will take a chance and could give up something substantial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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